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#254545
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Official Star Wars newsletter from 1978
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254545/action/topic#254545
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My real point with posting this was to point out how the whole "I started at episode four" crap was just more revisionist history on George's part. He makes up elaborate back stories about stuff that never even happened. The crap about he decided to leave episode four off of the opening title - then in a different interview, it was the studio that wanted it off. All the while, here's his official newsletter stating Star Wars was the first in the series - not number four. Even after the sequel was announced, it still isn't number four, nor is Empire number five.

He makes up so many different versions of the past and insists that they are the truth - often times when they aren't even the same versions - and when there's documented proof of what really happened. Yet, his followers will just drink up anything he says. They even defend his lies - while there's documented, published evidence that he's a liar.

His ability to manipulate his fans - as well as their unwillingness to think for themselves - is disturbing. He has them so brainwashed that they even imagine their own versions of what must have happened, just so it matches whatever he's gagged up in his latest interview.

Sad.
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#254505
Topic
Official Star Wars newsletter from 1978
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254505/action/topic#254505
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From the Official Star Wars Fan Club newsletter of May 1978;
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"Star Wars Sequel
On February 23rd, it was announced that Star Wars Corporation will begin production on the sequel to Star Wars this summer. The title has not been selected yet, but it will not be Star Wars II.

Based on the second of twelve stories in George Lucas’s Adventures of Luke Skywalker series, the first draft of the screenplay was written by Leigh Brackett."
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He claims to have started at episode number 4 of 6 - or - 4 of 9, depending on which interview he happened to give over the years. Yet, here in his official newsletter, it specifically states that Star Wars was number 1 of 12.

That's odd - mid 1978 and still no mention of Episode 4. You'd think that having decided against putting Episode 4 on the opening titles of Star Wars - err, uh, I mean - having been forced by the studio to leave it off of the opening titles, that he would have at least mentioned it in his sequel announcement.
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#254428
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McCallum on Jar Jar & Kids before TPM came out
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254428/action/topic#254428
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Originally posted by: JamesEightBitStar
I still don't see where the hate is coming from. Go-Mer isn't making me like the Prequel Trilogy, but I am thinking about them in ways I hadn't before.

A sign of an experienced troll - make a few allies of some of the more naive members. Makes it harder to get banned and allows the troll longer to disrupt the board, steer the conversations, and contaminate the discussions.

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#254406
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George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254406/action/topic#254406
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Let me try this again Gomie, try to follow along...

From the interview posted today – he decided people wouldn't understand the numbering system

From the interview posted a few weeks ago – he stated it was the studio that forced him to drop the number from the title

At the very least - one of those is a lie. From everything printed, filmed, saved, and published pertaining to the film The Star Wars up to and including 1977 - it appears that both of them are.
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#254372
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George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254372/action/topic#254372
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Star Wars was the fourth story in the saga and was to have been called "Star Wars, Episode Four: A New Hope." But I decided people wouldn't understand the numbering system...

I'll have to go back and find it from a couple of weeks ago, but there was a quote where he stated it was the studio that forced him to drop the number from the title. Never mind that the pre-production literature, letterheads, and media packages all had the title The Star Wars printed on them - no number. As did the clapboard during filming.


Man, he can't even decide on a single lie and stick to it. Listening to Lucas discuss the past is like reading an article after it's passed through The Ministry of Truth. It changes so often, that it's hard to keep up with. He has so many of the younger fans so clouded on what really happened in the 70s, that they have no choice but to believe whatever version of the past he's belching today.

Pathetic.

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#254171
Topic
McCallum on Jar Jar & Kids before TPM came out
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254171/action/topic#254171
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
How about Reservoir Dogs?.

Haven't seen it. Don't care for Tarantino's stuff. Too much work just to watch his movies. The guy could probably do some great work but he seems completely caught up in style over substance - shock over story. "I don't have a real story, so I'll just make the movie so violent and bloody that people will actually vomit in the theater - it'll be awesome".

