Anjohan

I can’t wait to see Lil’ Ani in 3D!!!

TV’s Frink said:

Anjohan said:

boring main characters

¯\ _(ツ)_/¯

I just didn’t find Finn FindMyIphone, Rey the Grey and Pope Damyian to be interesting new additions.

Rey is Luke V2; from a desert planet with unclear family relations, Finn is boring and used for comic, and Poe is not in it much and frankly could be dead.

SNOKE is imposing, but we’ve already seen the Mastermind in a hologram thing before in EP 5.

HAN SOLO is cool because of the OT, and have some funny lines.

MAZ KANATA is orange “dont-underestimate-my-size” Yoda.

KYLO REY is new and cool.

I find it funny, that out of all the OT practical effects in Jabba’s palace, I find Jabba the most convincing and every single other Rubber-mask alien completely unbelievable, whilst in A New Hope I don’t.

I’ve come to the conclusion that this might be due to a bigger focus on “bigger, better, more” in RotJ, whilst in ANH it was the little things that mattered.

Any thoughts on this? Is it just me? Am I alone?

Diego said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Well, as you will later see in his abysmal dealings with Jabba the Hutt, Luke has some kind of inferiority complex that forces him to kill as many people as humanly possible.  I mean, sure, some Imperial forces might die if the AT-AT tips over due to a damaged leg, but if you really want to rack up a good kill count, blowing up the cockpit with an explosive is the safer way to go!

Speaking of which, what the hell was Luke’s plan for rescuing Han? As much as I love ROTJ, I’ve never been able to make any sense of the plan.

Good question. I don’t think there ever was much of a plan - just all about getting inside the fort, and take it from there. Worked out well, tho’. One would almost think it was in the script for them to succeed.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Anjohan said:

With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story.

I guess she might’ve, sure.

I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

Ehhh…

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

1. No.
2. That’s not even a one-liner. It really doesn’t even make sense.

I don’t give a shit what you think ❤️ From my point of view your behavior is evil! Lil’ Ani would flesh you with his exhaustion vents.

With all due respect to her memory, I think Carrie would appreciate her character getting the end that fit the story. If in IX, Leia was supposed to be murdered or betrayed, I can’t see how she wouldn’t have had wanted that still.

But I don’t think this was ever the direction they were heading. I think Leia’s role was to bring back Kylo to the light, in a very conflicting and heartbreaking moment most certainly saved for EP IX.

I think Han was the sacrifice for EP 7. Luke the sacrifice for EP 8. And Leia the one to survive, bring balance, and restore the Jedi Order Luke never dared to try restore again.

I can imagine this scene in my head, in which Luke is dead and Rey defeated - Snoke believing all Jedi now to be extinct, with Rey and Kylo - having tried to overthrow Snoke - both laying wounded on the floor infront of him. And then, in a “what the fuck are you doing here?” reaction from Snoke as Leia suddenly walks into the room from out of nowhere, Leia suddenly wreaks mental force havoc on Snoke, killing him in the most brutal force usage scene we have ever seen on screen, crushing and slamming him from wall to wall until every bone is broken in his twisted, pale body, only for Leia to give the biggest one-liner ever: “I’m not afraid of the Dark Side, Lord Snoke - I relish it in the favor of my son”, crushing Snoke’s head right off with the very swift movement of the Force from her hands, leaving his wretched body more pale and lifeless than ever on the dusty floor.

Now that, would be the way to end Leia’s arc.

I have a bad feeling about this.

Judge me by my size, do you?

Lord Haseo said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Lord Haseo said:

Cliegg Lars dying from broken hearts.

What?

Now this is just plain stupid. Did Lucas intend for “broken heart” to be some kind of people’s disease for the saga? How disappointing.

TV’s Frink said:

Anjohan said:

Do they not deserve the chance to walk down memory lane with stories and references from their favorite moments?

They do, and they can do it by watching the prequels.

Valid point. But couldn’t the same be said for the OT then?

If Disney made the new trilogy in PT era and fans criticized; would the answer “you can watch the OT” be a satisfactory one for you as a lifelong fan?

ray_afraid said:

Anjohan said:

ray_afraid said:

Anjohan said:

the prequels, do they really deserve to be forgotten acts of the past?

Yes.

But can you say the same about this statement: the fact that there are kids out there who - for them - the Prequels are just as important for them as the OT may be for you. Do they not deserve the chance to walk down memory lane with stories and references from their favorite moments?

Sure they do. But the movies have no real cultural or historical impact. If you like em cause ya grew up with em, that’s fine. Reminiscing on things we loved as kids can be fun. But the PT did nothing to earn a positive place in the collective conscious.
They really are just some dumb movies.

But is this a fact, or is this just a popular opinion?

Because you see, according to moviemakers and American moviemaking businesses, the prequels are in fact historically and culturally important, as they broke new ground for visual effects and and digital moviemaking.

