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- #383835
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- Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/383835/action/topic#383835
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Feeling lucky?
-Angel
Feeling lucky?
-Angel
DE said:
Seriously though, Angel, those images look great - I'm tempted to do something along those lines when I get around to ESB. It really turns it from a set into a world.
DE
Im glad that i can inspire ppl here :D
You know where to find me, Im here to help :)
However, I find the light tends to be too bright in most of your images.
The light is optional. Actually i tried to reduce some dead blacks here and there. Who ever can take the concept and fit to their tastes :)
I totally agree, it would be nice to see some evidence behind the X-Wing of some broken tree trunks, and broken branches scattered in the same trajectory of the X-Wing's flight path as it crash landed into the swamp.
thats why i put a simple light ray( you may tone it down as well) that shows a visible path without any other movement or destruction.
He uses MS paint!!
Yes sir!
Angel:
on one last note, I like your previous X-wing lifting shot a little better - the new one probably meshes better with what we saw before, but it still has a set look in how enclosed and specific the line of trees are. The former shot, while the lighting could be toned down, is a LOT more opened up.
Heh.. Stay on ESB design, Stay claustrophobic. I dont know what to do anymore :P Its up to ady to give a final word ( hoping to change his mind :D)
It would be cool to see some trees fall and see leaves shaking when Yoda is lifting the ship with the force. The same thing happend in AOTC when Dooku and Yoda were having their force battle. Debris was falling from the ceiling. It would be cool to see the branches shake and some trees fall. It would really add to the scene.
Michael bay's Son? I love this dude here :D
Thanks you all :D
-Angel
-Angel
ImperialFighter said:
Oh, and I've come across an interesting wrong-way-round, 'flipped' shot today that I've never noticed before, but I want to go into that another day too.
No NO!
I want to know it NOW! :D
-Angel
I also have no idea how you put together those concept pics, because the detail is astounding.
Your eyes can deceive you! dont trust them! :D
- Old Jedi Angel
ImperialFighter said:
I prefer the 'gloomy', densely-packed treeline/root system that seems to make up Dagobah, as shown in the background of the 'wider, more open' views such as this one and when Luke has just crashed.
how about this?
More ESB like ;)
-Angel
Yes ImpFighter, i Noted that i put too much light to that shot :(.
The thing is liek you said is that it looks like a wall,painted/set. Also that light rays appears in the next shots so its handy and adds depth and variation.
Dont just stack in the tree design( it was quick) but how it helps the scene ;)
At least now in a way you can spot yoda :P
-Angel
Ghost said:
Keep these coming because you are right, this sequence has a boring mood. Also, the two sides of the background don't match.
Thanks to Rob he uploaded many but not all the mockups i ve done here. Check them to be informed http://swremixed.deviantart.com/
What sides dont match?
-Angel
There is always the AOTC approach :P
maybe the arch is too cliche!
-Angel
Maybe one more, more interesting sunset?
i was toying with the idea that the sun goes under the clouds. So there is no night as we know it.
-Angel
I was thinking to change the boring mood of this shot, and making it more stylised moody, as the heroes are closing to dark gangster paths.
Its a concept and i made two versions, One with sail barge and one with not.
i tried to open a bit the scale and create a visible path that leads to the palace.
Playing around with Mcquarie's moods..
-Angel
If you notice closely in GOUT you can see the mattelines. where the set ends.
I know and agree the way that ady sees dagobah as unpredictable and claustrophobic feeling.
My 2 cents is to improve fix some bad elements.
-Angel
Well with my version you get more visible detail, better mood, sense of scale( jungle always wins) and light behavior.
-Angel
rcb said:
for a lamp that thing sure doesn't light up much. i've always assumed that it was used to look inside close spaces. it seems like it would be a flash light or glow stick more then a lamp.
It wasnt a led light ;)
God i hope this will not create a debate about this lamp :P
-Angel
rcb said:
off topic question but when luke uses the force to get his light saber in the throne room, does he try to kill the emperor and vader stops him, or does he mean to strike at vader?
Strike down the emperor. vader blocks him. :)
-Angel
Whatever i can help from matte POV let me know. You know that i love transformers and i dont mind to see alterations of improvements to the movies.
I meant to ask, how persent of TF and ROTF will be in this edit?
-Angel
Darth Solo said:
I still live, 4 u unfortnate peeps. Angel keep those coming aswell.
See? alien trees for ya :D
-Angel
Ghost said:
Will there be more shots of Dagobah in the edit? I'd like to see Dagobah more opened up for some scenes. It really feels to crowded and "on set." In one of the first scenes it shows Dagobah nice and open with some atmoshere to it.
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-NEW-TRAILER-AVAILABLE-NOW/post/383491/#TopicPost383491
Just for fun :)
Ok i ll shut up now :P
-Angel
I go back to dagobah.
We see yoda sits on ground and then at the end of the x wing elevation is on a rock(higher level from luke)
Also considering adding something pre SE that the trees behind the elevation scene have some light that defines the space and creates a less set like feel but claustophobic the same way. Besides in the later shots(pic 2) there is enough light coming behind those trees.
(yes i know there is more light that it should)
-Angel
PS: Add Lensflares to yoda's flashlight...........
Yes Im kidding :P
shanerjedi said:
What happened to the mockups of Jabba's palace as the barges leave? Didn't Angel do one of those?
No! wait, what?
I mean remind me the task. A mockup that shows the bairge ships leaving from the palace?
-Angel
Monroville said:
But to keep this somewhat on topic, I was wondering if there is the possibility to add lighting effects be it on Dagobah, Bespin, Endor, the Emperor's private palace and the like to subtract from the "set look (uniform lighting from background to foreground)". Here are some examples:
ESF did an awesome mockup that shows a sun behind the throne room set that creates sunrays. Or i can remember Bingo's one to the homeone briefing scenes he added some light rays from top lights.
I like the idea, i dont know if its possible to do it to set shots. You know i tried to do something in the endor scenes. much more easy.
Those are just some slash marks, that guy is nearly being vertically bissected. It's a lot more violent.
Like the poor geonosian that cutted in half by anakin? or obi cuted violenty the legs of the alien spider? or or or..
-Angel
Ghost said:
I don't mean to interupt this intelligent conversation, but lets here some SW ideas. This talk has been going on for about 1.5 pages.
you can start suggesting ideas anytime!
Go Go Go!
-Angel
Ghost said:
I wonder how much better AOTC would have been with Kersh. He probably would have shot at all real locations, except Coruscant.
Before you start you are going offtopic. go there The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Ady, I had to ask about the cameos things. Its about to be 2d images from members or somehow footage in the movie?
-Angel
Ghost said:
That it is, especially when Ady gets done with it!
When in 2010 will this edit be out?
It'll be done ; not a moment before.
shanerjedi said:
Haha! Ah geez. You know what I meant by Greeks. Storytelling! :p
Nah! The Greek here is to Visuals! :P
-Angel