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Post: #280901
Topic: Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280901/action/topic#280901
Time: 5-Apr-2007 11:44 AM

Originally posted by: CO
I still love the OOT very much, so even though you guys are shooting holes in my theories, I still love it enough to overlook it.

Sorry, I was hoping I wouldn't come across that way. I'm not shooting holes in anyone's theory at all, at least not intentionally. I was just mentioning that there are plenty of times where there just isn't enough story to actually rationalize a plot element. Lucas didn't rationalize it, so there's really no way we can. His stories weren't well thought out, so they have areas where they just don't make any sense. Nor are they ever. They aren't some sort of elaborate puzzle we can solve. They're just poorly written films. There's no big secret - no big reveal - no apocalypse.

Great example you used with LOTR. Those stories were very well thought out and they are very thorough. No pretzel logic needed.

For the record, I'm completely ok with the story developing over a period of years - if - it's done with some sort of thought to what's been released already. Lucas didn't do that. He writes and rewrites like a child playing army in the backyard - the rules and characters change on a whim. Fine for 8 year olds - not so good for motion picture trilogies that have an established fan base.

Post: #280895
Topic: Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280895/action/topic#280895
Time: 5-Apr-2007 11:09 AM

Originally posted by: C3PX
Yeah, what was with the scene with Leia sensing Luke on Bespin? Was it originally going to be that Jedi could use telepathy with non force users?

Originally posted by: CO
remember she does sense Luke at the end of ESB on Cloud City, and tells Lando to go back, yet she doesn't think anything about being a force user then.

I think you guys are giving Lucas way too much credit for writing a thorough story. It doesn't appear as though he thought things through at that level. He just came up with stuff and worried (or not) about continuity later.

Look at how ”no, there is another” was handled. He wrote and filmed that scene before he had any idea at all who the other actually was. He was letting a finished film be released to the theaters with a cliff hanger scene used to set up the next movie - as well as a possible second trilogy - and yet he had no idea about who was being referenced - in his own story. It’s one thing to hash out ideas in a story or script - and I’m sure it’s routine in the business - but he actually filmed a very open-ended plot hole. A plot hole he never resolved properly.

Man, that's sloppy.

Post: #280876
Topic: The Secret History of Star Wars
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280876/action/topic#280876
Time: 5-Apr-2007 6:54 AM

Zombie84 - you bastard! It's 4:40 AM and I have to get up at 6:00 AM to get ready for work - but I can't stop reading.

I'm making myself stop on page 143.

Very nice work, sir.

Post: #280841
Topic: My first step into a larger world.... Splinter Of The Mind's Eye
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280841/action/topic#280841
Time: 4-Apr-2007 10:09 PM

Dammit you guys!!

I'm trying to wait two weeks!

Post: #280771
Topic: My first step into a larger world.... Splinter Of The Mind's Eye
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280771/action/topic#280771
Time: 4-Apr-2007 4:26 PM

Will do. Looking forward to checking out some early EU.

Man, check out ebay. I got an original copy, in good shape considering it's a 30 year old paperback, for $2.50 + $2.00 shipping.

Post: #280719
Topic: How does Star Wars compare?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280719/action/topic#280719
Time: 4-Apr-2007 1:09 PM

1) It’s entirely possible that Star Wars is my favorite single film. I have a top 5 list, but picking a single favorite film of all time seems impossible. Mood\weather\time of day\time of year\etc are all factors as to what I want to watch. All speak to me in some way. All transport me.

2) I’m not a big fan of sequels\serials. I’ve not really ever seen any that I think improve on (or even match) the magic of the original. I see the story as an adventure and I don’t want to know what happened before or after. That’s what imagination is for. I don’t need all the blanks filled in. Those blanks are what make up the emotion – the feelings – the mystery - the adventure.

Exception – I’m a huge James Bond nerd. I think that particular franchise can’t be touched in terms of longevity\staying true to the vision\acting\stories\etc. There are a few clunkers, but none are unwatchable or put the fans at odds with each other the way Star Wars has.

3) Nothing moved me or transported me the way Star Wars did. I was in another world, millions of miles from home every time I sat in the theater for it. A true outer space adventure. It was a wonderful time to be 15.

Post: #280702
Topic: My first step into a larger world.... Splinter Of The Mind's Eye
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280702/action/topic#280702
Time: 4-Apr-2007 11:18 AM — Edited 26-Dec-2019 9:35 AM

Intriqued by a couple of current topics, I decided to get a copy. It arrived yesterday. I’ve never read a single EU piece, so this is new territory for sure. I’ve decided to wait until I’m on vacation in a couple of weeks to read it. It’s tempting to start now, but I’m going to wait until I’m sitting on a secluded beach, under a beach umbrella, sunglasses on, and a margarita by my side. It’s summer again - and 30 years later, I’m going on another Star Wars adventure.

Post: #280700
Topic: Lunch Box art
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280700/action/topic#280700
Time: 4-Apr-2007 10:52 AM

I only have the Star Wars lunch box. It's in decent shape. I scanned all six sides. Give me some sort of email account that accepts large file attachments or an FTP site to put them on.

