No new clips or pics please.
We got enough. And they can lead into trouble ;) ;)
-Angel
haraldo23 said:
And maybe in this scene on the right side there could be some kind of reactor or something. You know, like those glowing things in TPM in the Kenobi/Qui-Gon vs. Darth Maul fight?
I don't know, just put some sort of energy source there, so that it looks more futuristic and advanced.
vaderios said a few posts before:
Further ideas: when Luke han and chewie are on the elevators , in the far shot( the one with the matte) if you think the layout a bit you will notice that the big hole at the right with the half extended bridges makes no sense.
So removing the doors/bridges whatever and adding a ROTJ or TMP reactor like pole in the midde. meaning that we have to expand the shot to the right and pan it back to our heroes. Subtle changes will not affect the lightning settings(maybe a slow flickering just for the sake of it). The station needs more powerful shots and more industrial look.
Working with large scales with small rooms it brakes the illusion of vastness but tho it creates claustrophobic results. Well you have to sacrifice some to gain some others.
ha!
Also in most of the scenes with R2 - he is moving very, very slowly. His head/wheels are so slow. Maybe his movements can be sped up a little. Not much, but just a little.
Very true.
And in this scene - maybe there could be a ship flying by in the background? Just to give an impression that there's some other stuff going on.
I love that idea of random TIE patrols
Oh and what's up with those elevators? It takes almost forever for those doors to close -
Thank you sir. That was bothering me too. I hope mr J can run some tests :D
-Angel
I see what i can do.
I might summarize my old mockups into one post including some of Venal's.
-Angel
Bingowings said:
I think a lot of Angel's early mock-ups wandered away when he moved to a different hosting site. Darth Venal did some nice mock-ups too
What mockups are you refering Bingo?
I can reup them for the sake of the list.
-Angel
Marcos_Edson said:
Well, he´s awesome and all but I can´t picture a stormtrooper parade for each time he arrives to his command ship (or any ship or destination, actually)... :)
Well true. As we see him landing the shuttle and walk alone on the endor platform(there was a mockup actualy from AxiaEuxine that put two stormtroopers aside vader) or even he escorts luke back to the death star(in the del scenes)
The question is that an unexpected visit from vader can cause a parade then why not every time vader lands somewhere have the suitable parade.
contradiction?
-Angel-Berry
This "boring" monitor screen will be replaced with a decent one.
When available and possible the monitors will be replaced/enhanced. Retros are gone.
-Angel
Sevb32 said:
That SE docking bay shot looked really good though, wonder if it could be used for the shot where Vader docks at the beginning of ROTJ? The underbelly of the SD would have to be removed and the framing around the bay entrance.
-Angel
Indeed :)
I was on the Moons of Lego.
I will be occasionally here too as well checking when something is interesting.
Im curious and ecstatic with your work mr J and cant wait what you will try and post/try/test next!
-Angel and Blue
Well the use of CG on a practical way and not for cheap ways of avoiding money spending is an other thing. I like you are using both ways (CG and props). It actually might help with the PT:R thing.
If it can used right (see ANH:R and ESB:R) it can save time of building and animate stuff with the old ways.
Id love to see some alternative takes or even remastered original ones with CG such as millenium falcon straight flybys or light incosistences or even some poor shots such as the falcon flies above the SD surface before it passes from Needa's bridge.
-Angel
doubleofive said:
All or Nothing" edit. redo the entire battle of Yavin in CG.
You put it right, along with everything else that looks boring and slow.
Mr J: you just nailed the shot!!!
Cant wait what the other shots can look. Shots like when vader turns his head fast to the dude who says "any attack will be a useless..." or when vader says "what do you mean" to tarkin.
Bring more radical changes for good!!!
-Angel
Some interesting takes on some of the shots you showed us here ady.
I like you went to a 3d way solution rather build props for the transports. hoping for more 3d action for sure :)
It can be interesting seeing some ships coming out of the hangar cave(if its kept) or some distant smokes behind the mountains from the aftermath.
-Angel
Fair enough:)
I had to express my thoughts to get a feedback from the other side :D
Noble and wise as always Bingo :)
-Blue
By me lol :P
-Angel
JaaayDee said:
So what is Adywan planning to do with all the holography and advanced display screens so flamboyantly portrayed in the prequels? They're literally everywhere: from cockpit interiors, building interiors, to Coruscant. Is he just going to erase them, make them look less shiny, or replace them with the old 70's look in the OT by somehow inserting those ancient monitors and knobs?
This is not Adywan's exclusive topic.
