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#253151
Topic
Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253151/action/topic#253151
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei
To my knowledge, the only studio interference was the removal of "Episode IV A New Hope" in the opening crawl.

Another of his lies.

If the studio made him remove the title, post-production - why was it written out and referred to as The Star Wars during shooting and on pre-production documentation and early one-sheet artwork? Even reproductions of the early scripts published and printed as recently as the mid-90s had only these titles - "The Adventures of Luke Starkiller", "Journal of the Whills", and "The Star Wars".

The phrase A New Hope came into existence a few years after Star Wars was released, after a sequel was planned - not prior to the original release and then vetoed by studio execs.

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#253136
Topic
Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253136/action/topic#253136
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei
If Lucas really means what he said in that quote, I doubt he has much self respect.

I've always thought that very thing played a huge role in his ever-changing revisionist's-history BS of "what I really intended when I originally wrote the 9 - errr 6 - story double trilogy in the early 70s was...."

Having BSed and lied about statements for so long about so many of the aspects of his "original vision" and the goings on with the locations, budgets, directors, studio, etc, he has no choice but to stay the course with his lies about the past. He certainly can't come out 30 years later and say -

"There was never any grand vision, you guys have been right all along..."

"The Star Wars was just one story when I wrote it - a single 2 hour movie...."

"I know it's sounded more and more ridiculous with each new SE, but I kept digging myself in deeper with my lies..."

"I was making up stuff as I went along. The characters were never related to each other..."

"The marketing tie-ins decided major plot points..."

"I shouldn't have given all those magazine interviews back in the 70s. Too many people remember what I really said..."

"I shouldn't have tried to stretch a simple two hour film into a series of 6 films..."

He's so far down the revisionist's path, that he can't stop now.
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#252345
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For me...it all came out in the end...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252345/action/topic#252345
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
Go-Mer just pretends to care about the OOT preservation. He acts like he's on our side, while at the other time singing the praises of Lucas. These things totally contradict each other, and he tries to pass that off by saying he respects everyone's opinions. And he's never outright put down someone for liking the OOT, but that is his strategy.


"The so-called concern troll works to disrupt a forum by claiming to support its common cause but posting messages that promote the interests of the opposing cause.”

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#252144
Topic
Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252144/action/topic#252144
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
Why? What do you get out of it? Does it make you feel big? Does it bring you great joy? What is it that makes you do it?


Here's a lengthy explanation on internet trolls.

Troll article

Gomie is all but mentioned by name. There are several reasons why people do it but his seems to be a need for an identity - all attention (good or bad) is good attention. Control is another motivation. He steers the conversations - controls them - by inciting anger with his passive \ aggressive posts. He's also controlling the people that respond to him as well, by getting them so upset that they spend time trying to stop him. It's the only reason someone would join a board and constantly go against it's main theme. In fact, that behavior is mentioned specifically.

"The so-called concern troll works to disrupt a forum by claiming to support its common cause but posting messages that promote the interests of the opposing cause.”

He certainly falls into this category as well;

“Wasting others' time: One of the greatest themes in trolling is the idea that a troll can spend one minute of time posting a troll, causing multiple other people to waste several minutes of their time, catalytically affecting others. Most trolls enjoy the idea that they can waste others' time at comparatively little effort on their behalf.”

He's put up plenty of one and two word answers just to keep someone angry - just to keep the thread going.

Until he's banned, we'll have to suffer his presence. It's one of the drawbacks to internet discussions - the anonymity of the internet - "the safety of being out of range" as Roger Waters put it.

Gomie doesn't have to be concerned with being held accountable for his behavior. Online forums are just another form of entertainment for him, not unlike internet gaming. He just assumes a character identity and plays a part. If he were to behave in person the way he does here, angering and annoying people at the level he does, he'd get his teeth knocked out. On the internet, he's safe behind his keyboard.



