Anjohan

I will always encourage fanedits that try to do something radical and new, than safe. Best of luck to you!

People have been telling me for years to watch The Clone Wars series to re-ignite my love for the bigger Star Wars universe, but I’m literally allergic to filler episodes and meaningless sideplots. But your edits have received so much praise, I must just ask:

Are these films (or series) streamlined and focused? And if so, me and my girlfriend would love to give them a watch sometime - in which case, I would be happy to receive a PM. 😃

Also - for the TCW 2003 series, have you considered using the 4k upscale as your source? Would make TCW 2003 and the modern fit better in visual sharpness.

Sirius said:

Anjohan said:

Sirius said:

I liked it, the only thing I found a bit odd was the fire springing up on the floor. Maybe just a smoke there would be good. Or you could set the fire somewhere else, like in the trees or in the ship.

In the second sequence? Or the first with the stairs background?

In the sequence showing the stairs as background and in the sequence showing the square. The two have a fire on the floor.

Got’cha. Agreed. I’ll look to improve or replace the effect.

G&G-Fan said:
I quite like the witty banter, the voice work is very convincing too.

I do kind of find it odd that Qui-Gon calls a diplomatic mission boring considering it’s literally the Jedi’s main job, but I can’t say I didn’t laugh.

Hehe, happy to hear that! Let us call it sarcasm with a dash of irony. I always felt that Qui-Gon has very static, sarcastic humour in the films. Call it clever humour (for instance: “the ability to speak does not make you intelligent”).

The fact it made you and others chuckle means it must be working. Thank you for your feedback.

Sirius said:

I liked it, the only thing I found a bit odd was the fire springing up on the floor. Maybe just a smoke there would be good. Or you could set the fire somewhere else, like in the trees or in the ship.

In the second sequence? Or the first with the stairs background?

Naboo Aftermath

https://streamable.com/3jfgyl

PodracingThisIs91 said:

Anjohan said:

I think I found a better and more natural solution than the original dialogue idea.

As far as that FakeYou site. It can produce decent results, but i find the GitHub release much better and more powerful. Sometimes the voices can be rendered almost robotic through the site, requiring a lot of post-render work in Audacity and Vegas.

However, audio trickery - and especially dialogue - is always difficult. It took me nearly two hours just to produce this snippet - and I don’t know if it will work, but here it is:

https://streamable.com/oxwbrf

The “You are not his padawan anymore” bit sounds funny with headphones (cheap ones), a bit too robotic and with a diferent ‘tone’. With the laptop speakers is barely noticeable. I think I can tell doe to the prior headphones listening and wouldn’t have noticed otherwise

Hmm, I can not reproduce this issue with two different headsets on my own end. I suppose I can’t prevent the line from being 100 percent on all audio devices, but what I can do is try and even out the volume levels and perhaps even clean them up once more. I will see what I can do.

mrbenja0618 said:
I like the clip, the flames a look a tad off, but I see you say you are still tweaking, but the concept works. I wish there could be a way to make it more atmospheric that matches the mood of the scene. Maybe more gray and overcast over mostly sunny with scattered clouds, but that would be a load of rotoscoping work.

Regardless, I’m deeply interested in this. Also, why does Qui-Gon have a purple saber? Was just for the sake of change, or is there a deep cut reason? haha

Suggestions always appreciated.

Qui-Gon have a purple saber for two reasons;

• One is that it fits him more than Mace Windu, as Qui-Gon is more of a rogue Jedi and therefore also not on the Council
• and he is the obvious main character of this edit, and therefore it gives him a more unique approach

Vidmaster said:

Overall, this is good. But the random flames clearly pasted onto the scene look out of place and tagged on… the stairs are burning in that one scene? My advice: Stick to the smoke, especially the one in the background. That looks really good for the most part.

Yes, agreed. As stated it need work. It was more about “setting the scene”. Thank you for your feedback. I am happy that you find the smoke effect to be working.

T-202 said:
I really dig this, It fits perfectly with the more hostile Takeover of Naboo you set up in V1.

Always appreciate feedback. I am glad you feel the same. I hope for the Naboo Invasion to hit really hard for the audience.

Sirius said:

Yeah, maybe dead soldiers would be good, since that is more of a royal area (I think). One thing I think could be good too is changing the color of the sky, or at least put more smoke in the sky area

Agreed.

Great suggestion. Will do so.

evansj1983 said:

I love this! I remember AlaskanSandman trying something similar and was sad it wasn’t able to come to anything. I always feel like we need some sense of what has happened to the later line “our people are suffering” hits home more.

I agree. I think if we see how bad the state of the planet is when we leave it the first time, all dialogue about it will hit home even harder.

Naboo Aftermath (Beta)

https://streamable.com/ha8ja8

Will need some more work. Any suggestions would be good.

I will probably add some dead battledroids, but I wonder if any dead civilianz would be too harsh?

Great to hear that it works. I will remove the following “Padawan” on Qui-Gon’s second line to smooth things out, on suggestion from Fanedit.org.

I think I found a better and more natural solution than the original dialogue idea.

As far as that FakeYou site. It can produce decent results, but i find the GitHub release much better and more powerful. Sometimes the voices can be rendered almost robotic through the site, requiring a lot of post-render work in Audacity and Vegas.

