Alexrd

BmB said:

 

You_Too said:

When you first look at it you think "Oh, they fixed some of the pink tint and it's less cropped too!" but then if you look closely at the path in the middle:

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See how they made this little part brighter?

Those small changes are enough of a reason to not use the blu-ray for a theatrical HD version.

The whole image is uniformly brighter. That one part is not changed anymore than the rest of the image is.

 

That's what I thought as well. The contrast looks fine, the brightness was due to the general colour correction made.

For those who are interested in an AotC preservation, which HDTV version will you use as a basis? I'm looking for one myself, but don't know what's the best version available (i.e: higher bitrate, etc...).

I quite liked the Gathering episode. It reminded me of the scene where Luke enters the cave on Dagobah. I specially liked the young Wookiee and Ithorian, who managed to show their struggle through emotions instead of talking to themselves (which looks unrealistic and feels forced).

Fang Zei said:

From the blu-ray screenshots I've seen, it strikes me as odd that TPM and ROTS look pretty much exactly as they should, but AOTC now looks different. I wonder why they made the decision to shift the color. Did they not have a 23.976p hdtv master from 2002 lying around?? Maybe they had to make a fresh telecine from the digital files for the blu-ray and the colorist - for whatever reason - added the teal. Ugh, it just doesn't look good.

TPM does look as it should (colour-wise), for the most part. AotC teal shift was a very last minute change (like the humdinger glitch) since according to people who were at the Comic Con presentation and the press junket, AotC didn't have that teal tint at the time. Even the small clips of the movie shown in the extras look fine.

Bingowings said:

You equated financial gain with artistic merit

No, I didn't. I merely said they were successful.

Bingowings said:

I already have.

No, you haven't. How does saying that the prequels were a success leads to "every Michael Bay film is a work of art"?

That's non sequitur.

At least admit that you misread my post. There is no shame in that.

Bingowings said:

you have a selective memory for what you write.

Selective? That only expands my point about its success (which was what I previously cited). Now show me the correlation with your post.

SilverWook said:

Thanks for posting that, Jetrell. The fact George is actually a nice guy is all too often lost in the shuffle.

It's possible to disagree with his stance on the originals, or not like one of his films, and respect his generosity at the same time.

Indeed. "Greedy old man" is often used against him, when he has proven time and time again that he's the opposite.

Bingowings said:

Alexrd said:

Bingowings said:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

And every Sparks album must be a bunch of dildos.

I don't understand how you've made those assumptions from what I wrote.

Try thinking about it for a bit and if you like post your musings.

If you'd rather not bother I can understand but I really don't feel the need to explain the obvious things I write.

I don't see what's obvious, aside from you not reading my posts. I said:

The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few.

How do you go from this, to:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

...

But yes, every film is art. If people like it or not is an whole different matter.

Bingowings said:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

And every Sparks album must be a bunch of dildos.

I don't understand how you've made those assumptions from what I wrote.

Bingowings said:

Yeah but the PT is crap.

From your point of view.

xhonzi said:

Oh, Alexrd... one of these days you will realize that almost everybody disagrees with you.

In regards to the PT, at least.

I say "few" within those who saw the movies and the fan community. They may be millions, but they're still few in comparison. The theater ticket, DVD and merchandising sales/records of the prequels speak for themselves.

Until then, my friend!

Until then, indeed. ;-)

NeverarGreat said:

Alexrd said:

1990osu said:

What was once a joke could now easily become reality.

How and why? The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few. There is simply no reason to reboot them. Same with the originals.

Same with the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy.

Slightly big difference: Sony had (and still has) to make a reboot/remake/sequel of Spider-Man from time to time in order to not loose the rights of the franchise back to Marvel. Disney doesn't have that risk. Besides, the prequels are one of the main reasons Star Wars has such an active fanbase today.

P.S: If they didn't do it to Tron, they won't do it to any Star Wars movie.

1990osu said:

What was once a joke could now easily become reality.

How and why? The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few. There is simply no reason to reboot them. Same with the originals.

Bingowings said:

Alexrd said:

Bingowings said:

I liked the Vong.

The idea of living beings that are not connected to the Force is ignoring the most basic "rules" of Star Wars. The idea of an enemy coming from another galaxy opens a whole can of worms and is too far-fetched for me to accept. So is living spaceships and the like.

