Angel

It must slipped by my optic sensors :(

Well yeah id happy to :D

What you will use as provider? rapidshare (i got premium on that :D)

-Angel

Grrrrrrrreat!

All these details! A good reference for everyone here!

Cant wait to see more of it :D

-Angel

bobgarcia74 said:

I'll upload it and send you the links for a test viewing Benj. 8)

I want one too! :'(

-Angel

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Alright part 3 (and final) of the "ROTS new timeline" videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsr59ZpcPEc

I tried explaining everything I did in the description box...but ran out of room! So many changes! ;)

Ok i will officially kneel and obey before you :D

The fallen pylon and the way that you treat it was superb! No more sadistic behavior from obi wan, no more sith eyes no more same fire composited elements!

I could beg you to send me the shot with the dead anakin and the pylon in HR :D

loved how the polis masa shit was tied together with the locations of tantive. that was neat!

The vader creation. what a little new music can add different feelings. Still i didnt understand the cut from the ship flyby and to vader's rise. but generally speaking the new dialogue adds something :D

part 4????

-Angel

PS: thanks for the credit, captain ;)

BmB said:

Also, vaderios. I'm sorry but if you look at the colours, shading, shape, scale and all of the set compare to your model.... well, at this rate they'll never look alike.

Yes yes.. You all know me when something is wip and when is not ;)

I have proven that all these time ;)

The image was for the sake of comp and how or when this port should be in the shot :)

Angel, there's definitely some scale/ positioning problems with the hatch you have added. Maybe this pic will help (just click on the image to see it full size)

Thanks for that ady! I really wanted something like that :D

Btw, you should check this if you havent.. Millennium falcon scales by savmagoett.

It might solve some scale problems here and there in MF

-Angel

savmagoett said:

Something like that:

So.. tilted structure straight antennas..

see that way too :)

-Angel

BmB said:

I still think it looks completely different, and the perspective looks like it's off as well compared to the "horizon" of the underbelly of cloud city.

yes some details are being fixes cause of lack of observation :)

Something like that:

yeah! looks good.

Impfighter i want your view on that matter :D

-Angel

BmB said:

That model looks much too flat compared to the set. I also thought the whole thing was well out of frame anyways.

yarp its still a wip ;)

And thats why i run it in max to see if that is indeed out of frame ;)

Ignore the remains of the backdrop as well the early textures :)

-Angel

mrbenja0618 said:

I know personally that Bob has gone above and beyond to deliver this one.

I second that :D

-Angel

Just testing some things of how can be done..

Considering this shot:

(note on that pic: See that the white balance is correct and set, but the walls are clearly redish. from that and only we can assume that bespin has red parts in the underbelly of the superstructure.)

I run some tests how this can be looked into the later shots..

So i ve made 3 examples.

The pivot was placed in Luke's antenna. so what you look is the same thing just rotated for more or less viewing of the details.

See and tell me

-Angel

Just if you missed that i ve spot some shit here and there that you might want to fix/eliminate from your edit:

Quote myself

Some shots for your consideration :)

Anakin and obi wan. Its a reshoot. The lightning, the scar, clothing and hair are changing between shots.

Also flipped zoomed reused shot

I fix this long time ago. In fact i dont remember who asked me to use my mockup to his edit .

One shot Anakin is on the shot. In the other he isnt.

Sorry for the page stretch :)

-Angel

Great!

I was wondering tho if you will enhance the door that dooku comes out.

Stylisticaly speaking we have to hear a sound before palps says "count dooku"

Also instead of a sudden close (because all the doors in the ship are slow as hell) you can make a more interesting effect. to brake that 2d layer look.

And add some lights behind the door to indicate that there some hall or an elevator aka vader in death star II.

A question: When obi cuts the super droids is something wrong with the cut there? i mean in your version i see the screen trembling/waving like trying to fade a rough cut or something..

-Angel

adywan said:

That was a huge problem, as i have said before, with the PT - everything was explained too much.

 

As for the curvature of the city then that's another things that doesn't need fixing. That city is huge and Luke is close to the central core so there wouldn't be such a slope and there is already a slight curvature to the underside. from such a great scale of the city and the angle that luke is the existing curvature is how it would be. So i'm not doing anything to that either.