However, audio trickery - and especially dialogue - is always difficult. It took me nearly two hours just to produce this snippet - and I don’t know if it will work, but here it is:

https://streamable.com/oxwbrf

arabian said:

Honestly, my main issues with TPM are:
…
I just wish you could change the name Dooku because that remains the stupidest, worse SW name ever in my opinion.

Those are pretty much my issues since I embarked on this edit as well, along with bad character development, a weak villain and a total lack of a main character.

I could fix Dooku - which Is a stupid name (Count Evil would be just as fitting), but such things are so Canon-breaking that it would beg more trouble than resolution.

OBS:

And a half-assed but working fix for the Obi-Wan/Yoda dynamic could be through the use of the free Github Voice AI. I could easily have a decent result of Qui-Gon saying a line like this:

“After so many years as a Padawan of Master Yoda, I expect you to be more mindful of the force”.

evansj1983 said:

That is a tough call. I remember watching it back then and being very intrigued by the changes you made. I don’t recall it being hard to follow - just it being very different.

Mostly I was into the addition of Dooku so whatever you choose to do, having that will make it continue to be a joy!

It is.

Interesting to hear opinions. Did you ever get beyond intrigued tho? Did you ever lose focus, interest or even completely fall out of the movie at places because of the new changes? Or did you find them easy to adapt to?

arabian said:

This sounds very interesting. I, for one, would be very interested in a canon-compliant version. Can’t wait until you do that! But I look forward to May the 4th!

I am seriously considering re-structuring The Ancient Lore V2 to the original film structure - but with my story alterations, if that is what most people wish.

I remember this was very split back in 2018 at Fanedit.org. 50 percent insisted that the new structure made this edit unique, and the other 50% meant that the original structure would be easier to follow.

I suppose both are true, which is why choosing which to focus the most energy and time into - prioritize - is getting increasingly difficult as i get further into the process of editing.

One part of me think that going back to the original structure (but with my alterations made) will be the most accessible option for all viewers, and then doing the “Radical version” (which is more the original TAL structure) thereafter.

Sirius said:
I like what other editors made with TPM, but for me this movie needs a bit more work than just cut bad parts/add deleted scenes, to be a better film. TPM is complex in that sense.

Exactly. There is a decent film in there!

Sirius said:

Hi, I posted some ideas for episode I in the community focus thread, and I think that some of them maybe could work in an edit like yours:

Most of these ideas are to some extent in the original TAL, which is very ironic if you haven’t actually seen my edit! I like the way you think!

Suffice it to say, I like the ideas! The Maul footage will need to thoroughly and seamlessly be incorporated to work (which I feel they only did at about 60% in TAL) and if I don’t find the right balance of color grade and perhaps motion, then I will exclude most of the footage and use the working bits (like a Yoda vision scene).

As for the only idea I haven’t tinkered with, Maul controlling the murderous sea creatures is actually very intriguing. The problem is that this will require major restructuring and probably some new VFX to introduce Maul in a way that doesn’t break the flow of the edit nor what I am aiming for with the story beats. Therefore I find it difficult if such an early introduction to Maul would actually work.

Perhaps if you watch the first 20 minutes of TAL you can conjure up some ideas. I am always open to them, but the most important thing here would be for the story to flow seamlessly. I fear that such an event would break the original flow of the edit, and also the mystery element of the first act.

I think it works great! BTW, are those AI voices? What app did you use, those sound great!

Yes, they are. Im using an AI Software released on github - with decent to very good results. Although I do have to tinker a lot before achieving something workable in both pitch and tone.

COMMUNITY:

I will need more feedback from people to know if it works good enough that with even more fine-tuning and precision things like this could be done to a good result.

I’m trying something on a whim here, and I am interested in whether this approach is working or not.

https://streamable.com/gov9qd

I am simply trying to create better conversations and some humour between Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon. I think the first portion works very well (up until “is going to be the death of me”), and the latter about 80%.

I’m trying to achieve a few things through this dialogue:

• Obi-Wan is inpatient and a little whiny, much like most Padawans are (Anakin will be). But with decent humour and irony.
• A little gab at the original film premise (diplomatic mission)
• Obi-Wan hating the planet, that he will once end up living on
• Qui-Gon trying to keep his Padawan’s mind focused on the Force and the ways of the Jedi.

Thank you for your kind words! ❤️ Always appreciated.

sirlegion13 said:

If you’re open to suggestions, what originally drew my attention looking through IFDB was that you included bits from Maul: Apprentice. One of my biggest takeaways once I was able to see it, was that you made Maul a much more threatening villain by the end. I hope those additions survive the rework.

Very reassuring to hear that, Sirlegion. I will have to better integrate the footage with that of the original film than what I did in the original edit, but the structure and hopefully most of the footage will be there.

sirlegion13 said:

Woah, I was just asking about your and this edit in the month’s discussion thread. Can I get a link to your Improved Version when you’re willing to share? Thanks in advance!

It is the will of the force, young Padawan. You shall see hope. There is always hope.

My PM inbox and threads are a mess of PM requests. When I release the edit, I advice you to PM me so I don’t forget it. Cheers!