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#290090
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Your first words of reaction after watching one of the PT movies for the first time.
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Originally posted by: HotRod
I just thought, from you're point of view having never seen a SE before, that it might have been an eye opener that's all.

I'm sure there are some parts of it that are really nice - color, clarity, etc. I was just lucky I found out ahead of time that there were added scenes and characters. I didn't want to worry with having to try to unsee them afterwards. So I never bothered with them.

Man, nearly 30 years later, I still have a scattering of images in my head from the original TV airing of The Holiday Special. The SE additions are the last thing I need in there with them.

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#290065
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Share your Star Wars theater experience
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The theater I saw Star Wars in, every week of the summer of 1977, was torn down about four years ago. It was the first theater in the city to have more than one screen (it had two). The screens were gigantic by today's standards. They were set into the wall about eight feet deep, so they had a presence about them. I saw a ton of movies there. They were run by General Cinema Corporation. While looking for a picture of the theater, I stumbled across a site with a link to another site that had the GCC intro. I must have seen that intro a hundred times as a kid. This was long before the pre-movie sensory overload you're subjected to these days. Back then, the film was the experience.

Here's the GCC intro that played before every film; Theater intro

Here's a picture of the theater (not taken by me);

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/movietheater.jpg


It had been shut down for a while before it was demolished, so I knew it was just a matter of time. One day there was a chain link fence around the property. About a week later I drove by one afternoon and the back wall\screen area was in a giant pile of rubble, the roof was gone, and one of the side walls was about half gone. You could see the inside slope of where the seats used to be and the entrance from the lobby into the theater. An entrance I'd passed through for more movies than I can remember, and more showings of Star Wars than I can count.

It was a weird thing to see it being demolished. Now it's a strip center with a Circuit City about where the theater used to be. That road next to it isn't even there anymore. They leveled and redeveloped the entire area.
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#290011
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Your first words of reaction after watching one of the PT movies for the first time.
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
Originally posted by: Anchorhead
Star Wars doesn't need to be fixed.


... to say that there is not stuff in Star Wars that could be polished and fixed is a monumental missight of the truth.

(Followed by 103 things Anchorhead doesn't give thought to while watching the story - as opposed to a scene by scene breakdown of the film.)

I am sorry about the length of my post, but I wanted Anchorhead to see this list. Even if it still does not change his mind about the project.


With all due respect, if there are 103 scenes you'd like to see changed to make the movie more enjoyable for you - you might want to give some serious thought to watching a different movie.

Let me clarify my original post; Star Wars doesn't need to be polished and fixed for me to enjoy it.

In fact, I prefer it not be altered at all - which is why I'm a member of this board in the first place.

When I put the DVD in, I watch Star Wars, the story of Luke Skywalker - not the color of a helmet sticker on one of the extras in a scene - or whether of not the upper piece of someone's armor on their right arm matches the guy standing next to them in line, ten people back from the actors with speaking roles - or counted the number of times Greedo blinks. For fuck's sake, man - go outdoors occasionally.
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#289954
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Your first words of reaction after watching one of the PT movies for the first time.
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Originally posted by: HotRod
...in, how can you have an opinion about the other films if you haven't seen them. But you have (well Empire and Jedi at least - which is really all that matters)

While you're making sure my viewing history is sufficient for this board - I have seen Phantom, so I have at least some idea of how the prequels look and feel.

....do you have any interest in watching Adywans special, special edition of Star Wars when it's finally finished? Because I must say (and I'm not the biggest fan of the SE either) that it does look pretty amazing.


I've never heard of it.

I've never seen the SEs, so if it's something made from those, I won't be watching it.

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#289789
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Your first words of reaction after watching one of the PT movies for the first time.
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I've only seen Phantom, so all my thoughts are based on that one film. My initial thought was how it felt completely unlike the Star Wars universe. It was no different than any other remake of a famous movie from decades earlier. It felt like someone else's vision of Star Wars. There was absolutely no connection back to Star Wars (for me, anyway). It didn't look it, it didn't feel it, nor did it transport me to far away worlds.

The acting was terrible - in particular Portman and Lloyd. The characters were one-dimensional. I didn't care what happened to them. I felt no connection. Half of them served no purpose at all, other than to advertise the software that created them or to sell toys or Halloween costume tie-ins. The story is that poorly written - what little story there is.

I had gone to see it out of curiosity. Afterwards, I knew I wouldn't be bothering with the next two.

[rant]
Something that is particularly glaring, acting\writing-wise is George's inability to write a few lines of dialogue beyond the point in a sentence where someone is interrupted. I was reading a piece by Brian Daley where he explained how he wrote lines of dialogue and included sentence structure beyond where a person is to be interrupted while talking. It makes the interruption real - the first person is still talking for a moment while the second person interrupts the dialogue.

When George writes the screenplay or script, the character pauses and waits for their interruption. It feels unnatural. With George, characters are never interrupted - they just have weird sounding pauses while they wait to be interrupted. He sure as hell didn't get any help from Portman or Lloyd either. They're two of the worst. They just read the script, without depth, without feeling.