That is true.. Also in the OT and generaly the old Sci fi they were trying to make something look like sci-fi with several ways. Now the genre become obvious and pushed too hard.

Nevertheless the matte i think needs some enhancements. maybe adding/matching the colors/details with the set.

as for the central pylon it might be visible to one or two shots while falcon or ties accelerating :)

-Angel

Hah!

Epic!

Enemy 's located! I loved that!

And I find Grievous mechanical ticks/gimmicks very awesome! Converting him as a problematic cyborg that its time to be replaced. Also it adds some weird wicked personality. Maybe its just me ;)

Inspire from Robocop and Ed-209 could be a good reference ;)

Also in the clip id like to see the elevator coming down one more time to enhance the tension since we dont see the heroes watching it as it comes.

Great edit there :D

-Angel

Sound FX from various games that have them open for viewing i assume..

Unreal Tournament Half life Doom 3 are the ones that have the sounds you want..

assuming and only that you may buy the games or find the soundpacks somewhere in the net :)

I hope that helps

-Angel

BmB said:

Adywan, working on an HD version and all should be able to tell what it is anyways.

No clue..

I checked it on HD

Unless is something like the TIE shuttle. When you see the actual prop you got it what it was ;) and not from the movie

-Angel

Rogue Leader said:

Vader retrieves Lukes hand and lightsaber from the surface of Bespin. The hand was put into storage along with the lightsaber and used to create a Clone of Luke in "The Last Command" by Joruus C'boath.

However, further retconning now says that the hand was found in the bowels of Cloud City by an Ugnaught AND that Bespin has no surface and is a gas giant... Idiots...  

Anyway, this makes that random object falling down from the hole after Luke lands on the weather vane ambiguous at best even though it should be Luke's hand/saber.

The first is an EU statement, that doesnt count :P

Well i always thought bespin was a gas giant even the planet from above was like all the rest in ESB... white with clouds(thanks the variation)

All the falling concept was to show depth and define what is bottom and what is top..

So simply remove the no sense falling object or show a visible broken piece from the city..(like an antenna piece like Tobar said) in Luke's close up shot.

IF it was his saber/hand wouldnt be following luke during his vein fall?

isnt the hand/saber was off several time before luke fell?

makes sense?

Monroville said:

Also, is it me or could something be done to the underside to show it extend a lot more into the background (more antennas, with the grid work extending back more, etc)?

Well assuming that luke fell into one of the many holes/tubes/veins then there should be visible hatches/doors in the rest of the area..

Plus again the live action set piece is different from the extended matte.

-Angel

It isnt..

Assuming its from fans to fans. Which they made great job ;)

-Angel

ImperialFighter said:

There is some slight 'curvature' to them all, as things stand.

Again that is a "negative/bad" curvature.

A curvature from the lens isnt represent a real curvature.. only can create illusions and paradoxes

-Angel

The purpleish color is gone in ady's CC version.

The tie fighter shots you mention really solve the angle/curvature problem or can be used as reference..

but in the cockpit shots the curvature of the superstructure gives us teh impression that there are two camera lenses at the same time with weird effects.. and yes camera lens distortion is an other thing from the tilt ;)

The only clue i have from the fallen piece is luke's blaster?

And yes like i said my model based on the wrong blueprints :)

-Angel

Save me savmagoett:D:D:D

Blueprint master :)

Show me what is accurate there

-Angel

This is something interesting.

I run a timezone thing in max and here is the results.

I put two opposed angles to cover more lightning, color and shadows behavior.

-Angel

Just my input here :)

I like the red saber!

Note to fix the blue floor/hair/cloth reflections tho ;)

Since visually the editing seems flawless (especially in the battle) you have to aim to the audio/music cuts that seems to be in several places to fill the gaps.

I know all these are temp just a basic feedback before the deeper analysis come:)

-Angel

Ah Bob is here :)

I was watching this in FE.org :)

Do you have it upped yet?

-Angel

Ripplin said:

 I kinda like the towers, as it's like a city on top of a city.

True. YOu have to zoom/fly close to the city section to see them, but i get your point ;)

Also Compare:

Original,

TFU

and Schematics squeezed/flatten

Also considering the angled image, after a talk with johnny ringo he pointed that the antennas should be straight vertical to the angled roof to avoid weird entanglements :P

-Angel

PS: Isnt Asteroidman who wanted the new Cloud city?