This is my personal opinion, but might provide solid pinpoints in term of where me and my friend lose interest in the story - and therefore probably a lot of other people that find TFA boring or lacking in any way. I’ve seen TFA six times in total now, and fell asleep twice at the very same segment.

The faulty scene is when they arrive at Takodana (?). The movie just crushes down. It drags, it gets boring - we meet an uninventful Yoda-like creature, we are introduced to a very lacking and boring battle scene. And Rey runs 10 miles into the forest like some bad scene from a Disney movie.

I don’t what can be done to improve this as I’m never going to tackle this with a fanedit myself (lack of interest), but this is where me and my Star Wars geek friend lose all interest in the movie, and start bashing it for faults.

Anakin Starkiller said:

It took me quite a while to figure out the red coloration was from an alarm flashing on and off. At first, I thought it was some failed attempt at recoloring the ship. It’s confusing, and I’d just remove it, given that it doesn’t really serve a purpose. Also, Dooku’s message is too short.

Disagree on both accounts. But thank you for feedback.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Great idea having the Federation escape and meet with their master.

Cheers!

[UPDATE]

So this is the “alternative” bad guy ending I have for The Ancient Lore at the moment. With that I mean how I chose to let the villains leave for this movie. In the original movie they are taken hostage and somehow released/gotten loose within the timeframe of EP II.

So in TAL, the Viceroy and his comrade is just simply not captured. I chose to leave the bad guys and EP I on the first taste of glimpse of what to come. There are very few prototype star destroyers in the background, a very brief imperial march (first and only time in the movie) and some explanation for where the villains are heading into the next episode. Giving them some conclusion, but also setting up their future part in the story. Something the original movie failed to do, miserably.

For those who wonder, story-wise this takes place after the defeat on Naboo, in which the Nemodians goal was to re-take their homeworld of said planet, in allegiance with the Dark Lord Sidious.

The audio mix is not completely finished, nor are the visual effects. But what i preview to you is fully working in terms of function and story. I hope you enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go9hkk9aYQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3g8IZWsmbA&feature=youtu.be

[REQUEST]

I will be needing a cover art for this edit. I would like Qui-Gon big at the center with a purple, ignited saber, and Obi-Wan - smaller framed - by his side. Anakin, Jar-Jar, Battle Droids and Queen Amidala smaller framed in the background. Also, The Trade Federation Ship would be pretty neat to cover big parts of the background (or the planet of Naboo), or at least one of them on one of the sides. Credits will be given.

For all who have requested, I’ve sent links. If you have not received a link, or the link was broken, please feel free to send me a new PM.

For all who has requested, I’ve sent links. If you have not received a link, or the link was broken, please feel free to send me a new PM.

The safe-route Disney is traveling with these safe, established characters deeply worry and disappoint me. This franchise has become Marvel and Hollywood in a nutshell, and everyone swallows it whole. Despite Lucas’s way too firm and naive grasp on the prequels and its scripts, he had originality, and he took hell of a lot of chances with them. Not to mention the OT.

This Marvel Formula to Star Wars is predictable, redundant and unoriginal. The Marvel formula - to m, and the eight or so Marvel movies I’ve seen - is simply a joke every three minutes, no plot twist that will greatly endanger people’s expected expectations for the movie or their perception of it, characters that are half-developed or completely one-dimensional and/or predictable with the sole purpose to give- or complete a plot point, and - if expected by audience - kill a minor or now rather unimportant character at the end of the movie to give the audience the feel of consequence and stake, rather than set it up during the movie’s runtime.

And then people will say: but Rogue One killed all of its main characters! And TFA killed Han Solo! Well, Rogue One’s characters had little to no depth, the main character herself was never much of a main character - always being told what to do rather than to take action herself (watch the Rogue One Analysis video on YouTube) and a dragged out storyline that only picks up the last 20 minutes or so. The only character I cared about, and especially felt for upon his death, was the K2 droid.

And Han Solo’s sole purpose was to be the father of Kylo Ren and thereafter die to leave the characters with some emotional weight. However, this did of course work brilliantly - due to the already established character of Han Solo and Leia.

I hate to be the negative voice to anticipated movies, but I’m entitled to my honest opinion. I think the movies - so far, have been safe, at times boring, depthless, and incredibly predictable. I hope this changes around upon the release of TLJ and this Han Solo movie. I really hope this trend will stop. Don’t do what’s done before right - do what’s done before different!

TV’s Frink said:

Some people have trouble understanding what a forum is.