I'd stay away from most of the classics of science fiction and space opera if I were you then.

Can't see the correlation.

Bingowings said:

I liked the Vong.

The idea of living beings that are not connected to the Force is ignoring the most basic "rules" of Star Wars. The idea of an enemy coming from another galaxy opens a whole can of worms and is too far-fetched for me to accept. So is living spaceships and the like.

That's why I don't like most of the EU and worry about Lucas absence. Most of EU authors appear to not understand Star Wars. It's like a bunch of wild fan ideas materialized. Fortunately Lucas spent some time teaching people like Filoni, Gilroy and the like how Star Wars works and how to do it right.

timdiggerm said:

Alexrd said:

Please, leave this guy as far from the franchise as possible.

Why?

Because of what he wrote, and because I think he has yet to prove himself to be a good director.

Please, leave this guy as far from the franchise as possible.

bilditup1 said:

Anchorhead said:

Alexrd said:

To me, anything Star Wars related...has to come from his mind

Considering I'm the polar opposite - I only follow\own\care about Star Wars that is non-Lucas - this has the potential to be positive.

Abrams got Star Trek back to it's roots, so maybe Disney can give the world something Star Wars other than the twirling colors, small galaxy, children's films that Lucas turned them into in 1983.

Side point - Abrams made Star Trek fun and interesting again, but brought it back to it's roots? Nah. He made it more like Star Wars (many parallels between the two films.)

Exactly what I was going to say. Making Star Wars with a new skin is not bringing ST to its roots.

1990osu said:

I am glad that Episode 7 is going to be based on George Lucas' story treatment.  That makes it all right somehow; we know it will be authentic.

Also, how much do you want to bet it turns out like "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi"- i.e. George is the creative consultant but as he watches the movies getting made, he can't help but start getting his hands in it again.

One can only hope. He needs to give as much input on the story as on the design.

For those who care about the future of LucasArts:

Disney CEO Robert Iger briefly discussed Disney's plans for game development using the intellectual properties acquired in the acquisition, saying, "We're likely to focus more on social and mobile than we are on console. We'll look opportunistically at console, most likely in licensing rather than publishing, but we think that given the nature of these characters and how well known they are, and the storytelling, that they lend themselves quite nicely, as they've already demonstrated to the other platforms."

Well, it was nice while it lasted.

RATLSNAKE said:

Alexrd said:

ratpack1961 said:

George has been absolutely lying for 10 plus years to us.

Here.

What balls! For all the evidence that we knew those pages existed, he and Lucasfilm tried to brand us as crazy Star Wars geeks or fan-boys, and now look.

Well, nobody knew the future. And they were right all along when they said that George won't make more Star Wars movies, that the (Anakin) Skywalker saga are the six episodes, etc, etc...

Did that help us assume that Episodes VII-IX were never going to be released and/or had ceased to exist? Yes. Does that contradict what they are saying now? No.

ben_danger said:

haha. what are the chances of a Joss Whedon Star Wars film?

3,720 to 1. Hopefully...

ADigitalMan said:

So, with Disney now in charge will we finally get the OUT on Blu?

With a "nice Disney castle" intro right before the movie.

Dunedain said:

Alexrd: Link doesn't work...

Fixed.

ratpack1961 said:

George has been absolutely lying for 10 plus years to us.

Here.

You know, I'm one of the few who doesn't hate George. On the contrary, actually. To me, anything Star Wars related (in terms of visuals and story) has to come from his mind and/or his acceptance. And I'm not sure if whatever movies come in the future will have that. Love or hate the prequels, all six movies share many qualities, styles, themes and the like. And without him, I'm not sure we will ever get that again.

On the positive side, we may actually get the OUT. But I never wanted to pay this "price" for them.

Overall, these are very bad news in my opinion.

Jetrell Fo said:

I know adywan did a color correction of the TB version of TPM....you could probably use that as a basis.

Maybe. Although he colour corrected it by removing the pink tint present on the DVD version (pretty much like AotC now has a teal tint). On the other hand, I'll be using unfiltered frames and other pictures as reference. The OS has some of those.

P.S: Do you happen to know what's the best HDTV version of AotC available?