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#280901
Topic
Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280901/action/topic#280901
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Originally posted by: CO
I still love the OOT very much, so even though you guys are shooting holes in my theories, I still love it enough to overlook it.


Sorry, I was hoping I wouldn't come across that way. I'm not shooting holes in anyone's theory at all, at least not intentionally. I was just mentioning that there are plenty of times where there just isn't enough story to actually rationalize a plot element. Lucas didn't rationalize it, so there's really no way we can. His stories weren't well thought out, so they have areas where they just don't make any sense. Nor are they ever. They aren't some sort of elaborate puzzle we can solve. They're just poorly written films. There's no big secret - no big reveal - no apocalypse.

Great example you used with LOTR. Those stories were very well thought out and they are very thorough. No pretzel logic needed.

For the record, I'm completely ok with the story developing over a period of years - if - it's done with some sort of thought to what's been released already. Lucas didn't do that. He writes and rewrites like a child playing army in the backyard - the rules and characters change on a whim. Fine for 8 year olds - not so good for motion picture trilogies that have an established fan base.

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#280895
Topic
Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280895/action/topic#280895
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Yeah, what was with the scene with Leia sensing Luke on Bespin? Was it originally going to be that Jedi could use telepathy with non force users?

Originally posted by: CO
remember she does sense Luke at the end of ESB on Cloud City, and tells Lando to go back, yet she doesn't think anything about being a force user then.


I think you guys are giving Lucas way too much credit for writing a thorough story. It doesn't appear as though he thought things through at that level. He just came up with stuff and worried (or not) about continuity later.

Look at how ”no, there is another” was handled. He wrote and filmed that scene before he had any idea at all who the other actually was. He was letting a finished film be released to the theaters with a cliff hanger scene used to set up the next movie - as well as a possible second trilogy - and yet he had no idea about who was being referenced - in his own story. It’s one thing to hash out ideas in a story or script - and I’m sure it’s routine in the business - but he actually filmed a very open-ended plot hole. A plot hole he never resolved properly.

Man, that's sloppy.



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#280719
Topic
How does Star Wars compare?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280719/action/topic#280719
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1) It’s entirely possible that Star Wars is my favorite single film. I have a top 5 list, but picking a single favorite film of all time seems impossible. Mood\weather\time of day\time of year\etc are all factors as to what I want to watch. All speak to me in some way. All transport me.

2) I’m not a big fan of sequels\serials. I’ve not really ever seen any that I think improve on (or even match) the magic of the original. I see the story as an adventure and I don’t want to know what happened before or after. That’s what imagination is for. I don’t need all the blanks filled in. Those blanks are what make up the emotion – the feelings – the mystery - the adventure.

Exception – I’m a huge James Bond nerd. I think that particular franchise can’t be touched in terms of longevity\staying true to the vision\acting\stories\etc. There are a few clunkers, but none are unwatchable or put the fans at odds with each other the way Star Wars has.

3) Nothing moved me or transported me the way Star Wars did. I was in another world, millions of miles from home every time I sat in the theater for it. A true outer space adventure. It was a wonderful time to be 15.
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#280702
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My first step into a larger world.... Splinter Of The Mind's Eye
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280702/action/topic#280702
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http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SOTME.jpg

Intriqued by a couple of current topics, I decided to get a copy. It arrived yesterday. I’ve never read a single EU piece, so this is new territory for sure. I’ve decided to wait until I’m on vacation in a couple of weeks to read it. It’s tempting to start now, but I’m going to wait until I’m sitting on a secluded beach, under a beach umbrella, sunglasses on, and a margarita by my side. It’s summer again - and 30 years later, I’m going on another Star Wars adventure.

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#280700
Topic
Lunch Box art
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280700/action/topic#280700
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I only have the Star Wars lunch box. It's in decent shape. I scanned all six sides. Give me some sort of email account that accepts large file attachments or an FTP site to put them on.

I brought the lunch box to work this morning. I got a few weird looks as I rode up the elevator full of office professionals, all of us in our business attaire. And yes - I carried it by the handle, the way a lunch box should be carried.

Here are some small samples. The high resolution scans are considerably larger.


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB1_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB2_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB3_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB4_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB5_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB6_small.jpg
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#280550
Topic
Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280550/action/topic#280550
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Originally posted by: C3PX
I wish it had stuck to its roots as a piece inspired by the Sci-fi and fantasy of Lucas' time. I think all of that is pretty much lost in the PT and to a lesser extent in ROTJ.


ROTJ is where I jumped ship. I left the theater feeling very let down. Lucas had gone into full-on children's film\marketing tie-in mode.


This...

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/OwenBeru_dead.jpg

and this...