Stop blogging please!

ChainsawAsh said:

Yeah, I always thought TPM was the only one of the prequels that actually looks like a SW movie (or like a movie at all in general, for that matter).

Exactly.

DragoonClawNZ said:

That’s great to hear. Had been following the thread on Fan-edit for the last year or so. Looking forward to seeing what’s been done with this. Sent a PM.

Cheers, mate! Happy to hear that!

PM sent.

[UPDATE: FINITIO INCANTATEM AND RELEASE]

It is done. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: Revisited is packed and finished, and the first out of two releases (1080p 5.1 and 1080p Stereo) is uploaded to a Google Drive and ready for action. PMs can be sent to receive instructions. I must emphasize that you should own a legal version of the original movie before doing so. I do not encourage or support illegal viewings of this movie property.

Thank you all for contributing, and thank you to all who will be watching it and (hopefully) enjoying it.

I will submit the edit for the IFDB sometime today or tomorrow, for those who are wondering about that.

doubleofive said:

Anjohan said:

fishmanlee said:

My suggestion: make the Emperor’s shuttle unique, paint it red, or black, with the Imperial logo on the side or something.

What the f*ck? Why?

Because the grey stripe it has doesn’t differentiate it enough from the 3 other identical shuttles also in the film? It’s not a bad suggestion.

That is so illogical. So what you suggest, is that the Emperor - leader of the Empire; the biggest threat for the Rebel Alliance and all other of millions who hate and plot behind his fierce back, travel around in a ship that signifies “I am no ordinary passenger”? That’s like Luke traveling in a completely blue X-Wing, written Skywalker on the sides, and expecting not to be followed or shot down or captured.

JEDIT: I see your lust for spicing up the designs, but doing it on the Emperor’s Shuttle just diminishes his logic and therefore his character. Vader, for instance, didn’t follow Luke in a red Tie-Fighter at the end of ANH and blended in with the others, keeping himself at an advantage for doing so rather than an increased target.

Thank you all for kind and encouraging words 😃

thebluefrog said:

Liking what I’ve seen so far, though taking out the “Chosen One/Virgin Birth” aspect of the father will probably make it weird to watch in sequence, since it’s likely Ep 8 and 9 will reference it at some point.

I hate the entire concept, but I’ve been thinking about this. I might re-introduce it in EP II, and at the end of TPM/TAL.

• HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE - REMADE

[Finito Incantatem]

After months and months of hard work, I can happily conclude with the very fact that Goblet of Fire : Revisited is finished in terms of all technical aspects and audio mixes, with very little nitpicks left to do.

Thanks to everyone who has been contributing, and especially to those who have been sticking with me since Sorcerer’s Stone in 2014. All the excellent ideas, constructive criticisms and positive feedback has helped me craft - what I think - is a very, very strong Goblet of Fire.

Special thanks are (from fanedit.org’s community): JJPotter for some excellent high-quality deleted scenes, MWRK and Masirimso17 for a burning desire to improve and suggest, and all others who have in any way contributed. Thank you all.

Now, I will need a cover art. Scar has made some excellent ones for me in the past. I hope some will contribute in this area, as making one myself would be - to say it politely - a catastrophy.

As for a release date; when JJPotter has released his EE for GoF or his approval has been granted, and when I have a cover art.

Surely, thank you all! And an extra thanks to you here on originaltrilogy.com who has made these Remakes of the (now three entries) to my Revisited Saga into some sort of internet cultural thing. I never expected them to grow into this big thing, but having now over 110.000 registered downloads on just the first entry… thank you all.

*** For those who have not followed the progress of this edit, here is a short explanation and some previews: ***

• Harry Potter & the Goblet of Fire is the kind of Harry Potter movie that, as for my passion and mind, requires a totally different kind of work. Just like Sorcerer’s Stone and Chamber of Secrets, it has many weak beats and pacing issues - as well as a narrative full of oddities, but the thing that really stands out for GoF is a horrible original score that horrifyingly resembles Pop Music or a weird Potter-remix. The score has its moments, but most of it is really not cohesive as for the rest of the series on-going themes. Like the opening intro for instance (DUN-DUDUD-- EEEH-EEEEH- DUN-DUDU - EEEH-EEEEH) that sounds like some horror house trance music.

