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#289789
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Your first words of reaction after watching one of the PT movies for the first time.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/289789/action/topic#289789
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I've only seen Phantom, so all my thoughts are based on that one film. My initial thought was how it felt completely unlike the Star Wars universe. It was no different than any other remake of a famous movie from decades earlier. It felt like someone else's vision of Star Wars. There was absolutely no connection back to Star Wars (for me, anyway). It didn't look it, it didn't feel it, nor did it transport me to far away worlds.

The acting was terrible - in particular Portman and Lloyd. The characters were one-dimensional. I didn't care what happened to them. I felt no connection. Half of them served no purpose at all, other than to advertise the software that created them or to sell toys or Halloween costume tie-ins. The story is that poorly written - what little story there is.

I had gone to see it out of curiosity. Afterwards, I knew I wouldn't be bothering with the next two.

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Something that is particularly glaring, acting\writing-wise is George's inability to write a few lines of dialogue beyond the point in a sentence where someone is interrupted. I was reading a piece by Brian Daley where he explained how he wrote lines of dialogue and included sentence structure beyond where a person is to be interrupted while talking. It makes the interruption real - the first person is still talking for a moment while the second person interrupts the dialogue.

When George writes the screenplay or script, the character pauses and waits for their interruption. It feels unnatural. With George, characters are never interrupted - they just have weird sounding pauses while they wait to be interrupted. He sure as hell didn't get any help from Portman or Lloyd either. They're two of the worst. They just read the script, without depth, without feeling.

In Star Wars, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford are particularly good at that kind of interaction - whereas, in Phantom, Portman and Lloyd are uncomfortably bad at it.
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My point with including that rant, by the way, is that the terrible acting is one of the things that stood out the most when I first saw Phantom.
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#289205
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Holiday Special Cartoon/Deleted Scene DVD rumours at CELEBRATION IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/289205/action/topic#289205
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Originally posted by: kmcherry
I think the rumor is only about the animated interlude with Boba Fett...


Man, I'm shocked he hasn't done that by now. He should hold that cartoon short in high reverence - it became the entire future of all things Star Wars. Every film after that, every animated series (including the forthcoming), and every version of every SE. They all had to feature him, make mention of him, or be altered to include him.

Boba Fett became Star Wars. Boba Fett made Lucas who he is.


*Edit* - I may be speaking out of turn. I've not seen the last two films. Boba Fett may not be in those. I'm really just guessing.



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#288450
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I just can't watch Star Wars anymore....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288450/action/topic#288450
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I'll reply to this when I have more time, but you're not alone in your views. Search through my posts and you'll see.

You're amongst friends though - a great group of people here. Not only have they been accepting of my Star Wars 77 beliefs, they've put me on to some great stuff that still fits within, enhanced, (and in one case, surpassed) my Star Wars world. They know how grateful I am for it also.
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#288182
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Your dream vehicles
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288182/action/topic#288182
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http://www.classiccarfair.com/1958cadillaccoupedeville_white_left_702x306.jpg

Oh yeah - back when cars had style. Long before they all morphed into the "everypod" that they've become. I understand the need for aerodynamics, drag coefficients, fuel economy, etc - but along with those things, the car companies also moved into an area where they tried to make the cars appeal to as many buyers as possible. They did that by taking away any strong lines or styling cues. We're left with nothing but Accords, Fusions, and Impalas. There's been a slight - slight - move away from that in recent years, but really only with the higher end cars.

I kinda dig the new Chrysler 300s. They have a sort of comic book feel to them. Thick body with a throwback to the 50s chopped roof look. Something a cop would get out of and yell up to a building - "come out with your hands up, Lefty, we've got you surrounded".

*sorry, back to dream vehicles*

I'll work up a list soon.
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#287854
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When it was just a movie....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287854/action/topic#287854
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Originally posted by: sunday256
Take issue all you want, but your opinion is your own.
Yes, it is. How many times have you read where I took issue with someone else's opinion? How about when I told someone their opinion was wrong? Here, let me help you with the answer - that would be none.

I posted a cereal box and pointed out the stickers you could get in 1977. I didn't post a cereal box and say "look, here's a cereal box - it proves that the PT is shit".

My dislike of anything after Star Wars is not me insulting you or your opinion. In fact, it has absolutely nothing to do with you. You aren't Star Wars - you don't get to speak for Star Wars - you don't represent all that is Star Wars.

For some reason, every time I make a post and mention something positive about Star Wars 77 - here you come, blathering on about how I haven't given the PT the respect it deserves or considered all sides of the issue, etc.