The non-linear timeline of Pulp Fiction was interesting, but not when it's every damn scene. I don't want to have to work that hard. Again - not enough story to tell, so he just hacks-up the timeline, adds ridiculous amounts of blood and over-the-top violence - style over substance.



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#254141
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McCallum on Jar Jar & Kids before TPM came out
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254141/action/topic#254141
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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
Wasn't an earlier Hitchcock film, Rope, also in just one setting?

Yes it was. It was also shot in real time. Each scene lasting between 7 and 10 minutes (10 was the length of a reel of film). The walls of the set were on wheels so they could be moved once they were out of the shot, to allow for the continuous takes, and moved back when they were about to come back into the shot.

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#254121
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McCallum on Jar Jar & Kids before TPM came out
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254121/action/topic#254121
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Truthfully - Star Wars is most likely the only movie of the six that I'll ever see again. I might watch Empire sometime in the future, but I'm in no hurry. Even it shows that Lucas had no more story to tell.

D.E. - I'm right there with you on set pieces. Especially where film is concerned. I love films that take place in a single location. One of my absolute favorites is Rear Window. Jefferies can't leave his one room apartment - so neither can the viewer. Great stuff! Of course, you have to have one hell of a story to pull it off. The frustration with not being able to stop the murder, the fear that he may have been seen, the feeling of captivity - all of it is so perfectly executed.
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#254108
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McCallum on Jar Jar & Kids before TPM came out
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254108/action/topic#254108
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Originally posted by: vote_for_palpatine
did Star Wars fans watch the PT because they wanted to, or because they felt they had to?

Having been so disappointed by Return Of The Jedi when it was in the theaters, I'd given up on Star Wars as a series of films back in 1983.

I went to see Phantom Menace solely out of curiosity. I thought for sure it would, at the very least, be better than ROTJ. I was shocked at how juvenile it was.

I've not seen the last two.

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#254082
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Star Wars most inconsistent plot point, in my opinion: Star Wars Lethal Alliance game
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254082/action/topic#254082
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Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
... as with most of the "fixes," the execution was worse than the problem in the first place.

...there's no excuse for Lucas bungling this one. He's a cinema IDIOT!


I agree.
Two of his films (to me, at least) are great and I can watch them repeatedly - Star Wars and Raiders Of The Lost Ark. The rest of his work is mediocre at best. There's no denying he's had astronomical commercial success. However, that doesn't always indicate critical success or artistic ability. In fact, in this day and age, it almost guarantees mediocrity. McDonald's, Starbucks, and Reality TV shows - are a few examples that come to mind. These things make millions for their shareholders and are wildly popular - but none of them are any kind of high-water mark in their worlds.

Starbucks is open about not making the very best espresso - they readily admit that they strive only to make the one that appeals to the masses. Marketing does the rest. Want a really fantastic espresso? - go to an independent coffee house. Same with McDonald's - ok burger coupled with mass marketing. Want a great burger? - go to a smaller, independent place. Reality TV - it will only be remembered as a trend. Want a great TV program? - go buy a DVD of a much more intelligent show or look around on cable for something that took months to produce.

Lucas is no artist. He doesn't have to be - he's a hell of a businessman.


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#254032
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Star Wars most inconsistent plot point, in my opinion: Star Wars Lethal Alliance game
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254032/action/topic#254032
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
you'd have to think about it to find there's anything to think about it all, which is why I don't care about little things like that.

It goes back to what I've always believed about Lucas and Star Wars. He wrote A story. It made for one great film, a good sequel in most people's eyes, and an unnecessary third film that was weak. Not having done much else after that, comparatively - he decided to revive the franchise two decades later. However, instead of telling another story, he decided to keep trying to tell that same story. There wasn't really enough story to stretch through three films the first time around, so the next three films were really stretching his original story to it's limits.

Lucas isn't a good storyteller. So, he won't (or doesn't want to) stray away from his one successful story. Instead, he actually sits down and concerns himself with the back-story of completely meaningless details, of single scenes, from 25 year old films - it's embarrassing.

