Alderaan94

I have seen that there is a good ammount of versions of the original unaltered trilogy, and i am a bit confused about which is the best option to watch them.
If i understood well, 4Kxx are the more accurate to the original, but i also read that Blu Ray source (that was used in Despecialized) are from the original camera negative… So what is the difference between that source and the one used for 4kxx?

I have also noticed that the epic force ghosts scene in ROTJ looks different in every version.
Check this screenshots:

From 4K83 DrReel Color Correction (4K83 1.6)
https://i.imgur.com/lbQaGAE.png

From Harmy Despecialized v2.5 (newest version), clearly looks more “blue”. Why?
https://imgur.com/sLur4VQ

From 97 Special Edition :Again there is a color change? Now looking more “grey”.
https://imgur.com/NypkA7m

Which of this is the more similar to the way it was shown in ´83 cinema?

Hello!
I would like to share some fan edits in the future but idk the legal status. I am from Spain and i own the BRs , source material. Is It legal to announce a fan edit and announce that i share links to download it for example to Google Drive ? What happens if someone Who downloaded it puts it on sale like happened with Harmy Despecialized that was sold in eBay?

Jar Jar force ghost in ROTJ.

I am doing a Star Wars: The Phantom Menace edit and i need to delete some lines from the english subtitles due to scene-edit. There will be a full english version without any subtitles and one with the spanish subtitles integrated to video.
So i would need to eliminate some lines directly from the pgs/Blu-Ray subtitles that were put to the video with ffmepg.

Until now i didn´t manage to make it. DOes someone know how i can make it?

I personally prefer 97 Coruscant over 2004. But this edit it could be done also with 04 Coruscant, but that would require combining Tatooine-Corusant transition with Blu Ray Coruscant scene.

So, to put some order in the process so far.

1- yotsuya: Uses 4K83 until movie switches from Luke’s face to the distance shot of him standing in front of the pyre that then pans up. From there uses his own 97 SE until it pans back down to Endor again. Then he puts in the BR until Luke sees the Force Ghosts appear. Then back to 4K83, but cut to match the 97 SE and BR (as in that versions that scene is splitted).

VIDEO SOURCES USED:
-97 SE (own copy)
-BR
-4K83
Both SE and BR added some grain to fit with 4K83.

AUDIO SOURCES:
-4K83
-Laserdisc AC3

2-SparkySywer: Uses Harmy DE v2.5 except Planets Celebration scene where SE 97 Trillary Dump’s Restoration is used and BR for just the added shots.

VIDEO SOURCES USED:
-SE 97 Trillary Dump’s Restoration
-BR
-Harmy Despecialized Edition v2.5

AUDIO SOURCES:
-Harmy Despecialized Edition v2.5
-SE 97 Trillary Dump’s Restoration

Possible future edit:
-It would basically be like the two above but using Disney 4k instead of the BR and that new 97 Restoration you mentioned.

Is it all correct?

WoW this is fantastic! 4K83 looks really good in 720p and the ending is perfectly edited.

I think SparkySywer was doing it in a different way. Besides using Harmy instead of 4K83 (i personally prefer 4K83) , if i am correct he is using 97 only for the Tatooine-Coruscant transition, using BR for the general Bespin, Tatooine and Corusant scene and First Endor shot ( so It has the edited Jedi Temple and Senate) and I dont know how he managed to change from the 97 transition to BR Coruscant without being noticeable but that is also good.

I personally really like how that test video looks, but maybe is possible to put BR since Luke in front of the pyre, then Bespin BR then Tatooine BR , then 97 Tatooine-Coruscant transition and Coruscant , then BR first Endor scene ( that i also see very blurry specially in the sky in your 97 version, i suppose that is inherent to all 97 versions avaliable due to SD). Then continuing exactly as in your edit.

What do you think?

I dont know if that is possible. Personally, i think how you did It is really good but ofc it would look more HD if is possible to replace Tatoooine, Bespin and the first Endor shot.

yotsuya said:

Yeah, I do all my editing with just stereo audio and then edit the 5.1 mix separately to fit the video and stereo. If you have a clean splice at one or two given points it is pretty easy. From what you describe you want the 1983 version up until that scene and then the 97 version for a bit, and then go back to the 1983 end credits. visually the end credits can be changed after the title card portion when it switches to the crawl. Sound wise that is a harder edit. For the 97 SE the repeated a section of the end credit music so you need to find a spot before that repeat to make your audio splice that won’t be noticeable, or just fix the end credit music by removing that repeat.