Sunday, I don't care about anything that came after Star Wars. That really doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.


But you can crap over the PT all you want.

I have definite views on the PT alright. However, if you'd bother reading anything I've written the last few years, you would see that it's really just the lies Lucas tells about writing the last five films and what little I know about the storyline of the PT. For me to be able to "crap over" the PT with any credibility, I would have had to have seen them all. I haven't. I've seen only Phantom. I can't criticize - or even participate in - PT discussions, because I don't know what anyone's talking about.


I happen to enjoy all 6...

Good for you. Your Star Wars marathons last a lot longer than mine.

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#287793
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When it was just a movie....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287793/action/topic#287793
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Originally posted by: Davis

No, even with no PT, Lucas would screw with the movies. He proved that by extensively altering THX-1138, an obscure, standalone film nobody cares much about. The original version of that isn't available either...


Oh no - don't tell me LUH is actually THX's sister and that it also turns out that SRT actually built the superstructure, but somehow has no recollection of it.

Let me guess - the original script (that there isn't a copy of and no one ever saw) was actually titled "The Tragedy Of SEN".

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#287756
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When it was just a movie....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287756/action/topic#287756
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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by:sunday256
Well I understand what he's saying, but I still am glad we have all 6 movies. When it was just Star Wars, it was great...but it got better as the years went on.



We do have all 6 movies? The last time I checked the only good quality DVD's were the SE & PT, so I would disagree with ya there that we should all be glad for 6 movies. If the PT were never made, the OOT would be the dominant version whenever released on DVD or HD-DVD because Lucas would have no reason to worry about connecting the trilogies and make them come as seamless as he hopes now. Plus if he never did the PT, I wouldn't have to watch doucebag Hayden staring at Luke at the end of ROTJ!

Sorry Anchorhead if this got off topic, but I take issue with anyone who loves the OOT and is glad the PT was made, cause the PT is reason we are all stuck with shit Laserdisk DVD's now!


Not a problem at all, man. You guys all know how I feel.

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#287729
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When it was just a movie....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287729/action/topic#287729
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Yeah, I was pointing out that it was better when it was just a single film. However, that was just an aside to my post. I really posted the cereal box because I thought it was interesting how simple it all was back then - before it became the juggernaut it would later morph into.

Sunday actually sidetracked my fucking post before it ever got started because he sees battles where there are none. Man, I just thought the cereal box was interesting.

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#287528
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When it was just a movie....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287528/action/topic#287528
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This is the back of a cereal box from 1977.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/Lucky_SWbox.jpg

The text reads;

“Collect great photos of Luke Skywalker, Ben (Obi Wan) Kenobi, Princess Leia, and Han Solo. Get other exciting Stick-ons of Star Wars Robots, Creatures, and Scenes like Chewbacca, R2-D2, and Fighting Space Ships”

Funny how there’s no mention of Darth Vader. He was just a bad guy with a black mask. Just one of the characters on the adventure that Luke Skywalker went on. The movie, the story - it really worked back then.


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#287065
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Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287065/action/topic#287065
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When I first watched ROTJ, I searched my feelings and realized I was loosing a day's pay by calling in sick so I could go to the "big premiere".
Lucas owes me about 30 bucks - 1983 wages x 8 hours.

Well, I did rip the audio track of my Star Wars DVD and make a few copies of it (car, iPod, computer). I guess we're even after all these years.
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#286940
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Hello I'm new and have a question. (re StarWars.com and its message boards)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286940/action/topic#286940
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Originally posted by: CO
...they say they want all views of the movies, including SW '77 fans, OOT fans, yet they are the ones who are censored or shouted down because they don't conform to the Saga


Yeah, I lurked on a few other sites around the same time I found this one. It only took reading a few topics over there to see they aren't open to any sort of independent thought, and certainly not the truth about Star Wars or Lucas.

You better get on board with drinking the Kool Aid over there or you'll be hammered mercilessly. Truthfully, the amount of Lucas' lying and revisionist history they'll accept is shocking. It's as though they've completely abandoned the desire to think for themselves.

The truth about Star Wars is readily available, in the form of original scripts and interviews, to anyone who is interested. However, they not only don't want to know the truth, but they become almost violent with people who mention it's existence. It's like some sort of skewed type of Stockholm syndrome.

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#286673
Topic
Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286673/action/topic#286673
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On the off-chance that Sue comes back to see any responses;


I just love it when a random asshole calls me 8 because I love ROTJ.