Check:
Also check Bob Garcia's Edit
He will take care issues like this ;)
-Angel
JaaayDee said:
vaderios said:
For more PT alternations and changes ideas Follow this:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Prequel-Radical-Redux-Ideas-Thread/topic/9911/
Ideas for ESB and ROTJ future edits follow this:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ESB-and-ROTJ-Wishlist/topic/8826/
-Angel
Try now
Vader is asymmetrical in every movie apart ROTS. Its common that you cant achieve symmetry with non computer sculpting. thats the beauty and the set back at the same time.
Other plans are removing the useless guards inside the the conference room.
Unless they are floor managers that drag the dead bodies it have no purpose being there.
Further ideas: when Luke han and chewie are on the elevators , in the far shot( the one with the matte) if you think the layout a bit you will notice that the big hole at the right with the half extended bridges makes no sense.
So removing the doors/bridges whatever and adding a ROTJ or TMP reactor like pole in the midde. meaning that we have to expand the shot to the right and pan it back to our heroes. Subtle changes will not affect the lightning settings(maybe a slow flickering just for the sake of it). The station needs more powerful shots and more industrial look.
Working with large scales with small rooms it brakes the illusion of vastness but tho it creates claustrophobic results. Well you have to sacrifice some to gain some others.
-Berry and Blue
Welcome here :)
Ady said that the Holos will get a downgrade to the PT so it will look similar or even more old than OT ones.
Some screens will get some subtle enhancements.
Funny you mention MF interiors..
For more PT alternations and changes ideas Follow this:
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Ideas for ESB and ROTJ future edits follow this:
-Angel
I see you dont like ROTS vader for some reason.. What a perfect symmetry amd flat lenses...
I really understand and dont get at the same time people that like asymmetry that vader and other troops had in all OT movies.
Vader is a cold machined shadow lord that dont need to look or sound pissed( see ANH mask) but something that kills and hides any kind of expression or emotion.
Never liked the cheap gesture he does like an offended bitch when he is trying to interrogate leia in tantive.
Nor the fact that he leans forward to choke the imperial officer.
Ignore any fact of nostalgia or childhood memories and see how a shot can be more powerful :)
Lines such 'vader's leash' and tarkin commands vader must be cut. Maybe alter them so Tarkin is under vader's leash.
-Angel
Ady: When vader tries to hit Luke before they go to gantry vader hits the walls while they are walking out the small hall. The explosions from the vader's saber have a small delay from the actual hit. Will you fix it?
-Angel
Damn the party pooper is here :(
Where is hotrod?
We do see the blur as well ;) see it as concept in the works
Dont tempt me to replace ANH vader with ROTS's one ;) thats more like it ;)
The fact that Mr J proved that slowing down vader can work as well is a concept that alters the personality of ANH vader as well. What is left is to redub him.
I have a few ideas cutting down the harsh 70s lines with more calm and less fairytaily :) Now its more ESBing ANH ;)
-Angel
GOOD LORD!!!!!!!!
MR J IS WITH MY TEAM. BACK OFF FUTURE EDITORS!!!!!!!!
Deep respect. i have nothing to say... Everything is possible now!
-Angel,Blue and Berry salutes you
46fleetline said:
if i could do editing and knew all this fancy computer lingo and stuff, i would be making edits all the time.
What is stopping you from learning how to do it? ;)
-Angel,Berry and Blue
Thats great :D
Cant wait what you will come with :D
-Berry and Angel
Comparing OT with PT you can clearly see that the sun is almost visible in the various space shots when in OT is not.
but when the MF arrives to the DS we see a lens flare behind it.
Like ady added yavin it could be interesting adding sun in several shots that light appears coming from nowhere.
Same goes to PT too removing the sun to match with the retro fact and so on.
@Mr J: I was wondering if you can play with vader movements in ANH.
A few examples are when he interrogates The rebel dude in tantive he turns his head way to fast for ESB vader standards. As well in the next shots that he is yelling he is moving too fast. Considering the fact making him less like a coffee freak and more as a lord we know in ESB many of his moving can be slowed down. No idea if this can work.
-Angel and Blue
Jaitea said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0a3NtKOkzg
J
Hey! That works ace! I really love the way you thinking mr J ;) I couldnt figure the transition. Flawless :D
As for the DS explosion i d love to see an extensive surface damage from inside out. Why again we dont have star destroyers in the battle? Maybe we can adress that the fleet is missing and the rebels have not only the hurry to strike before the DS is in range but the fleet will come to defend the station.
Maybe also we can have the fleet arrives at the end and got blown away from the DS explosion.
THere is a nice clip from TFU that shows a graveyard of star destroyers.
-Angel