In Star Wars, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford are particularly good at that kind of interaction - whereas, in Phantom, Portman and Lloyd are uncomfortably bad at it.
[/rant]

My point with including that rant, by the way, is that the terrible acting is one of the things that stood out the most when I first saw Phantom.
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#289205
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Holiday Special Cartoon/Deleted Scene DVD rumours at CELEBRATION IV
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Originally posted by: kmcherry
I think the rumor is only about the animated interlude with Boba Fett...


Man, I'm shocked he hasn't done that by now. He should hold that cartoon short in high reverence - it became the entire future of all things Star Wars. Every film after that, every animated series (including the forthcoming), and every version of every SE. They all had to feature him, make mention of him, or be altered to include him.

Boba Fett became Star Wars. Boba Fett made Lucas who he is.


*Edit* - I may be speaking out of turn. I've not seen the last two films. Boba Fett may not be in those. I'm really just guessing.



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#288450
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I just can't watch Star Wars anymore....
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I'll reply to this when I have more time, but you're not alone in your views. Search through my posts and you'll see.

You're amongst friends though - a great group of people here. Not only have they been accepting of my Star Wars 77 beliefs, they've put me on to some great stuff that still fits within, enhanced, (and in one case, surpassed) my Star Wars world. They know how grateful I am for it also.
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#288182
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Your dream vehicles
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http://www.classiccarfair.com/1958cadillaccoupedeville_white_left_702x306.jpg

Oh yeah - back when cars had style. Long before they all morphed into the "everypod" that they've become. I understand the need for aerodynamics, drag coefficients, fuel economy, etc - but along with those things, the car companies also moved into an area where they tried to make the cars appeal to as many buyers as possible. They did that by taking away any strong lines or styling cues. We're left with nothing but Accords, Fusions, and Impalas. There's been a slight - slight - move away from that in recent years, but really only with the higher end cars.

I kinda dig the new Chrysler 300s. They have a sort of comic book feel to them. Thick body with a throwback to the 50s chopped roof look. Something a cop would get out of and yell up to a building - "come out with your hands up, Lefty, we've got you surrounded".

*sorry, back to dream vehicles*

I'll work up a list soon.
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#287854
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When it was just a movie....
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Originally posted by: sunday256
Take issue all you want, but your opinion is your own.
Yes, it is. How many times have you read where I took issue with someone else's opinion? How about when I told someone their opinion was wrong? Here, let me help you with the answer - that would be none.

I posted a cereal box and pointed out the stickers you could get in 1977. I didn't post a cereal box and say "look, here's a cereal box - it proves that the PT is shit".

My dislike of anything after Star Wars is not me insulting you or your opinion. In fact, it has absolutely nothing to do with you. You aren't Star Wars - you don't get to speak for Star Wars - you don't represent all that is Star Wars.

For some reason, every time I make a post and mention something positive about Star Wars 77 - here you come, blathering on about how I haven't given the PT the respect it deserves or considered all sides of the issue, etc.

Sunday, I don't care about anything that came after Star Wars. That really doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.


But you can crap over the PT all you want.

I have definite views on the PT alright. However, if you'd bother reading anything I've written the last few years, you would see that it's really just the lies Lucas tells about writing the last five films and what little I know about the storyline of the PT. For me to be able to "crap over" the PT with any credibility, I would have had to have seen them all. I haven't. I've seen only Phantom. I can't criticize - or even participate in - PT discussions, because I don't know what anyone's talking about.


I happen to enjoy all 6...

Good for you. Your Star Wars marathons last a lot longer than mine.

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#287793
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When it was just a movie....
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Originally posted by: Davis

No, even with no PT, Lucas would screw with the movies. He proved that by extensively altering THX-1138, an obscure, standalone film nobody cares much about. The original version of that isn't available either...


Oh no - don't tell me LUH is actually THX's sister and that it also turns out that SRT actually built the superstructure, but somehow has no recollection of it.

Let me guess - the original script (that there isn't a copy of and no one ever saw) was actually titled "The Tragedy Of SEN".

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#287756
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When it was just a movie....
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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by:sunday256
Well I understand what he's saying, but I still am glad we have all 6 movies. When it was just Star Wars, it was great...but it got better as the years went on.



We do have all 6 movies? The last time I checked the only good quality DVD's were the SE & PT, so I would disagree with ya there that we should all be glad for 6 movies. If the PT were never made, the OOT would be the dominant version whenever released on DVD or HD-DVD because Lucas would have no reason to worry about connecting the trilogies and make them come as seamless as he hopes now. Plus if he never did the PT, I wouldn't have to watch doucebag Hayden staring at Luke at the end of ROTJ!

Sorry Anchorhead if this got off topic, but I take issue with anyone who loves the OOT and is glad the PT was made, cause the PT is reason we are all stuck with shit Laserdisk DVD's now!


Not a problem at all, man. You guys all know how I feel.