• So just as Sorcerer’s Stone and Chamber of Secrets, the Goblet of Fire needs a much more cohesive tone to follow along with the rest, as the tone of the fourth movie is in many ways quite different from the rest of the series - not just in score and pacing, but in visual style and tone… So for me it feels like this half continuation of PoA, but half back-tracking into CoS, yet trying to make the movie even darker than its predecessors, and what do we get? A stylistically confusing movie.

PREVIEWS

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=35&v=y7EnbMnBc9U (Opening)
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=66&v=BI3_6sMiTPk (Notice how none of the Auras now attack teenage kids).
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICW2hWlq-Ko (An extended train sequence to Hogwarts).
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=f7tVDskcVKw (A Letter to Sirius).
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=bqR2mpHAVKw (Enter Hogwarts).

fishmanlee said:

My suggestion: make the Emperor’s shuttle unique, paint it red, or black, with the Imperial logo on the side or something.

What the f*ck? Why?

Only thing I will suggest in this thread is to remove or replace as many puppets in ROTJ as possible.

There is something so lacking in quality in Jabba’s palace compared to ESB - and even it’s much-cheaper ANH counterpart, that the entire sequence is so conflicting to witness. From one scene to another I go from excited to laughing, to annoyed, to laughing again. I will never forget last year when me and two friends re-watched ROTJ the first time in two years (for my part at least), and I was so conflicted about the whole beginning. We couldn’t stop laughing at certain parts because of the stiff movements from many of the aliens, or their horrible facial designs and/or movements. The whole experience made ROTJ into a comedy for me.

If replacing or somehow improving proves difficult or too expensive, I’d suggest just removing the worst designs that are in the forefront all together.

The problem isn’t just that many of the designs are poorly done or ineffective in costume, but that it cheapens the entire sequence in Jabba’s Palace, which is a very worrying problem for the rest of the movie.

The designs that do work are undeniably Jabba, Boba Fett, Leia in disguise, Jabba’s Guards, and others given more than a two-second treatment. Most of the others… what were they thinking… this wasn’t 1950. This was the 80’s! The height of puppeteering and practical effects. And simply going for “background characters will go unnoticed” as a thought of process simply won’t due, even with nostalgia added into the mix.

It would be better to remove all the unpractical and/or bad designs sticking out and have fewer people in the Palace, than a bunch of “im a man in a suit” to take you completely out of the movie and ruin suspension of disbelief. We mustn’ forget that this is the ending chapter (or was, that is) of the Saga, and to have the supposedly thrilling and action-packed opening sequence be dragged down by a bunch of bad and lazy designs will ruin the rest of the experience - especially with the introdution of the Ewooks just 30 minutes later. You could instead rely on sound design to make the Palace more crowded and its inhabitants be a little bit more “everywhere”, as in there are more rooms nearby in which aliens party and talk.

The creator is Andreas at Fanedit.org. You can follow his progress on GoF over there.

Only thing I will suggest in this thread is to remove or replace as many puppets in ROTJ as possible.

There is something so lacking in quality in Jabba’s palace compared to ESB - and even it’s much-cheaper ANH counterpart, that the entire sequence is so conflicting to witness. From one scene to another I go from excited to laughing, to annoyed, to laughing again. I will never forget last year when me and two friends re-watched ROTJ the first time in two years (for my part at least), and I was so conflicted about the whole beginning. We couldn’t stop laughing at certain parts because of the stiff movements from many of the aliens, or their horrible facial designs and/or movements. The whole experience made ROTJ into a comedy for me.

If replacing or somehow improving proves difficult or too expensive, I’d suggest just removing the worst designs that are in the forefront all together.

The problem isn’t just that many of the designs are poorly done or ineffective in costume, but that it cheapens the entire sequence in Jabba’s Palace, which is a very worrying problem for the rest of the movie.

The designs that do work are undeniably Jabba, Boba Fett, Leia in disguise, Jabba’s Guards, and others given more than a two-second treatment. Most of the others… what were they thinking… this wasn’t 1950. This was the 80’s! The height of puppeteering and practical effects. And simply going for “background characters will go unnoticed” as a thought of process simply won’t due.

igorleoni said:

I’ve kept the pool reflection, but not when Bughuul turns to the camera, so you can only see a shadow and half of its face. I think its more effective as you can’t make out if its a person, a ghost or what the hell is it.

Hmm, It might be an improvement. Sometimes, indeed, the “less is more” can be the more effective.
I’m looking forward to checking it out.

How will you handle the ending?

Thank you! I’ll try my best.

