Anchorhead

TheBoost said:

"The Caped Crusader."

Well done.   Much better than The Dark Knight Rises.

xhonzi said:

In what way did you for once completely agree with Anchorhead?  That he only avowed the existance of the 1968 original or that you do?

For the record;  I don't dislike the Apes sequels to the point of completely ignoring their existence.  I just don't own them.  I'll watch them if they come on cable. 

As long as he's seen Inception.

I have not, sir.

ChainsawAsh said:

In case you're curious about the specific differences:

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=5293652

"You finally did it!....Oh, damn you IT dept !!!"

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;-)

Objection!!  Prosecution is leading the jury.

If it pleases the court;

I own & like all the Indiana Jones films, own & like all but two James Bond films, own & like three Star Trek films, and two Batman films.  Not counting some others I may have forgotten just now, I own & fully approve of at least 27 sequels.

CP3S said:

For as little and as non-offensively as you post, and as non-confrontational as you are, I find it kind of humorous how often you seem to find yourself unwittingly in these kinds of situations.

I know, man. I don't get it.

and my desires to die young...ish. Hmmm, maybe I should start taking smoking more seriously...

Man, don't even joke about that.  The journey is wonderful. For me, the essence of who I am didn't even start until I was thirty.

When I was a kid, there was this event on TV one time called Go Ape.  I think it was all the films as a marathon. It's fairly common to do that sort of a thing now, but back when there were only five TV channels and they went off the air at midnight, it was a big deal.

-edit-

I was wrong, it wasn't on TV, it was at the theaters. The TV marathon was only the first three films.  I found an article about it; 

The spur for finally starting production of a TV show was in September 1973, when the CBS network bought the television broadcast rights to the first three Planet of the Apes films for $1 million and showed them in a row on prime time screens. The broadcast registered a 33.6 Nielsen rating and a 57 per cent share of the audience to capture the number one spot in the ratings race for that week, and the highest ratings in history for a sci-fi series up to that time. In response, CBS soon aired the movies again in its 'Friday Night Movie' slot, while 20th Century Fox began showing all five Apes films in back-to-back six-hour "Go Ape!" marathons in movie theatres in the first half of 1974.

CP3S said:

Anchorhead said:

Regarding Apes;  1968 original only for me...

 

WHAAAAA??? How is that possible!!! And you call yourself an Apes fan!!! If all you care about is the one movie, what the hell are you doing posting on a Planet of the Apes forum??? 

To the reply and the edit.  ;-)

^ 

  ;-)

*And for the record;  I'm struggling with that chart.

CP3S said:

Bingowings said:

She sounds like an average smoker of her day...

 

Wow, the Pontiff here isn't going to let this go until he's got Anchor convinced, is he?

I know, man.  Only problem is - I can't figure out what he's trying to convince me of. I've explained it as clearly as I can and hardly ever give it a moment's thought these days

???

Regarding Apes;  1968 original only for me.  However, I think the reveal in Escape is a fantastic scene. "Gentlemen, welcome to the United States Of....."

Escape is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me.  I'll watch it if I happen to stumble across it on cable.

Regarding the Batman title; I'm with Boost on this one.  Rise has been worn out.  I'm surprised they weren't more inventive. Truth be told,  I have that same feeling about Catwoman & Bane.  But we'll see.  Nolan may surprise me and pull one out of a hat.

Gaffer Tape said:

... it gives me the visual image of those codpieces from the Schumacher films...

Oh, that's nice,  just the image I needed with my morning coffee.

;-)

Bingowings said:

There seems to be a bit more to things than just her smoking.

No, just the smoking.  Fine otherwise.  To clarify;  When I said I didn't feel particularly sorry about the diagnosis, I don't mean that it wasn't taken as bad news.  I meant in terms of being shocked or devastated.  It wasn't a good phone call to get, but it was hardly unexpected.  A pack a day for 45 years has consequences.

Bingowings said:

(though I am a lot older than you by the sound of things)

 

It's horrible what you have been through, it's no joke to have a parent die young

I just have issues with her attitude and selfishness with smoking throughout our lives as kids.  I don't care what she did after I moved out.  It wasn't my decision to make, nor was I too concerned.  I knew how she felt about it.

Other than that, we were close-ish.  Maybe not like some parent\child relationships, but we talked on the phone occasionally and I went back to Houston for Christmas most years, when I lived in New York during the 80s. Probably a somewhat average relationship.  Not a bad one at all.

She wasn't that young when she died, 66 I think (not 65 as I said earlier).

I'm 49, by the way.

*edit*

Just asked my wife.  My mom was 69 when she died. It was 2005. Seems a lot longer ago than that. 

Warbler said:

keep in mind, twenty years ago, we did not know as much about second hand smoke as we do today. 

50 years ago - maybe.  20 years ago - people knew.  My mother chose to ignore it, just as she did her doctor's advice to not smoke when she was pregnant with us.  More times than I can count, I heard her say  through the years when recanting her doctor's advice in the 60s - "he warned me not to smoke while I was pregnant - but I did anyway -  and you turned out fine".

That was the cavalier attitude I was referring to earlier. Ignore the advice, hope for the best, smile when mentioning she was right and there was nothing to worry about.  I never felt terribly sorry for her when she was diagnosed.  She'd known the risks for decades and she'd been warned and asked to quit a hundred times over.  Instead, she openly ignored the risks and the requests.  Her cancer was self-inflicted.  But I've always had an issue with her making that same decision for me.

That's why I spent my childhood & teenage years clearing the air in my bedroom.  I had to do whatever I could.  I did it for the smell, but the air was cleaner by default.  I like to think it helped. At least I hope it did.

