Angel

Im curious why Impfighter missed to mention the incocistences in the backgrounds while the speeders are flying and how some backdrops are repeateted after a while causing a mess..

Is ady planing to rearange the flying shots so it makes more sense?

In the last clip they are still the same.

Can Vue do the justice making seamless mountain flyby's during the sequence?

Are available flying icy mountains footage to make it seamless?

Any chance to fix the last moment shaking in the footage while the speeder stays still?(there is a moment before we cut into the cockpit that the air footage shakes but the speeder element stays in its path)

~Berry/Angel

This is great! I really love the cuted anie(one more arrow)-padme's conv. Its really straight forward and like you pointed no more teen movies :D I love the music that you chose there!

As for the GG new music i can say this works to a point.. after that sounds a bit off while the chorus march of the general is cut/entered so violently to the the scene. You may want to use a chorus from the movie 300 or that style.

Any chance to use additional music from other JW works? Even you want to achieve a more retro/star wars feeling you must consider the orchestra that was used back then. Different cues and melodies. More dramatic etc.

Cant wait to see more 

-Angel

They are still looking cartoony like lasers. Like the asteroid trail when the probot crashes on hoth.. You know.. painted on film. Isnt any chance to make them more real? Like fire or smoke or some energy something look.?

Here go again for the green lazorz debate

-Angel

Sevb32 said:

You got those depictions of the bridge in larger higher res? Look great.

I do.. I will PM you when i got home :)

~Berry

Sounds Good Mr Norris :D

In some parts the same sfx it might be a bit repeated.

Its amazing how the cockpit sound addition adds so much as a retro effect :D

Post more clips :D

-Angel

Ady, i had suggested in the past that in the bounty hunter scene some parts of the set should change so its actually the bridge and not something that resembles it. I think you said that the shot was not supposed to be on the bridge.

Anyways these images can show what i mean. Since we know from the establishing shot that there arent 2 doors leading to the bridge but one big (even we see one of them at the end that you cleverly cropped :D) it gives a solid concept of the layout of the bridge.

Not 100% accurate but the key parts are there.

-Angel

I took my time to see the presentation of the bad moments you pointed. At the end i was stunted from the new sfx that you added rather what you cut :P The shot that transformed the jet sound to TIE sound was superb!

Im really intrigued to say you can try a music less version or the music is slight in lower levels. Strategically leveled sfx can lead the eye and the ear to the point of interest.

What else do you plan/already cuted? Will be only edited wise fanedit, or more radical like Bob Garcia is doing?

-Angel

I ll be back ;)

yoda1138 said:

I have been experimenting with a few mock ups of shots, but was stumped when it came to posting them here.

Cool! Im wondering what will be :D

-Berry

Ripplin said:

lol! Epic! this giving ideas that the walkers are more maneuver than we thought. Giving ideas for new the 3D SE Ripplin? :D

-Angel

Burdokva said:

I remembered some nice old YouTube renders of AT-ST and AT-AT on Hoth:

AT-ST Hoth

AT-ATs

 Would the CGI look fake if it was farther away in the background? Plus, they're old renders (at least the first), I suppose newer 3D renders could have a better and more realistic lighting.

Snowtroopers fixed

EDIT: Sorry, should be fixed now.

Isnt this guy work for ady already?

I concur! The lightning in the battle changes so often. Yes in some points some renders can do the justice removing the set/model feeling and open the landscape. A scene i recall right now is when the at at'd head explode and its ready to fall. There is a gloomy landscape that doesnt match with the previous ones as well the tiny at at in the back doing an akward movenent and is affected by the shadow of the front walker while falling..

Well im sure these are fixed/enhanced. Im more curious for the mattes behind and continuity :D

~Berry killed Angel

Hopefully it is up on DA page( thanks again SketchRob :D)

-Angel

PM sent :)

-Angel

Bingowings said:

Cade Skywalker and Angel did some fine color adjustments on the redux thread. e.g.

Bingo are these mine? I cant recall. They are way too green for my tastes. If yes curse my monitors..

I would say that some color correction would be pretty nice, just cause I think the PT, especially the dvd release, is over-saturated. I mean... all the scenes on Geonosis are completely orange. Now, I love orange, my favorite color but... come on... LOL Everything is absolutely dominated by orange and it makes it look to cartoony. Just an example. But, again, that's just me.

is these good enough for reference?

In case you missed them in the redux topic

Aside from switching once scene from day to night in Balance of the Force, I hadn't really done any. Though I may recolor some vehicles and the occasional lightsaber changes color.

What shot? I can help

-Angel

adywan said:

After looking at the scene again there is no possible way that the troops could have got out of the Walker in time. Not only would there be injures and others would be disorientated, but there is just no time between the Walker crashing and the speeders blowing it up for anything like this to happen.

Well yes.. you can always extend the shot slightly like you did with the bespin gantry. You can even add that camera projection technique or adding more elements that showing the scale. Since the backgrounds is a mess( as you already know) some alterations can be done here and there. The only matter is the music. Falling troopers or some small lasers from the walker or from inside/open hatches by snowtroopers can stand up.I think monroville said something similar(?)

-Angel

Nicholas J. Michalak said:

And I do have to say, and being meaning to say for a long time, that all the mock-ups on doubleofive's blog are absolutely gorgeous and stunning.  Praise beyond words to everyone who worked on those.

-NJM

Oh thank you so much :D

(for mine mockups at least)

-Angel

So from there TMBTM took the lines from the war of the stars!

:D

-Angel

Nicholas J. Michalak said:

Well, I'm just talking about perceived size, essentially.  I just believe that the DS2 should appear to be more massive next to everything else in the film.  For example, at the end of ESB, you see the size of the Falcon and TIE Fighters next to the Executor, and they look like insects in comparison to it.  The Super Star Destroyer is obscenely gigantic next to these little ships, and you finally get that relative scale.  You don't get that with the Death Star II because all we really see it properly in scale to is the Endor moon, and it doesn't look that large.

-NJM

I completely agree with every line. Thats why i keep saying that ROTJ sucks from cinematography. thats why my mockups were meant to show and mark out the missing scale factor from ROTJ. I really imaging a shot when the battle goes even more close to the star and the ships are around the dish/eye. when the whole background is the eye ready to fire we follow b wings deploying bombs. something like a star tours shot whatever :)

-Angel

This is an interesting find (at least for me) that it shows the death star that actually have the dish in the center of the hangars trench. Like we see in ANH atari schematics.

It would be interesting enough that the DS II could have the laser in that position as its more powerful

Can anyone confirm if there is an actual reference that the DS had the eye in the middle?

-Angel

Something similar with the soundboards? you might want to use something along these lines aswell :)

http://www.starwars.com/themovies/episodev/empire_hotline/index.html

-Angel

Well yes. The concept was adding deploying troopers when the walker is crashed and they are trying to escape or charge.

have troops all the time is pointless like you said.

Is Ming have contacts with TKs?

-Angel

Or you can show Ming and his friends trying to shoot imperial troops that are deploying from the crashed walker like i suggested in an old mockup. and then the speeder comes and blasts the cr@p out the walker it will make more sense(?)

-Angel

Alright then :)

Cant wait to see the changes/clips

Good luck :D

-Angel

Will you incorporate anything from Color correction? Even subtle like Wookiegroomer did? Will be in HD?

Keep it up :D

~Angel

A cloning facility like a timbana gas mining facility. must have some similarities. Even we dont get any other mention if they are other cloners in the galaxy.

Something more industrial..more real.

-Angel