Master Qui-Gon said:Yeah some look good, but the whole movie shouldn't be so dark. For example the jedi archives are way too dark.
Imagine like the prequels were cheap and the production team wanted to hide the missing set extentions or bad mattes :P
That is the idea
-Angel
I don't remember who mention it that the exterior is supposed to be bigger compare with the interior !
The perspective is screwed up
Don't mind some visible paintings i was in rush
-Angel
Sluggo said:I am digging that mock-up of the Carbon Freezing chamber, vaderios. Is there enough room there for Luke to jump off the edge? He isn't going to hit any beams, right?
No idea what you mean :P! Not any beams.
-Angel
At first that was my thought. "just desaturation". But no. It need more than desaturation to match the tones so the image can show you that is real and not washed up :)
Also the darken thing is more for 80s simulation film. And point to eye the action.
-Angel
Johnny Ringo said:IMO a lot of the shots look good, but just too dark. maybe try ease off a bit on the darkness contrast and see what you come up with? My concern is that it might be a bit hard on the eyes after 2+ hours.
Yep you are right. Just only think how black was ANH. And ofc I took some certain shots of these movies. Not the whole movie needs darken up :) So its some short of balanced
-Angel
PS: lol Bingowings >_<
Well one more spaming wave of pics :P
I was amazed when I was corecting the droid factory scene!
I thought I was watching ALIEN or some sci fi horror movie! With all the clown colors out and some darkness to reduce this optical chaos, so the eye is focusing on the action, its a new movie back to 70s 80s! :)
Also the clone facility, i was toying with this shot to get something good.The result as you can see, it has a more model-like feeling.
Other notes: Palpatine's office much more balanced and dark that gives a + to this scene.
The monster in the arena is not more like Rancor colors and mood.
The jedi temple is now more like some paintings of retro scifi magazines.
I hope to enjoy it and !'m glad to give ideas for edits :)
-Angel
Nah. Besides i dont have the Pc power or any skills for editing programs :P
I ll stay to my loyal Photoshop and its good to give ideas to others :)
-Angel
I play a bit with some screencaps from the Prequels. If we want to talk about how the PT and OT conected, at least talk about the color boost in the PT. So i made some adjustments to reduce colors and add the shadows, to feel like retro and not everything is visible!
Sorry for the page stretch:
Comment if you like. This is my aproach of coloring :) It hasnt to be perfect.
-Angel
I see them from the artistic point of view :D
-Angel
Acordind with the Complete locations book, the whole position of the chamber makes some sense...
Notice the number 3
If this brings more comfusio, note that at least gives some other possible locations of the chamber...
Who knows :)
-Angel
How many fan edits have Matte Artists?
No idea 005 :P
-Angel
The good with the paintings is that they are fast.
The diference with the mattes is it needs time.
Monroville: I really like the concepts you make. But Ady will be the final judge of what is in or not :)
I try to make your ideas with more detail just for fun and for brainstorming!
-Angel
I was execute MonroVille's idea!?
I just tried with a fast concept:
Very quick not perfect...
-Angel
I believe this fall should be more interesting if it will be more extended.
The A wing hit the bridge,
Long - establishing shot: We see Executor falling with some ships below it starting to taking evading manuvers. Battle in the background.
Close shot from below: We see the Executor smash some SDs to its pass and some other ships trying to escape ( we can take some good footage from executor revealing from below, the SD that chasing Han after the arrival from the asteroid.)
Medium Shot from behind: We see a damaged and with all flames executor points the death star. ( good actual footage from ESB executor just before veers report to Vader, death star angle from ROTJ before the scene - I've told you to remain to the command ship- and some elements from Invisible hand fall from ROTS.
Shot from Ackbar's view: (actual scene) that he sees the ship falls to its doom.
Wide shot: the Executor enters and hits the DS. Some remains of the other damaged ships hits the surface of the Death star. Battle in the distance.
Medium shot: We see the death star taking a bit damage and several pieces of different size flying away ( elements and idea from TPM when the battleship is exploding from inside).Battle in the distance.
Inside the death star shot: (actual scene) Stormies running and the whole image is shaking from the hit. Maybe some smoke-sparks- explosions elements.
:)
-Angel
WOW Monroville! I Like it a lot this schematic! make more sense , I love it!
But tell me how can I help? I mean how can I alter the matte?
-Angel
Ady, I hope you already noticed the bad matte-perpespective here:
See the balcony :)
-Angel
PS: In the second pic you posted Ady i believe vader needs a little reflection.
I believe these Carbonite Chamber Gantry ways are meant to be like these in concept art. But like in ANH when the heroes are trying to save leia the tunel has a matte painting at its end that when you see it from diferent angle it brakes the illusion of the perespective and the Depth of field. (corrected in SE) Like this so, these gantry ways should look. Maybe with some new mattes?
-Angel
The whole smashing idea of executor hits an other capital shit and all the remain pieces hit DS sounds cool!
Good idea!
-Angel
Yup i knew that someone will notice the how big explosion is.
I was making a point to show the damage :)
The explosion of course is smaller (damn Michael Bay)
-Angel
First I wanted to add a more intense to Executor's fall in to the death star for the ROTJ:R
In the first pic I erase the death star surface so the executor take a bigger angle and speed.
Also I chanced the light direction to match with the follow shot.
In the second pic you can see that I altered the surface with an incomplete one and the ship is going little deeper in the star.
Plus some other action in the bg
3d pic, I thought after a massive ship fall into the death star a cool thing is a big piece to fly apart (like in TPM,trade federation battleship)so the damage will be more fatal ( one SSD down - agood hit to DS)
thats for now.
These are my ideas for ROTJ for the executor fall
later
-Angel
I know Ady will rerotoscope all the saber but i couldnt resist :)
-Angel
I believe the new shot of Vader is from ROTS repainted- flipped with new elements and retro ESB style + the officers.
Very impressive!
-Angel
PS to Monroville: I think Ady said that a good idea for death in ROTJ is lando. He cant escape the death star fire and he dies in it. I like it.
How is possible that the MF travels all along the side of the executor, reaches the nose and vader can see them so big from the bridge? Not only the distance but the MF is not possible to be visible from the bridge cause of the diferent position of the ship. Impfighter correct me if im wrong :)
@Ady: Ok with the matte. I ll be here if you need my help :)
-Angel
Yep i can do it. Just tell me if you need HD or dvd quality. Because i dont have HD starwars in my PC so let me know :)
later
-Angel