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#284897
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Original theatrical trailer from 1977 (wanted)
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Originally posted by: CO
The 1976 Teaser Trailer is very eerie cause it doesn't contain John Williams' Score, and has a more haunting tone to it.


Yeah - that's the one I'm thinking of. It just has that ominous pulsing score, quietly playing while it alternates between scenes from the film and the title slowly coming from far away. It is a much more serious view of the film. That's the one I saw as a kid. When 3PO rises up out of the oil bath, says who he is and Luke says hello - I was hooked.

Thanks, man. I'll stop at Best Buy on the way home. Maybe they have that 2004 release. I'll be sure to check the packaging to make sure it mentions the bonus material.

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#284876
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Original theatrical trailer from 1977 (wanted)
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Has it ever been available on any of the releases? I'm talking about the very first trailer (at least I think it is). It has a sort of monotone voice-over, scenes from the film, no music other than a steady pulsing, and Star Wars is written in a plain font - not the familiar logo.

I'd like to have a good copy and would be willing to buy one of the SE releases to get it - just long enough to copy only the trailer to DVD and throw the SE away, or give it away. I'd strip the audio track and put it at the beginning of my soundtrack CD.

Thanks in advance.
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#284658
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Star Wars Radio Drama - *update in 1st post* - completed review
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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
I think it has some additional scene extensions and material not in the final radio drama
It does. I read what I think is the forward by Brian Daley and he said they had to trim a few scenes to make room for extended pieces of music and credits.

If the book is ungodly hard to find or something, drop me an email (at the hotmail one) and I'll look into scanning it for the community.

It's not. I already ordered it. Thanks, though.

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#284431
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Star Wars Radio Drama - *update in 1st post* - completed review
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I'm so nerdy.
Since I enjoyed Splinter so much, I had decided to look for a copy of the Star Wars novelization from '77. While I was bouncing around the internet looking for it, I also decided to see if there was a site where I could download the script used in the radio drama that C3PX put me onto. Figured I'd print it out and read it like a novel. A few pages into searching, I discovered that it has been published once before in the form of a book.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/SWRD-1.jpg

It'll be here in about a week.

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#284396
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Star Wars Radio Drama - *update in 1st post* - completed review
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (which actually started off as a radio show and was later adapted to a novel rather than the other way around as is commonly believed).

I remember listening to those when they first aired in the 70s. I wasn't a huge fan, but I did listen occasionally. A buddy of mine back then was a huge science fiction nerd. He was the one that discovered the radio show and told me about it. He also bought Splinter Of The Mind's Eye when it first came out. I can still remember seeing it at his house. Man, he read science fiction novels constantly.

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#284278
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Revenge of the sith is the shite and the flies upon it
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Originally posted by: CO
...I really don't revisit them years later unless they are on cable and I am channel surfing. But when it comes to popping in a DVD, I can watch BTTF, SW, ESB, Raiders, Jaws endlessly cause they have that magic everytime you watch them.


I'm on board with that and have actually taken it one step further. I don't watch sequels to films I really love. I don't want any unnecessary images in my head, any unnecessary story. I learned my lesson with Empire and Return. I didn't want to know any more - I didn't want any blanks filled in - any questions answered. They tarnished the magic and adventure or Star Wars for me. It took me years to purge them from my psyche.

Here are some of my top movies (that had sequels) and how I've handled them. Some I learned my lesson the hard way, others were never even a consideration.

Star Wars - Saw Empire and Return, was disappointed. Saw TPM and was sickened. Haven’t seen the last two films or any SE versions of the OT.

Jaws – sequels aren’t an option.

Raiders Of The Lost Ark – saw both sequels. They’re OK, but I won’t bother with them in the future unless they're on cable late at night. I'll most likely go see the next one unless I get a thorough review and find out it's crap.

Alien – sequels aren’t an option.

Back To The Future – saw part of the second one, it sucked. Won’t bother with three.

Planet Of The Apes – saw most of the second one, it sucked. Won’t bother with the others.

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#284096
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Star Wars Radio Drama - *update in 1st post* - completed review
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I’m just three chapters into it so far. I don’t want to give anything away because there are definitely spoilable areas. The entire program is 6-1/2 hours, so there are a lot of scenes that are expanded, as well as parts that were not in the movie at all.

I will say, however, that I’m really enjoying it. It’s much more than I expected. The sound effects, music, etc. The reading is terrific. They really put a lot into it and several scenes were very emotional. Only Mark Hamill and Anthony Daniels reprise their roles, but so far I’m not having any problems with getting used to the new voices. After a few minutes of each, I’m settled in and they become the character. That surprised me.

It is safe to mention one part on this board though. We’ve all seen the deleted scenes with Luke and Treadwell out in the desert looking up at the opening battle( that ultimately gets him involved in the story), then going back to Tosche to tell Fixer and Camie and urging them to go outside, seeing how he’s an outsider in the group, seeing him meet up with Biggs again, etc. That scene was nearly an entire chapter and it’s done very well. It was nice to hear it really fleshed out.