Gaffer Tape said:

Interestingly, that's the reason my former roommate gave me for why she had smoked when she was younger.  According to her, since your body just recovers from it anyway, why not enjoy yourself in your twenties by smoking?  I admit I didn't get it.  And I suppose that precludes that you will stop at some point...

I go for a full physical every summer - CBC, stress test, EKG, prostate exam, etc.  During the last physical, I was talking to my doctor about the smoking info\chart\timeline she has in there.  She said a person isn't considered truly a non-risk for smoking-related lung cancer until they've been out of a smoking environment for 15 years. 

She said that while it's true that some things start to heal the same day, that there are other things that take your body much longer to repair.  That means I wasn't really out of danger until I was 33 years old (moved out when I was 18).  Man, that's a sobering thought of what my mother subjected us to. Honestly, that's something I never gave her a pass on.  That was selfish on her part.  It's fine if she wanted to ignore the dangers for herself, but she ignored them for me also.

Dave Matthews Band - Jimi Thing

Chainsaw, I really hope you make it work.  I've never smoked and never had any thoughts of starting.  I attribute that to growing up in a household where both parents smoked. For as long as I can remember throughout my childhood, I always had my bedroom door closed and my window open - no small feat in the Houston summers.

I just couldn't stand the smell. Dinners, family road trips, everywhere, all the time.  My father quit, cold turkey, when I was about 15.  My mom - no way.  She'd been at least a pack-a-day since she was 14 and had no interest in quitting.  In fact, she had a sort of cavalier attitude about it.  12 years ago she was diagnosed with lung cancer, treatments were somewhat successful, but it had already metastasized to her brain. She only lived seven more years.

I watched her gurgle her last few breaths, before becoming comatose, looking much older than her 65 years. I honestly can't figure out why people still do it.  I find it particularly strange that people only in their twenties smoke.  It's no longer a maybe it's bad for you deal.  All I can figure is that maybe it's because it's such a slow process.  People seem to have plenty of time to joke - "you gotta go sometime".  That was a favorite saying of a co-worker of mine, after he'd already had one lung removed. He died about 5 years ago, in his late fifties. I couldn't comprehend that one at all.

Anyway, my point with the whole deal is that I hope you succeed.

I've seen a list just like this one at my doctor's office.  Very interesting how fast your body starts to recover.

http://www.everydayhealth.com/smoking-cessation/immediate-and-long-term-benefits.aspx

EyeShotFirst said:

I haven't ever seen her in a role like this before.

I'm familiar with who she is but I've never seen her in anything, so this will be my introduction to her as an actress. 

Johnny Ringo said:

So, they are either good...or they are done by Tim Burton? ;)

Honestly, I put down the first two films that jumped out to me as terrible remakes. Swear.  ;-)

In the interest of not singling out Burton, these two also come to mind;  Bad News Bears & The Taking Of Pelham 1 2 3. 

Both seemed to have singled out the part of the story that appeals most to profit margins (understandable), but completely lost the emotional & cerebral side of the films - which make the originals (to me) much better films. 

Warbler said:

True Grit....I have no idea about 3:10 To Yuma, I've never seen either version......Casino Royale...I have no idea if  it is better than the  1954 Climax version(I betting its not). 

*edit*

Comment removed.  Not worth the trouble.

I don't really have strong feelings on remakes one way or the other. They're either as good or better than the original; 3:10 To Yuma, Ocean's 11, Batman Begins, Casino Royale*, Star Trek09, True Grit - or they're bad; Planet Of The Apes, Willy Wonka.

I'm not big on the term reboot, because it seems to be nothing more than a new way to market a film, to give it some sort of gravitas beyond remake. 

*Casino Royale may be the one instance where I understand the need for a more thorough description because some of the characters or situations were kept current (M, the world dynamic, calendar), while some were started over (007 and his status in MI6).

For the record; Batman Begins, Casino Royale, Star Trek09, & True Grit are all films which, to me, far surpassed earlier versions.  In the case of Casino Royale, for me it far surpasses all other 007 films.  That's coming from a lifetime 007 uber-nerd.

I guess my point with all of this is that better is better.  Time made has nothing to do with it.

Bob Dylan - Someday Baby

doubleofive said:

...and some people who only acknowledge the original Terminator and complain that T2 made the universe too small... ;-)

 

Could you at least wait until I've left the room?

;-)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/01/anne-hathaway-to-play-catwoman-in-next-batman-movie/1

Thoughts?

I don't know much about Hathaway or Hardy and I'm not a big fan of too many characters in a Batman film.  Hopefully it won't be as busy as Dark Knight was.

none said:

Poking through my copy the first significant contribution I find is the Luke/3po bit:

LUKE
Well, not unless you can alter
time, speed up the harvest, or
teleport me off this rock!

THREEPIO
I don’t think so, sir. I’m only
a droid and not very knowledgeable
about such things. Not on this
planet, anyways. As a matter of
fact, I’m not even sure which
planet I’m on.

LUKE
Well, if there’s a bright center
to the universe, you’re on the
planet that it’s farthest from.

THREEPIO
I see, sir.

LUKE
Uh, you can call me Luke.

THREEPIO
I see, sir Luke.

LUKE
(laughing)
Just Luke.

THREEPIO
And I am See-Threepio, human-cyborg
relations, and this is my counterpart,
Artoo-Detoo.

All that is accredited to Katz/Huyck.

Without a doubt, one of my absolute favorite passages from the film.  It really grabbed me when I was a kid, really reinforced that I was on the adventure of a lifetime.  It felt a million miles from home, yet strangely comfortable at the same time.  A  fantastic part of the film for me.