The back-story of how a box of parts was moved from one room to another - that's just pathetic.

Star Trek - a very successful, respected, decades-old franchise - has many different stories, characters, movies, shows, etc. They are separate stories, with separate adventures, different ships, planets, organizations, people, crew members, etc - taking place in different times. Picard doesn't have to have some pretzel-logic back-story that somehow connects him to Kirk. They went to the same academy - that's it, that's how the stories are connected. That's more than enough.

A great story, with interesting characters is vastly superior to a they're-somehow-connected-after-all-these-years story.

Why not have a story \ movie about Han as a young guy becoming a smuggler? - or a film about Lando as a pirate who ends up becoming a successful business owner with a shady past? You could have stand-alone films with a character or two that was familiar, but wasn't dependent on several other films to be complete, or meaningful, or fun to watch. People could use their imagination to connect the stories - or not, if they didn't want to. Either way, they'd have a great movie - a complete story - to watch.

Like they did in 1977.





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#253777
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Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253777/action/topic#253777
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Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
"Star Wars" - that's the entirety of my canon.
.

+1

It's all I own*. It's all I'll ever watch. The stuff that came after has been slowly fading away for the last ten years (the last time I saw Empire). Although, I did see the first of the prequels.

That piece of crap started to fade from memory as I was walking across the parking lot afterwards.

* - I have the Definitive laserdiscs but have no way to watch them. They'll be on eBay soon.

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#253753
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Star Wars most inconsistent plot point, in my opinion: Star Wars Lethal Alliance game
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253753/action/topic#253753
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Mark Hammil looked entirely different in ESB and ROTJ than he did in ANH.
http://www.starwars-tw.com/story/character/jedi/luke_skywalker.jpg http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/skywalk1.jpg
I shit you not.


Your trolling wouldn't seem so obvious if you had used a picture that hadn't been Photoshopped so poorly.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/skywalk1copy.jpg

There are unaltered pictures of him from the second film out on the internet.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/luke_skywalker1.jpg

I shit you not.

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#253705
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Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253705/action/topic#253705
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Originally posted by: Go-Mie
But "Canon", is something Lucas gets to decide because it's his universe.


Canon - can-on -n;

Standards accepted as axiomatic (true without having to be proven) and universally binding in a field of study or art.

Star Wars has become entirely too contaminated to have canon. Too many people have added to and altered the story over the years - particularly Lucas - for it to have any one accepted standard. Canon doesn't change just because the author goes through a divorce, has an argument with someone, becomes wealthy, has children, has writer's block, gets remarried, has an idea for a marketing tie-in, gets some new computer software, or any other of a myriad of reasons why they might want to change something 20 years later and then lie about it.

Star Trek has canon because there have been groups of people collaborating and providing a series of checks and balances when they decide storylines and films. They stay true to principals laid out in years past.

Star Wars films, on the other hand, are controlled by a single individual - power unchecked - who seems to change his mind and his stories every time something happens to him personally or whenever he gets a good idea for a toy, or can't come up with a story arc, etc.


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#253216
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Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253216/action/topic#253216
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Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen

But how can we give Steven Spielberg a pass when we want to hang George Lucas in efigy?

I don't give him a pass. In E.T., he edited out the police officers' guns and replaced them with walkie-talkies. That's as bad as some of Lucas' changes. It's also not nearly as realistic as it used to be. If there's ever a time when a being from another planet is messing around with our children - the cops will be armed with guns - not talking to each other on two-way radios. It weakened that scene.

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#253211
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Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253211/action/topic#253211
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
For the last time, people, if you're against changes being made in movies (or any type of art) be consistent!

I should mention, by the way, that I'm with Gaffer on this. Once a movie is released in the theater, it should be done. It enters the public domain at that point. I'm against any directors going back and CGIing in new footage, cleaning up shots, editing out mistakes, etc.

I bash on Lucas because he can't seem to stop doing it and he constantly lies about why he keeps doing it.