Anchorhead

But the Empire isn't deadthrawn.

;-)

The Winchester House is a very fitting analogy to Lucas and Star Wars. 

darth_ender said:

 I thus encourage anyone who wishes to impersonate me to go ahead and do so, as you will not be penalized.

That is an incorrect statement.

SilverWook said:

 

Jedi mucks all of this up a bit by having Ben walk around and sit on a log. 

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Man, just how much of Return have I forgotten?  ;-). 

Back on topic; I can't see how they'll ignore half of the films, no matter how much I wish they would.

Same for me.  I suppose there were film series considered franchises before Star Wars (planet Of The Apes comes to mind), but it doesn't seem like it was quite the behemoth until the past 20 years or so.

I'm sure the studios were ecstatic when a film grew into one.  However, it seems like they're created specifically with that as the goal now. Canon becomes much more important now because of it.  At least to the licensing arms of the rights holders anyway.  

Just what those words mean.  To some fans, if the stories and characters in the novels aren't acknowledged by the owner of the franchise as canon, they don't accept them.

darklordoftech said:

if those neo-nazis took over the territory once ruled by nazi germany, the deaths of the allied soldiers would be totally meaningless. 

What about the past 70 years without Nazi rule?  Millions of people have lived their entire lives free and without worry.  That's far from meaningless.

*edit*

Sorry, didn't realize Reegar had already addressed this.

RicOlie_2 said:

There are Doctor Who novels?!

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Shroud_of_Sorrow_(novel)

Back on topic; Star Wars no longer being Lucas, plus having Abrams at the helm of the new film has put me back wanting to start Scoundrels again. The franchise seems alive and interesting again.  I'll keep the board posted.

Reegar said:

 without having to refer to Obscure Series #54, Page 259.

Dude, spoiler alert!

;-)

RicOlie_2 said:

Anchorhead never did get around to writing a review on Scoundrels...

I never finished it.  After I got sidetracked, I decided to start over.  I'm finishing up a Doctor Who novel and then back to Star Wars. 

Tack said:

Sorry, I'm just a bit annoyed about all of the discussions going on here about supplementary material, when it really shouldn't matter. If you don't like it, there's no rule that explicitly says you have to accept it as any kind of fact.

That's exactly why I wanted to have this discussion.  We've had plenty of discussions about what people accept as official (or not).  I'm curious as to why,  because to some fans it's a very big deal.

Your use of the term supplemental is interesting. Plenty of fans see anything non-film as supplemental. 35 years in, there are 295 books written by 79 authors. Plus there are numerous games and comics, all officially licensed publications by Lucasfilm. Compared to just six films, we have moved far beyond supplemental.

What I can't grasp is why some fans don't accept that vast amount of material as legitimate. The entire entity is fiction.  Why is there a need for some fans to have some parts of it be seen as more official than others?

We've had all manner of canon discussions here over the years.  What is, what isn't, personal, official, etc.  I've jumped in and mine is fairly well documented also. I have my own Personal Canon, but I really only use the term to easily show what part of the franchise I follow.

So many long-running franchises have multiple sources for stories by multiple writers.  Novels, films, games, audio, etc.  In the grand scheme of things, none of this is real.  It seems weird to me to try to claim any of it has some sort of gravitas. 

It is, however, a very big deal to some people. Fan boards have some very strong beliefs and some very heated discussions concerning Official Canon.

The dictionary definition says canon is "a sanctioned or accepted group or body of related works".  To me, if it has been released as a film, a novel, or any other form under the license of a franchise, it's canon. Period.  That seems to fly in the face of Lucas, who has some sort of document proclaiming the levels of canon. 

That's completely laughable to me, but not surprising since Lucas has always been a control freak. Not even remotely surprised he would attempt to tell the fan base what's real and what's not real.  Particularly laughable since he made his film stories up as he went along.

I'm curious because I don't care in the least. I read what I like, I ignore the rest.   A question to the board; Do you care about Official Canon, and if so, why?

*edit*

Rereading my post, I realized it may sound like I want to know how someone could be concerned with official canon, as if it were somehow wrong to be so.  It's not at all.  I'm just curious as to why it's different for some fans (concerned, not concerned).

You may or may not remember my nerd friend whom I posted about several months ago.  Anyway, she sent me this link.  Not her designs, but she's making some for her house.  Thought some of you may want to give them a try.  I think the sand people flake is particularly well done.

http://www.anthonyherreradesigns.com/index.php/8-ahd-blog/8-star-wars-snowflakes-2013

LOVED it! The story, Ten, Bad Wolf - all of it. Loved the quick peek at 12, and thought Baker was particularly well played. Great, great. Will be watching it again in about an hour.

A definite 5 out of 5 Cup-A-Soups.

SilverWook said:

Well, that's a Snake River Canyon sized leap of logic! ;)

Dude!  Nice Evel Knievel reference!

I agree, by the way.  As much as we all have hopes for the tangents we want the next film to follow, I doubt anything from the past will be completely ignored. 

imperialscum said:

SWTOR game was the only decent Star Wars thing that came out in the last 7-8 years.

Lucas selling the franchise would like a word with you.

Tobar said:

I'm done with Force users in general. We need more non-Jedi content. It's a big galaxy out there.

Totally agree.  Time to move away from Jedi\Sith\Jedi\Sith\Jedi\Sith\Jedi\Sith\Jedi\Sith\

Time to repair the shrunken universe.  Time for Big Bang II.

Fucking awesome to see McGann as the Doctor again.  To me, he's always really looked the part of a deep, aloof Doctor.  Nice that he name-checked his companions from the audio stories to bring them into canon.  

http://www.opencastingcall2013.com/

Only six cities.  The page doesn't say it's Star Wars, but it's the link they gave on the local news.

http://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/casting-for-starwars-in-austin

O.M.G. 

Bad Wolf Rose and Clara with what looks like a vortex manipulator.  Come on 11-23.

That is a very interesting story.  Can't help but wonder how far reaching her influence would have been. Of course, you can't get much further reaching than C3PO in global pop culture.  As Bingo said, what a tragic loss.

Bingowings said:

The BBC make Doctor Who with license payers money and they give out convention exclusives.

 

There is a fair amount of angst over that on the Doctor Who board I'm on.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Guess-The-Title-Of-Episode-VII-just-for-fun/topic/14899/

Jaitea said:

......but that interview.... she is HOT!!

And that voice...

"Carrie, will you read me a bed time story?"........

Wolfman said:

Carrie Fisher interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X21Fp2aw9js

 

Maybe it's because I've been on board since the beginning and that's how she was introduced to me as a character as well as an actress, but I cannot reconcile who she was back then with who she is now.  It's a transformation I simply cannot wrap my head around.