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#251773
Topic
How do you watch the Star Wars Saga?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/251773/action/topic#251773
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Originally posted by: Go-Mie
Sucking off the PT isn't somethig to be ashamed of.
www.originaltrilogy.com

They are great movies
www.originaltrilogy.com

If everyone is allowed to have an opinion, then what's wrong with me having one too

www.originaltrilogy.com

Are you guys suggesting that I'm somehow sub human because I don't have such a mean spirited slant towards the prequels?

www.originaltrilogy.com

Troll somewhere else, kid. Your act is tired.

Actually, looking at the number of posts you've made in such a short time, maybe you should try spending some time outdoors for a change.


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#251535
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Remember when...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/251535/action/topic#251535
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Originally posted by: SKot
As far as the term "Star Wars geek" is concerned, I don't buy that being used back then either. That's something I never heard people say. There were "Trekkies" back then, but there was no term for people who just liked Star Wars, because that was nearly everybody. Sure, you had generic "nerds", and "geeks" a bit later on, but whether or not they liked Star Wars was irrelevant. It wasn't until the 90s Star Wars revival that tons of people started commonly collecting anything with the Star Wars name on it, dressing in Star Wars costumes, and waiting in big lines for the movies that there started to emerge a common perception of the "Star Wars geek".

I am willing to admit that it's possible things were a little different in your particular region, but I really think you're totally retconning here (to use a fanboy/geek term) and trying to change history, kind of like Uncle George likes to do.

--SKot

Good call, SKot.

Using the word geek as a suffix to describe someone wasn't common until the 90s. Prior to that, they would have just been called a geek, with no association to anything specific. More often, nerd was used. Even then, not as a suffix to a specific thing.

Gomer forgot which board he was trolling. This forum has people who were actually around in the 70s. Notice how he tried to amend the statement after you called him on it.

First he says maybe you never heard it, but he did. He then follows it with a statement that might generate a few more replys and take the focus off of his mistake - "I remember the old saying that the difference between...". He goes one step further and comments on his own statement (complete with smilies) to try and steer the conversation even further away from his original statement.

Again, good catch SKot.



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#250770
Topic
Lucas Interview from 1979 - Alan Arnold's 'Once Upon a Galaxy' book
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/250770/action/topic#250770
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Seems to be the same old George to me.

I agree. Only a few years after Star Wars, and he's already become an egotistical control freak that thinks he's the only one that can do it all correctly.

Also note that he specifically mentions the nine film triple trilogy that he now claims to have never mentioned - plus he says he added the other stories after Star Wars was made. What about that grand vision he had from the very start, before any of the films were made?

The only thing he's done from the very beginning is make up stuff as he goes along. No wonder he worked that into the Raiders Of The Lost Ark script.
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#249038
Topic
For Those who bought the Sept. 12th Release, Thoughts so far?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249038/action/topic#249038
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Originally posted by: Skyranger
I can't help but suspect that those who are COMPLETELY satisfied with this DVD version, and claim they will never buy another, never stood in line to see Star Wars in the theater in 1977.

You are incorrect where I'm concerned. I'm completely satisfied with this DVD version and I stood in line a couple of times a week back in the summer of 1977.

When I watch Star Wars, I'm watching, feeling, and being transported into that same adventure - that same story. The same one I stood in line for every week in 1977. Star Wars is emotional for me - not technical. It transcends the medium or the equipment showing it to me. It's bigger than that - much bigger. I don't see the TV screen or the DVD player, or the rest of the room for that matter.

I don't sit down and watch a DVD transfer process.

There are two ways I could handle this release - I could waste time bitching and moaning about what could have been \ should have been - or - I could let my imagination take me on that same far away adventure I went on when I was a kid in 1977.

I chose the latter.