I’m listening to an hour each day. Each chapter is 30 minutes, which happens to be my work commute almost exactly, so it’s a chapter in the morning and a chapter in the evening. It will take me until sometime next week to hear them all. I’ll give a full review afterwards.

Anyway, great stuff so far. I’m out of here, fellas. Chapter four starts in a few minutes.

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*update* - April 27th. No spoilers.

Thanks to some heavy traffic and one day of bad storms, I finished the last episode on the drive home today.

It is really incredible. I can’t tell you guys how much I enjoyed it. I really looked forward to the commute everyday and had a hard time not listening to it all the way through after about the third or fourth episode. I normally ride a motorcycle to work but after 14 hours on the road coming back from vacation only a day before, I was just too fatigued to suit up and ride, so I decided to drive. I took the radio drama with me for the commute. I liked it so much, that I drove every day this week. I could hardly wait for the next episode every morning. I had the thing playing before I was out of the driveway every day.

The entire production is first rate – sound effects, music, acting – everything. I’m shocked at how deep it feels - how thorough. There’s so much more when there isn’t a two-hour time constraint. I really enjoyed the added chapters. Some of it is taken almost verbatim from the early film scripts.

I thought everyone did an outstanding job with their characters. They really get a chance to get deep into them. It goes without saying that Mark Hamill makes the whole drama, but the rest of the cast did great work as well. Ann Sachs is awesome as Leia. She brings a lot to the roll. Very emotional in spots. Perry King was a great Han. Less likeable than in the film because you get a chance to see just how smug, self-centered, and untrustworthy he really is. He’s just not a likeable guy. Brock Peters was fantastic as Vader – again, more depth to the character. Everyone else was great also.

This thing is up there with the film in my world. I enjoyed it that much. It’s a giant adventure and I felt like I was going on it for the first time. It felt far away - the universe felt endless again.

C3PX, I can’t thank you enough for bringing the thing to my attention. My Star Wars universe grew substantially this past week. I also have the published script now. I'll start reading it soon.


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/StarWarsRadio.jpg
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#284000
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'Kryptonite' discovered in mine
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
The mineral cannot be called kryptonite under international nomenclature rules because it has nothing to do with krypton...
Aw come on, can't they bend the rules just this once?


You know how Geology Fanboys are. Probably have their own forums....


"I think we should call it kryptonite, in honor of Superman."

"Dude, it's not a mineral - it's sedimentary. Typical of all you tectonic fanboys"

"Fuck you - it was discovered in a rollover anticline on a growth fault"

"Bullshit, it clearly came from a faulted anticline"

"You're a troll anyway. I remember you from the igneous board"
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#283980
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Don Imus and the race issue thread.
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Article on Sharpton

"1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.

1991: A Hasidic Jewish driver in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section accidentally kills Gavin Cato, a 7-year-old black child, and antisemitic riots erupt. Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire. At Gavin's funeral he rails against the "diamond merchants" -- code for Jews -- with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. He mobilizes hundreds of demonstrators to march through the Jewish neighborhood, chanting, "No justice, no peace." A rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, is surrounded by a mob shouting "Kill the Jews!" and stabbed to death.

1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno."


I lived in New York City when two of these incidents took place. I'm sorry mainstream media and the rest of America don't realize who Sharpton really is. He's just a hate mongering racist who travels around starting racial fires and keeping black\white race relations stirred up. Jesse Jackson and Spike Lee are more of the same. There's plenty of money to be made and plenty of fame to be had if they keep race relations in a constant state of unrest.
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#283929
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Splinter Of The Mind's Eye - review and thoughts.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Interesting aspect, though, that anybody can simply say, "Shut down," to a droid. One, I would think that a droid would only obey his master's directive to do that.


In fact, Vader tells Luke that's why they obeyed him, because he had just become their new owner.



Funny, when I first read it, I thought to myself - that's where Lucas probably came up with the idea to further shrink the universe in TPM. Honestly, he doesn't seem to ever have an original thought in his head. Everything he's ever "created" has really just been borrowed and tweaked from someone else's work - Star Wars Origins
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#283918
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Splinter Of The Mind's Eye - review and thoughts.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
But obviously that plot point did not exist in any way at the time this book was written, so how exactly would Darth Vader be so intimately aware with 3PO's programming?
3PO mentions it in passing, but it's never used. It's just his usual blathering on while people are trying to have a conversation.

The book was written 21 years before TPM, by someone other than Lucas. It's a coincidence, nothing more.

Is it explained at all?

No. It's not even bothered with in the book. In fact, when Vader shuts both droids down, he simply tells them to shut down. Since they're programmed to follow orders, they just shut down. No code words are needed or used and the command is just the phrase...shut down.