I brought the lunch box to work this morning. I got a few weird looks as I rode up the elevator full of office professionals, all of us in our business attaire. And yes - I carried it by the handle, the way a lunch box should be carried.

Here are some small samples. The high resolution scans are considerably larger.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB1_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB2_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB3_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB4_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB5_small.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWLB6_small.jpg

Post: #280550
Topic: Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280550/action/topic#280550
Time: 3-Apr-2007 11:37 AM

Originally posted by: C3PX
I wish it had stuck to its roots as a piece inspired by the Sci-fi and fantasy of Lucas' time. I think all of that is pretty much lost in the PT and to a lesser extent in ROTJ.

ROTJ is where I jumped ship. I left the theater feeling very let down. Lucas had gone into full-on children's film\marketing tie-in mode.

This...

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/OwenBeru_dead.jpg

and this...

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/poster.gif

...don't work in the same story, and no amount of revisionist history or CGI can fix that. The father\sister arc doesn't work in the story either. It wasn't the original story for a reason.

In the contaminated world that Star Wars has become, you just have to decide what moves you and pick a film. The saga is horribly inconsistent and fragmented. The films don't feel connected, they don't look connected, and they don't work connected.

I chose Star Wars.

By the way, I should take this time to thank you guys for not hammering on me for my film preference. As a Star Wars only fan, I'm in the minority, by far, and I've been taken to task for it plenty of times.

Post: #280399
Topic: Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/280399/action/topic#280399
Time: 2-Apr-2007 4:10 PM

Originally posted by: MJR80
... it does seem like Lucas was making things up as he went along... He may have felt a burden to conjure another "plot twist" or "surprise"

He was. It's been confirmed several times over. He didn't have a story beyond Star Wars. Vader-as-father, Leia-as-sister - none of that was there in his "original vision" and the weakness of story, by inventing them later, is obvious. As I've said before, he took an outer space adventure that was on a grand scale - and reduced it to The Wizard Of Oz. Their being related feels out of place and added on - because it was.

He didn't even know what to do with it after he added it. It's not only cheap - it serves absolutely no purpose in the story. It's a useless, weak story arc that goes nowhere. It's embarrasing enough that he made up stuff up on the fly - turns out he's not even good at it.

In answer to the question - Star Wars for me consists of a single film. An outer space adventure in a galaxy far away - and none of the characters are related to each other. They weren't when I was a kid - they aren't now. It's not even a consideration when I watch Star Wars. I can't pretend or imagine they are because I know they aren't. I know they weren't when the story was first written and I know it was thought up later.

Revisionist history only works on people who weren't there during the actual history.

Post: #279987
Topic: Post Office unveils Star Wars stamp set
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279987/action/topic#279987
Time: 30-Mar-2007 5:55 PM

Originally posted by: C3PX
By 30 year old movie I meant just Star Wars, not the sequels. I guess I was expective something very old school looking in, not sure why I was expecting that actually.

I agree. They seem more marketing than they do immortalizing.

Post: #279801
Topic: The Best Star Wars Books?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279801/action/topic#279801
Time: 29-Mar-2007 4:59 PM

My latest purchase. Should be here in a few days.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SOTME.jpg

30 years and I'm just now getting around to reading it.

Hey - I've been busy!

Post: #279668
Topic: Expanded Universe Unacceptance
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279668/action/topic#279668
Time: 28-Mar-2007 5:15 PM

Man, that's no lie. There are tons of original copies. Most are just a few bucks. I'll pick up a copy. If it's crap, I'll toss it.

Post: #279619
Topic: Expanded Universe Unacceptance
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279619/action/topic#279619
Time: 28-Mar-2007 11:20 AM

Originally posted by: Zion
I haven't read any Star Wars books or comics....EU really isn't my cup of tea.

That's it for me also. Although, I've always been tempted to read Splinter Of The Mind's Eye. It was a really big deal when I was a kid. There was only Star Wars. Suddenly, there was a Star Wars book - something else from that world! The younger fans on here have no idea what that was like for us. There wasn't media saturation\internet\global connectivity\downloading\fan sites\official websites\forums\etc,etc. We had a film - that's it. When that book came out, it was a big deal.

Seems so inocent now.

Post: #279275
Topic: What were your original expectations for the PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279275/action/topic#279275
Time: 26-Mar-2007 6:53 AM

Originally posted by: Marvolo
I have thought about watching the Holiday Special also.

It is the first-ever appearance of Boba Fett in the Star Wars universe, though. You should watch it just because of that.

Yeah, that's right - I'm trying to trick him into watching it. So what? I watched it on TV in 1978 and my mind has been contaminated with it ever since. It's time for some other fans to pay their dues.
MWWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Post: #279136
Topic: What were your original expectations for the PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279136/action/topic#279136
Time: 25-Mar-2007 8:35 AM

Originally posted by: Zion
If you're posting on this board, you're obviously a Star Wars fan in some capacity. As such, you HAVE to watch it at least once...

I saw it when it originally aired on TV. That was my once.

God, I still can't get some of those images out of my head.