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#248944
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For Those who bought the Sept. 12th Release, Thoughts so far?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248944/action/topic#248944
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I've now watched Star Wars more times (4) in the last 3 weeks than I had in the last 10 years. It's completely rekindled my love of the film. Honestly - I'd forgotten how much I love the movie. For more years than I can remember, it existed only in my memory and imagination - and in the soundtrack, which I listen to quite a bit. I've never seen anything SE-related because it's not the film\story\characters that I grew up with. So, for a really long time I just remembered every line, every scene, and every emotion while listening to the music. Now, I can experience them again, and I have been. It's been a great 3 weeks. None of the characters are related to each other and the universe is enormous.

Star Wars is back.
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#248107
Topic
Happy Birthday Mark Hamill - September 25th
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248107/action/topic#248107
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
Wouldn't it have been great if you'd gone on to bigger and better thangs like you're buddy Harrison Ford?

Like what? - The carbon copy man-standing-up-to-authority role that he plays in every film these days? Complete with the one, overly-assertive, stern-faced, line shown in the trailer for every one of those movies. It's always the turning point where the everyman that he always plays finally takes control of his situation...

"How dare you, sir!"

"Get off of my plane!"

"Give me back my wife!"

He's settled nicely into typecasting. A new Indiana Jones would be a welcome change.



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#247602
Topic
Ok. The OUT Covers for the UK- WHY!?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247602/action/topic#247602
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Originally posted by: casualimp
Complete ugliness but it's a bilingual law so custom covers all the way.

I've done it before on my James Bond set. The last film (Die Another Day) had a completely different spine than the other 19 - it was a late addition to the set just before they shipped. So, I just scanned one of the others and added a picture of Brosnan in the appropriate spot to match the other covers (all the spines have a small picture of whoever played 007 in that particular film), then cut-and-pasted the title in from a second scan so that it lined up with the others. Printed it to scale and it's indistinguishable as a one-of-a-kind.

My Star Wars DVD has a custom cover sleeve also. With desktop publishing software what it is these days, anything is possible. I use Photoshop professionally so my only limits are being able to find certain artwork on the internet. Took me a while to find a scan of the poster I used on the back of my cover.

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#245526
Topic
"BUT ANAMORPHIC ENHANCEMENT ALTERS THE MOVIES!!!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245526/action/topic#245526
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Originally posted by: Vigo
I mean, isn´t it pathetic to what extend some fanboys go to defend this release?

…anamorphic DVD´s and new digital transfers have become a ->STANDARD<- in the industry
Yes, anamorphic is the standard. Yes, the current standard and the format Lucas decided to use for this release of Star Wars are not the same. Someone accepting the format (regardless of the pretzel logic behind Lucas’ decision to use it) is NOT the same as defending it.

What exactly is it that you want people to do?
If someone doesn’t have a copy of the original version to watch and they would like to see it, this is the version they get to buy legally. It’s all Lucas is offering now – no matter how wrong that is.

Everyone would like the picture quality to be higher, but this is where we are now. No matter how much you want the people who bought this release to appear as uninformed fans “blindly following” everything Lucas does – that’s simply not the case. They’ve just decided to accept what’s currently available and not spend all day on the internet bad-mouthing Lucas and boycotting everything other than a bootleg. They’ve chosen to watch the movies instead.




Originally posted by: Vigo
George, you should really have thought about creating a religion of Star Wars, since your fans show the same signs of denial and blind following …


The point I´m trying to make is how Lucas has managed to mobilize the sheer ignorance of his blind followers…

Originally posted by: Vigo
I never said that "people who are happy to get the O-OT on DVD in any format" are "blind followers"

Of course not. I wonder how anyone got that idea.



Originally posted by: Vigo
We are not in the year 1993 anymore,

We’re not in the year 1986 anymore either. The Beastie Boys aren’t the >standard< for teenage angst. Get a new mantra.

Originally posted by: Vigo
…learn reading.

The verb you’re looking for would be read. As in, learn to read. By adding ing to the end of read, it became a noun. You can’t learn a noun.

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