So actually what you are saying is incorrect, but your opinion is commonly shared. So you are basing your reasons on what you deem factually correct, when in fact - it should be known - that it is just an opinion. By no factual means are they not historically or culturally important.

ray_afraid said:

Anjohan said:

the prequels, do they really deserve to be forgotten acts of the past?

Yes.

But can you say the same about this statement: the fact that there are kids out there who - for them - the Prequels are just as important for them as the OT may be for you. Do they not deserve the chance to walk down memory lane with stories and references from their favorite moments?

Haha, I was actually hoping on more of a discussion on this subject, rather than simple lines or words of utter hate (haha), so stating why you think so, would be highly appreciated for the reading pleasures of others.

Please state your opinions - in favor and not in favor, and why they should or should not.

As splitting between fans as the prequels were, do they really deserve to be forgotten acts of the past?

Although lacking in everything from memorable, impactful characters and story to practicality, there were elements and designs and originality, that here and there this new franchise is certainly lacking. Not to mention, they are part of George Lucas’s vision for the franchise as a whole, and one does not spit on the creation of the man behind it all.

I, for once, grew up with watching the OT and Prequels simultaneously for the first time in 1997 through 2005, as a little kid and into puberty.

Nostalgia is a part of all our lifes; and it might be time to put our egos and judgements to the side, and accept the fact that there are kids out there who - for them - the Prequels are just as important for them as the OT may be for you. Do they not deserve the chance to walk down memory lane with stories and references from their favorite moments? Stories, that through the developing eyes of others, could bring us all closure and satisfaction from all times and periods of the Star Wars franchise?

After all, let’s not forget that in the end we are all just Star Wars fans by heart.

What do you think?

I don’t see the point in re-relasing the prequels in 4K. Their special effects are so dated, it would look like a cartoon with real people.

I don’t want to dislike this movie, but I just can’t get past its complete lack of originality and boring main characters - not in the way that I don’t like them as people, they’re just not very engaging.

I’ve seen TFA four times now, and it bores me more and more from the middle act and out every time I watch it.

I do hope that THE LAST JEDI tries something new - like, uhm, NEW FUCKING IDEAS, and some new technology and unfamiliar planet designs, and I might actually feel good about the future of this franchise.

I do hate to be one of those unsatisfied Star Wars fans, but when I get a film that gives me nothing new, retreads the same plot as the OT, and I don’t even wheep at Han Solo’s climatic death, the movie did something terribly wrong. And for that, it’s an unforgiven installment, and a rip-off.

1. STAR WARS - A NEW HOPE
2. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
3. THE PHANTOM MENACE
4. RETURN OF THE JEDI
5. THE FORCE AWAKENS
   6: ROGUE ONE
6. REVENGE OF THE SITH
7. ATTACK OF THE CLONES

I’m excited to see how you tackle Han & Luke kissing and the replacing of Ewoks for Wookies.

I agree. 😃

Seemingly I haven’t made myself clear and failed to say that; this is a WORK-IN-PROGRESS. I’m very much open to feedback and ideas. 😃

You can go over to fanedit.org for full overview of the project, although I’ll happily answer any questions regarding the project right here.

In the works for over two years now at Fanedit.org, i present Episode I; The Ancient Lore.

Episode I is the best-looking of the three prequels, with a lot of devotion put into them from both the crew, actors as well as the director himself before he went all ludacris on Digital Moviemaking. It is also the most dull of the three prequels, with little to no character motivation or even plot explanation. It had to be remade.

The Ancient Lore’s narrative does not resemble anything close to what you have seen before. It is completely new, and with that a completely new beginning.

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/////// VIDEO PREVIEWS /////////////////
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THE ANCIENT LORE’S TRAILER : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7pa7CNSIMI

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BRAND NEW 7-MINUTE PREVIEW CLIPS : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7wznxvDVI

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/////// CHANGES & ALTERATIONS:: ////////
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• There are many new visual effects, and many alterations to both audio (voice and alien language) as well as music and sound effects.
• Appearances of Lord Sidious will have his hologram face hidden for start of the movie to create mystery. Voice altered when in hologram form, and new plot points given.
• The Nemodians (Nute Gunray & Co.) now speak in foreign Alien language, to give of new and menacing voices, as well as completely new plot points for the story.
• The Purple saber of Mace Windu will be removed in my trilogy, and given to Qui-Gon. It makes him more important, and fits his rogue style as he choses not to be on the Jedi Council. Mace Windu will get green.
• Jar-Jar Binks has a new voice.
• Battle Droids has a new voice.
• Jar-Jar Binks will serve as comic relief, although appearances or voice from him that diminish an important character or story moment, will be removed or decreased.
• Qui-Gon is the main character of the story. Obi-Wan and Anakin are sidecharacters that will get to shine a little bit throughout, but are part of a bigger puzzle to occur in the later entries of the trilogy.
• Story narrative completely altered. The beginning of the movie in the Trade Federation Ship now takes place in the middle of the movie, and the story now starts with a Space chase, Naboo and the saving of the Queen.