It's vile.

Post: #278791
Topic: DVD software need
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278791/action/topic#278791
Time: 23-Mar-2007 2:37 AM

Originally posted by: Zeromancer
To make a backup of your own personal dvd and to get around copy protection, I suggest a program called AnyDVD. Just google it.

It worked. It took a combination of four different programs and it took over 5 hours, but I got it. It's a two and a half hour movie so it ended up taking three CDs to hold it all.

Thanks again.

Post: #278687
Topic: DVD software need
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278687/action/topic#278687
Time: 22-Mar-2007 2:49 PM

Last year I asked about some software to strip the audio track off of a DVD and save it as a large MP3. I like to listen to movies on long drives. Several of you recommended a couple of programs and they worked perfectly, by the way.

I'm again in need of your assistance. I have a new DVD with copy protection. It's making it impossible to rip the audio into an MP3. Any suggestions for software that may be able to help me with that.

Thanks in advance.

Post: #277390
Topic: See George there's no reason to lie... (future of star wars)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277390/action/topic#277390
Time: 14-Mar-2007 5:47 PM

Originally posted by: SilverWook
He flat out said in a tape recorded interview with the official ESB publicist, (who wrote the official making of book) on the set back in '79 that he had written treatments on all NINE films. How does one misconstrue that?

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Post: #277236
Topic: What were your original expectations for the PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277236/action/topic#277236
Time: 14-Mar-2007 12:40 AM

Originally posted by: Starboy
- what did you picture or hope for in the new trilogy *before* any of this happened?

I bailed on the series after seeing ROTJ in 1983. I had already started to loose interest after ESB. So for me, the Star Wars universe was the first film only. Because of all that, I expected absolutely nothing from the prequels. I'd also seen still shots of the SEs and knew Lucas' new ideas were nothing that interested me.

More than anything, I went to see the first of the prequels out of curiosity. I figured there was a remote chance it might be a return to form - or at least interesting, deep, well acted, etc. It ended up being none of those things. It was infinitely worse than ROTJ. It was everything I feared it might be. I've not seen the last two.

Post: #274161
Topic: One man Star Wars show
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/274161/action/topic#274161
Time: 27-Feb-2007 3:20 PM

I don't know if any of you guys are familiar with this or not. The guy does the entire film, condensed to about an hour. Just him on stage, standing there, doing all the voices, sound effects, and musical cues. The guy is right on the money with a lot of it too. The nuances of some people's lines, the timing, etc. I just heard a long interview with him on a local radio station and he did about two minutes of it in studio. He's in town for a few days doing his show. Very interesting.

One Man Star Wars

Post: #273438
Topic: I'm Unsure If Anyone Has Posted This... Shatner Sings!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/273438/action/topic#273438
Time: 23-Feb-2007 11:55 AM

Originally posted by: GhostAlpha26
Ive watched that Truimph scene before and it never gets old, it is possibly the most hilarious thing ever

+1

It's comic genius.

"which one of these buttons calls your parents to pick you up?"

Post: #272875
Topic: What the fuck??? : George is definitely gone "bye bye"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272875/action/topic#272875
Time: 20-Feb-2007 12:07 PM

Originally posted by: TheCassidy
It's the internet whining and Expanded Universe marketing that is killing Star Wars, not Lucas.

I disagree.

I also believe it's the internet whining, as you call it, that landed us the OOT on DVD. Without a unified voice, albeit a sometimes angry one, Lucas\Fox wouldn't have even bothered.

Post: #272516
Topic: What the fuck??? : George is definitely gone "bye bye"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272516/action/topic#272516
Time: 18-Feb-2007 4:17 AM

Originally posted by: Marvolo
He is just pissed and jealous, because Kershner did what he couldn't. Make a good film without slapstick in your face fart and poop jokes.

It is kind of fitting though - there's five Star Wars sequels and the one that's almost universally thought of as the best, the most serious, has the best acting, best cinematography, etc - is one that George didn't direct.

Post: #272419
Topic: Meco - Star Wars Theme/Cantina Band
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/272419/action/topic#272419
Time: 17-Feb-2007 11:00 AM

The radio station I listen to has a feature everyday, at lunch, where they play 10 songs from a certain year. The songs are pulled from what was popular according to Billboard magazine. Here's one from this past week. The year was 1977;

10cc - The Things We Do For Love
Eric Clapton - The Core
Lynyrd Skynyrd - I Know a Little
Pablo Cruise - A Place in the Sun
Graham Parker - Hold Back the Night
Fleetwood Mac - I Don't Want to Know
Ram Jam - Black Betty
Foreigner - Cold As Ice
Doobies - Echoes of Love
Meco - Star Wars Theme/Cantina Band

For those of you too young to remember, The Meco - Star Wars piece got a ton of air play that year. I'd forgotten how funny sounding it was. Cheesy blaster noises, R2D2 sounds, alien noises at the start of the transition to the Cantina portion, etc. If you can find it as an MP3 download anywhere, it's great cheese, man. It's an interesting look into just how crazy-popular Star Wars was that year.

Makes me feel old, though.