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/poster.gif

...don't work in the same story, and no amount of revisionist history or CGI can fix that. The father\sister arc doesn't work in the story either. It wasn't the original story for a reason.

In the contaminated world that Star Wars has become, you just have to decide what moves you and pick a film. The saga is horribly inconsistent and fragmented. The films don't feel connected, they don't look connected, and they don't work connected.

I chose Star Wars.

By the way, I should take this time to thank you guys for not hammering on me for my film preference. As a Star Wars only fan, I'm in the minority, by far, and I've been taken to task for it plenty of times.
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#280399
Topic
Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280399/action/topic#280399
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Originally posted by: MJR80
... it does seem like Lucas was making things up as he went along... He may have felt a burden to conjure another "plot twist" or "surprise"


He was. It's been confirmed several times over. He didn't have a story beyond Star Wars. Vader-as-father, Leia-as-sister - none of that was there in his "original vision" and the weakness of story, by inventing them later, is obvious. As I've said before, he took an outer space adventure that was on a grand scale - and reduced it to The Wizard Of Oz. Their being related feels out of place and added on - because it was.

He didn't even know what to do with it after he added it. It's not only cheap - it serves absolutely no purpose in the story. It's a useless, weak story arc that goes nowhere. It's embarrasing enough that he made up stuff up on the fly - turns out he's not even good at it.


In answer to the question - Star Wars for me consists of a single film. An outer space adventure in a galaxy far away - and none of the characters are related to each other. They weren't when I was a kid - they aren't now. It's not even a consideration when I watch Star Wars. I can't pretend or imagine they are because I know they aren't. I know they weren't when the story was first written and I know it was thought up later.

Revisionist history only works on people who weren't there during the actual history.

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#279619
Topic
Expanded Universe Unacceptance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279619/action/topic#279619
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Originally posted by: Zion
I haven't read any Star Wars books or comics....EU really isn't my cup of tea.


That's it for me also. Although, I've always been tempted to read Splinter Of The Mind's Eye. It was a really big deal when I was a kid. There was only Star Wars. Suddenly, there was a Star Wars book - something else from that world! The younger fans on here have no idea what that was like for us. There wasn't media saturation\internet\global connectivity\downloading\fan sites\official websites\forums\etc,etc. We had a film - that's it. When that book came out, it was a big deal.

Seems so inocent now.

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#279275
Topic
What were your original expectations for the PT?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279275/action/topic#279275
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
I have thought about watching the Holiday Special also.


It is the first-ever appearance of Boba Fett in the Star Wars universe, though. You should watch it just because of that.














Yeah, that's right - I'm trying to trick him into watching it. So what? I watched it on TV in 1978 and my mind has been contaminated with it ever since. It's time for some other fans to pay their dues.
MWWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.





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#278791
Topic
DVD software need
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278791/action/topic#278791
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Originally posted by: Zeromancer
To make a backup of your own personal dvd and to get around copy protection, I suggest a program called AnyDVD. Just google it.

It worked. It took a combination of four different programs and it took over 5 hours, but I got it. It's a two and a half hour movie so it ended up taking three CDs to hold it all.

Thanks again.

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#278687
Topic
DVD software need
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278687/action/topic#278687
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Last year I asked about some software to strip the audio track off of a DVD and save it as a large MP3. I like to listen to movies on long drives. Several of you recommended a couple of programs and they worked perfectly, by the way.

I'm again in need of your assistance. I have a new DVD with copy protection. It's making it impossible to rip the audio into an MP3. Any suggestions for software that may be able to help me with that.

Thanks in advance.
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#277236
Topic
What were your original expectations for the PT?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277236/action/topic#277236
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Originally posted by: Starboy
- what did you picture or hope for in the new trilogy *before* any of this happened?

I bailed on the series after seeing ROTJ in 1983. I had already started to loose interest after ESB. So for me, the Star Wars universe was the first film only. Because of all that, I expected absolutely nothing from the prequels. I'd also seen still shots of the SEs and knew Lucas' new ideas were nothing that interested me.

More than anything, I went to see the first of the prequels out of curiosity. I figured there was a remote chance it might be a return to form - or at least interesting, deep, well acted, etc. It ended up being none of those things. It was infinitely worse than ROTJ. It was everything I feared it might be. I've not seen the last two.

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#274161
Topic
One man Star Wars show
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/274161/action/topic#274161
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I don't know if any of you guys are familiar with this or not. The guy does the entire film, condensed to about an hour. Just him on stage, standing there, doing all the voices, sound effects, and musical cues. The guy is right on the money with a lot of it too. The nuances of some people's lines, the timing, etc. I just heard a long interview with him on a local radio station and he did about two minutes of it in studio. He's in town for a few days doing his show. Very interesting.

One Man Star Wars