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So why Define STAR WARS as OT OR PT?

Originally posted by: Tony
..wouldnt you like Episodes 3, 4, and 5 to fit in perfectly?

Those movies were made decades before the new ones. It's impossible for them not to fit in perfectly - they were first. It should be up to the writer to make the new ones "fit in". And spare me the whole "it was all written in 1975 as a complete story" diatribe. Those of us that were there, know better.


Originally posted by: Tony
STAR WARS will always be STAR WARS as long as the story does not change.

That's already happened. Significantly.
Nothing was left to chance - there's no unseen characters, there's no luck, there's no twist of fate for anyone, no fortunate or unfortunate turn of events, no characters met along the way - no unrelated characters or events. He's taken a giant, space story from our deepest and wildest imaginations and repackaged it for the current generation of short-attention-span children and 20-somethings that are no longer able to use their imaginations to enrich a story in their minds or do any thinking on their own. They have to have every answer given to them - every detail spelled out for them. He's made the story very small and narrow, every detail neatly sewn up.

He's taken a great outer space science fiction story and turned it into a kids bedtime story where everyone lives happily ever after. It's The Wizard Of Oz for today's generation….

But you couldn't have been, could you?

Oh, we dream lots of silly things when we --

No, Aunt Em -- this was a real, truly live
place. And I remember that some of it
wasn't very nice....

...but most of it was beautiful. But just
the same, all I kept saying to everybody
was, I want to go home. And they sent me

MLS -- Dorothy lying in bed -- Aunt Em sitting by her -- Professor at
window -- Uncle Henry -- Zeke -- Hunk and Hickory standing by -- they
laugh -- Toto jumps up on to bed -- Dorothy takes Toto in her arms --

Doesn't anybody believe me?

Of course we believe you, Dorothy.

Oh, but anyway, Toto, we're home!

MCU -- Dorothy holding Toto in her arms -- Camera shooting past Aunt Em at
right f.g. -- Dorothy looks around room -- speaks -- tears come to her
eyes -- Aunt Em rises -- puts her arm around Dorothy -

Home! And this is my room -- and you're
all here! And I'm not going to leave here
ever, ever again, because I love you all!
And -- Oh, Auntie Em -- there's no place
like home!

Which of the 6 films is your favorite?
Star Wars is the only one I have any interest in anymore.
Empire is ok. After that, I said goodbye to Star Wars in 1983 after seeing Return. I saw Phantom Menace just in case I had made a mistake. I hadn't. It was embarrasing. Haven't seen the last two or any of the altered versions of the OT. Good thing is - since I found you guys, I don't have to worry about it anymore.
Why Kill Padme?

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Why would he write such a MAJOR and EASILY AVOIDABLE continuity error.

Since when has Lucas been concerned with continuity? He's made a second career out of altering the story line and characters of his movies to make up for his lies about having the whole thing planned out from the early 70s.
Uh, yeah, sure he did.
He's a one hit wonder. Too bad he keeps making his one hit worse every couple of years.

Reasons why the O-OT is better than the SE

Originally posted by: Jedikev
Special Effects are not important...the characters are.

Not to the current generation of movie goers. The 20-somethings these days haven't come up in a culture where they use their imagination. They've had bright, quickly-moving images hold their attention for them. No time to do any deep thinking, the movie will tell them what to think. The movie will tie up all the loose ends for them. Don't bother using your brain to think or contribute to the story with your imagination.

TV is the same way now. Shows and commercials both. An image-a-second, nothing on the screen for more than 3 seconds. Don't let people actually look at the product or do any real thinking about it. Just keep the image or speaker moving, making the viewer chase it around the screen. Oh yeah, and occasionally switch between black and white and color, or clear and grainy. That will make it seem artistic. Most modern-day directors don't need any real editing skills or storytelling skills.

The 3 new Star Wars films have been heavily criticized (and rightly so) for having terrible acting and no story. They don't need any of that these days. Lucas knows his audience - 12 - 25 year olds sitting in the theatre looking up at the big picture, mouth slightly open, thinking to themselves - "look at the pretty colors moving around, aah, one of them go boom".

I'm fine with that, by the way. I have no issues with it what-so-ever. I don't have to watch them. Don't have to participate in the hype or buy the official Padme Doritos or Anakin Limited Edition Lava Berry Explosion Pop Tarts. What I have an issue with is Lucas changing a 28 year old film's story line and characters so that it better fits the new generation of consumers.

You can release both versions George, really, it's not that big a deal. No one will think less of you.

Now, I just need to get my hands on a good DVD of the original 1977 version so I can watch it the way I want to see it.
With my Star Wars lunchbox sitting next to me.

Sorry for the rant.
The changes made to the Original Trilogy films down the years...

Originally posted by: Commander Courage
Great sig, Utapau!

Thanks. By the way, I asked the admin to change my username. I found out it may have been mentioned in the last film. I'll have nothing to do with those freak shows. Nor will I ever watch them. Haven't seen the special editions of the OT either. I've seen enough of the screen grabs to know Lucas has gone off the deep end.