Sue, if you weren't so quick to take offense and see I wasn't insulting people who like ROTJ, you would see that I was talking about the shift in the target fanbase - not describing the established fanbase. In fact, I wasn't insulting anyone. We were discussing Lucas' change in focus, story, and methods.

Most of your reasoning sounds like nothing but a sad snob who spends most of his/her time thinking about nothing but how to shoot down popular movies


If you spent some time here, you'd see that you just about couldn't be more wrong. I only watch one Star Wars movie - how in the world can I be a snob when I'm a fringe member of the fandom? Also, I seldom, if ever, shit on other popular movies. That's just not my deal.

There's some great people here, Sue. Intelligent, clever, witty, thought-provoking, etc. You'll learn a lot from them. I certainly have. My very small Star Wars world (one film) has grown substantially after having met these people. I'm more grateful than they know. Much more.

a random asshole


How come I can't be a regular asshole? <--- that's a joke Sue.
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#286245
Topic
What could have made the PT better?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286245/action/topic#286245
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Originally posted by: Forbidden Zone
I don't care if the shark in 'Jaws' looks fake, I watch it for those guys on the boat.

That's the essence of that film, the human interaction. Those guys don't particularly like each other, they don't have a great deal in common - and - they're in very close quarters, having to deal with those issues. The shark is just the external force that brings them together. That movie is thick with human interaction and emotion. A great example is when Ellen is saying goodbye to the chief, at the dock. She's already been through a lot and is barely holding together - but when she's walking away and Quint starts yelling at the crew, she finally breaks down and starts running away from there. She's that upset and afraid - and you can feel it. Great stuff. One of my all-time top ten films.


I think George has no clue on how to write a friendship because he has forgotten how to have one. He has surrounded himself by kiss-butts for too long.


There may be something to that. There isn't a series of checks and balances in his world anymore, nor has there been for quite some time. That's not usually a good thing.

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#286195
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Wanted: Looking for Star Wars poster for the NPR drama
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286195/action/topic#286195
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Yeah, the first one is high - even for an original (sort of). It's really just an original for when the CDs came out in 93, not when it was actually airing in 81. I'll get a reprint if I have to, but I'll have to see it in person first. I spent 22 years in the printing industry - I'll want to see the color and register before I settle. I'll still look around for an original for a while longer.

My thought was to send it around to some of the cast members and get it signed before I frame it. Considering the availability and cost of originals, a reprint might be the way to go.

Shouldn't be too hard to find mailing addresses for some of them. Mark Hamill would be easy to get a fan address for maybe. Perry King also. Ann Sachs runs a very respected theater restoration company in Manhattan. Since I go back to NYC several times a year, I could just take it by the main office.

Yeah - that wouldn't look pathetic..."Hi, Ann..um, I mean Miss Sachs. I'm a...I'm a big Star Wars fan...and I was just wondering if you'd sign my poster"
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#286072
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George Lucas calls Spiderman 3 'silly'
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286072/action/topic#286072
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Originally posted by: C3PX
It is entirely possible something has changed on the TV series front. Lucas is a pretty flacky guy...tends to change his mind a lot.

Man, that's for sure. When Lucas says he's planning a TV series based on whatever, and it's going to be ready in a few years - damn - that could mean anything in Lucasspeak.

It is annoying they are taking place between 3 and 4, does anybody even really care what happened during that time? I think it would be more interesting pre TPM or post ROTJ.


That's how I feel about anything else he does in the space genre. He has visited the known Star Wars universe way too many times already. I'd be interested to see something of his (maybe) if it came from some other area of the galaxy. It's worked very well for Star Trek. It could work for Star Wars also. The next ship doesn't have to be purchased from a guy who stole it from someone whose mother worked on Cloud City and the co-pilot doesn't have to be someone Chewie sat next to in the cantina.

George - Let go of the Adventures Of Luke Skywalker for a change and write us an outer space adventure again. And for God's sake - get off of Tatooine finally. It went from being - "if there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet that it's farthest from" - to being damn center stage in all that universe seems to be. Enough already. Take the advice of one of your own characters and "stretch out with your feelings".
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#286011
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Anyone else nostalgic to the PT?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286011/action/topic#286011
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Originally posted by: Nobody
Star Wars has many influences, but Lord of the Rings is one that I almost never hear mentioned, and it clearly provided a large amount of back-bone to the plot,


Many many years ago, long before I'd ever read Lord Of The Rings, a buddy of mine was always trying to get me to read it. He knew I was a huge Star Wars nerd and one of his favorite things to mention was how Star Wars was just Lord Of The Rings in space.

He was right.