This movie, and this comes from a complete horror fanatic since the age of six, had the potential to be the best horror movie I’ve ever seen. The first hour of the movie is, except a few lackluster scares and/or character flaws, pure gold. Three things ruined it;

• Too much nonsense near the end started ruining the very well-paced mood.
• The ending with the children (children, unfortunately, often lack the ability to be scary - few exceptions, being the Babadook for instance).
• Things you just mentioned.

However, I don’t know which scenes of the entitity you’re talking about removing, but the one where he’s in the pool and turns his head towards the camera should definitely be in.

snooker said:

Really excited for this!

EDIT:

The first clip is edited really well, except for the constant shot reuse and lack of spacial awareness. Are they going towards the planet or away? Are they in the middle of space or are they next to a planet? Etc.

I really like the writing for the Nemoidians, they seem genuinely threatening.

Yes, I’ve been thinking about replacing the background planet with starfields, or simply re-grade and re-color it to be another. I don’t think this would’ve been much of a problem if people just assumed it was another planet than Naboo, but seeing how everyone know it isn’t - it might be a tad too confusing.

Thanks for your positive feedback! I look forward to pleasing both you and @Smithers.

Star Wars - Episode I: The Ancient Lore - V2 EDITION

Episode I is the best-looking of the three prequels, with a lot of devotion put into them from both the crew, actors as well as the director himself before he went all ludacris on digital moviemaking. It is also the most dull of the three prequels, with little to no character motivation or even plot explanation.

This project was started at fanedit ORG in around 2014, but was abandoned due to hardware loss. It got re-started somewhere around early 2015. The entire purpose of this edit is to re-make the entire movie into a very interesting and exciting piece of cinema, with the very best of my ability to make it into a coherent Star Wars addition, full of wonder, mystery, compelling characters and life.

[The Changes - Per V2 Edition, V1 is scrapped and was more of a beta version]

• There are more new visual effects than i can count, and many alterations to both audio (voice and alien language) as well as music and sound effects.
• Story narrative altered. The Nemodians are motivated by revenge as much as Sidious’s plot (;which is to create a clone army on Naboo).
• Appearances of Lord Sidious will have his hologram face hidden for a duration of the beginning to create mystery, as well as his hologram voice altered and new plot points given. Perhaps even the entire movie.
• The Nemodians (Nute Gunray & Co.) speak in foreign Alien language, to give of new and menacing voices, as well as completely new plot points for the story.
• The Purple saber of Mace Windu will be removed in my trilogy, and given to Qui-Gon. It makes him more important, and fits his rogue style as he choses not to be on the Jedi Council. Mace Windu will get green.
• Battle Droids has a new voice, but hardly ever speak.
• Jar-Jar Binks will serve as comic relief, although appearances or voice from him that diminish an important character or story moment, will be removed or decreased. His presence is that of C-3PO in A New Hope; he’s there, but he doesn’t take up screentime that he does not deserve.
• Qui-Gon is the main character of the story. This is very clear throughout. Obi-Wan and Anakin are side-characters that will get to shine a little bit throughout, but are part of a bigger puzzle to occur in the later entries of the trilogy.
• Anakin has, to the very best of my ability, become a very strict, grown-up kid with a lot of personality. This comes across in his dialogue with Wattoo and Sebulba, as well as his lack of stupid lines or groans or unecessary screentime. There are neither any accidents in his actions.
• Anakin is not any chosen one, and his father died gambling. His mother is all he has. Anakin and Padme’s love theme is given to Anakin and his mom and their relationship.
• Darth Maul has more screentime and presence throughout.

[PLOT EXPLANATION]
The Nemodians have gathered political supporters, systems, planets - and most importantly - techonology and intelligence - through the co-operation with Palpatine, aka. Lord Sidious, for years. Naboo is the movie’s target for invasion, because this is where Palpatine sees fit to create his Clone Army; Naboo has everything they need - the huge space travel gap between them and the Republic, and all the resources needed.

• Most of this comes across throughout the dialouge and actions taking place in the film.

///////// PREVIEW CLIPS /////////////

THE MOVIE’S OPENING (5M, 30 SEC ## This IS OUTDATED and from VERSION I)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a69tzvDYnpE

SITH LORDS ON TATOOINE (Some VIDEO FX will be updated for V2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElzRNYkrn7o

BEGINNING OF THE END (Will be updated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_XtnqJgfKI

QUI-GON VS MAUL (Might be updated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJEKjGAyHjg

FATHERLY TIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXSldN2x_Ag

THE ENDING PT. 1 (Will be updated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9uWRdEXz1E