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/////// THE PLOT IS AS FOLLOWS:: ///////
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Dispatched by the Jedi Council, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jin and his Padawan Obi-Wan Kenobi is on a highly important mission to the planet of Meera in the Naboo system, to find and secure the Queen of Naboo herself, after having received intel on invasion plans from the presumed, Rpublic-friendly The Trade Federation. They are revealed to be co-operating with dark forces not known to the Jedi Council nor the Republic, having killed Senators, Queens and Politicians for years, overtaking their planets and intelligence.

As The Trade Federation is revealed to be creating Droid Armies - with one already in possession, the goal is to invade the planet of Naboo, control the Queen until she is no longer needed, and then execute her.

As the Jedi are soon to figure out, the Queen has just left the planet of Meera after finishing up political business, and is back on Naboo. [Now, this is where the edit picks up and we are brought right into the action after the opening crawl.] Unbeknownst to her this entire plot is in motion - though suspicious, but not before the communcation is shut down does she realize that her planet is under attack.

The Nemodians have gathered political supporters, systems, planets - and most importantly - techonology and intelligence - through the co-operation with Palpatine, aka. Lord Sidious, for years. Naboo is the movie’s target for invasion, because this is where Palpatine sees fit to create his Clone Army; Naboo has everything they need - the huge space travel gap between them and the Republic, and all the resources needed. But this plot is not known to anyone but the Nemodians and Palpatine himself, which is something they only discuss in great secrecy.

It is not before the defeat of The Trade Federation (the separtists) on the Planet of Naboo, that Sheev Palpatine realizes his recklessness and executes his plans far beyond the reach of the Republic, in the dark corner of the galaxy on the planet of Kaminoo, with the help of corrupted Master Syfo-Dius and Count Dooku - plotting for even more years to come - which is what leads into Attack of the Clones.[/SIZE]

Star Wars - Episode I: The Ancient Lore

Episode I is the best-looking of the three prequels, with a lot of devotion put into them from both the crew, actors as well as the director himself before he went all ludacris on Digital moviemaking. It is also the most dull of the three prequels, with little to no character banter or real character development. It has to be remade.

[The Plan]

Moving on from my Harry Potter Revisited franchise, It was time to rework one of my other childhood memories. One that lacked a good story and good surprises and villains. For those who know me by now, you know I don't do with only editing pace or lines or simple cutting. I really change everything. Mattepaintings, music, sound effects, visual treatments you name it.

The Phantom Menace will not resemble anything close to what you have seen before. There is a completely new narrative and structure to the story, and with that a completely new beginning, middle and end.

[PREVIEWS]

Master and Apprentice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jOSJ1st5nw&feature=youtu.be

The Hunt for the Sith Lord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhjb5IugDYg4

Nemodians talk to their Lord - Beta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryfJeaja6So

Qui-Gon - The Rogue Jedi Knight, saving the Queen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgjPxOgTLSI

[The Changes]

- There are many new visual effects, and many alterations to both audio (voice and alien language) as well as music and sound effects.
- Appearances of Lord Sidious will have his hologram face hidden, as well as his one real-life appearance with Maul, as well as voice altered and new plot points given.
- The Nemodians (Nute Gunray & Co.) now speak in foreign Alien language, to give of new and menacing voices, as well as completely new plot points for the story.
- The Purple saber of Mace Windu will be removed in my trilogy, and given to Qui-Gon. It makes him more important, and fits his rogue style as he choses not to be on the Jedi Council. Mace Windu will get green.
- Jar-Jar Binks has a new voice.
- Battle Droids has a new voice.
- Jar-Jar Binks will serve as comic relief, although appearances or voice from him that diminish an important character or story moment, will be removed or decreased.
- Qui-Gon is the main character of the story. Obi-Wan and Anakin are sidecharacters that will get to shine a little bit throughout, but are part of a bigger puzzle to occur in the later entries of the trilogy.
- Story narrative completely altered. The beginning of the movie in the Trade Federation Ship now takes place in the middle of the movie, and the story now starts with a Space chase, Naboo and the saving of the Queen.

The original thread is over at fanedits.org, so if you want to follow this closely you'll find my thread over there. :)

Sorry for late answers on your PMs, guys. They are now answered, and also contain Chamber of Secrets : Revisited which was finished yesterday.

I hope you guys have a blast, and remember to seed! Seed! Seed! :)

This edit is now finished.

Sorry for no updates. The main thread is over at fanedit.org, and that is where I've mostly kept my updates flowing.

Feel free to send me a PM for download link.

I might also post the link here, if there are no rules about this?

- Andreas