That is a problem, yes. SparkySywer, how you did with the end credits? I think best would be using Harmy since when it switches to the crawl like you said and removing the repeat section in SE audio, but still you will need to switch again to Harmy audio because i think SE uses aditional music during the Special Edition credits so you can´t just remove the repeated section and continue with SE music.

SparkySywer said:

Bruh I was telling you in PM I already made this years ago I just need to rerender it : (

As for why Trillary Dump’s restoration looks blurry there, it’s because the footage is taken from an upscaled 576i PAL DVD, which is the highest quality version of the scene in that form, at least until that film scan comes out. Unless you’re willing to have Naboo in the planets sequence (which is inaccurate to the '97 ending, plus it has Gungans in it, one of which says “Meesa free!”), this is the best we have right now.

Replacing the Endor shot with Harmy Despecialized would take care of that particular part, but the whole sequence is DVD quality, and you can’t replace the whole thing with Harmy or the Blu Ray.

Hello¡

Sorry, i was not understanding so i wrote this post. My english is not perfect and i didn´t understand what you were saying.

You are using Blu Ray for most of the ending, except Tatoiine-Coruscant transition and Hayden part right?
And… Which Sebastian Shaw footage are you using, the one from 97 Restoration or Harmy DE version? Ghosts look quite different in both versions, with Harmy´s ghosts looking more blue and illuminated.

Hello!

I am working on a ROTJ edit that combines Harmy Despecialized Edition 2.5 with the ending of trillary dump’s 97’s Special Edition HD restored.

I am having a lot of problems with this project, that shouldn’t be too much difficult, because my Sony Vegas Pro 16 is not importing neither Despecialized m2ts nor 97’s reconstruction MP4 ( converted from MKV) correctly. DE just can’t being imported in m2ts even after remuxing and keeping just video and one audio track.

I tried to convert it to MP4, converting DTS HD MA 5.1 or Stereo to AC3 and It doesnt work.

Vegas is able to import the video only in MP4 format but the audio track is not working, when i play the timeline there is just an annoying blurrying sound.

That edit would consist basically in:

• Harmy Despecialized Edition until Ewok’s are celebrating on Endor before Han and Leía scene. So DE would stop right after Han looks to the sky on Death Star destruction.

• Then It changes to 97’s version with Han-Leia dialogue , Luke fire scene , planet celebrations.

• I have noticed that first Endor shot after Coruscant looks too much blurry ( and some kind of pixelated) and dark in the restoration so i would put instead Despecialized version of that same shot that does not feature overlapped Ewok’s and it can be easily put in transition with a bit cut (at the end due to the original transition) Coruscant scene.

• Then the edit continues with the 97’s ending celebration and features just the Despecialized Edition end credits.

If someone know how to fix that problems or is able to make this edit with other programs please any help would be welcome. I dont have much experience doing advanced edit.

Main problem to make it is that Despecialized Edition is on 720p while Return of the Jedi BR versions with Sebastian Shaw’s ghost are 1080p. Also the Semispecialized Edition that included 1997 ending in good quality has a strange resol of 1920 x 824p. So is difficult to combine them. Any help to make this is welcome !

Hello!
My question is simple, is there any fan edit that combines original Unaltered ROTJ but with the 1997 ending ? I mean just changing the ending scene.
Cheers!

Thx mate. I think Batman Forever: Red Book Edition is the more similar to what i am looking for but seems is Lost. I didnt find It in any place.

Hello people¡ I would like to know if there is a version of Batman Forever, official or fan-edit, that includes the deleted scenes and changes some things. I have never watched that film, but i saw some scenes in youtube and that keeps me hyped 😄 Problem is that later i found out that the film has a lot of silly jokes, bad reviews, extravagant
and campy villains… I am fan of the two Burton´s films, so i would like to know if there is some version of the film i could watch and enjoy.
Regards
Antonio

Hello. I have been working since years in a fan-edit of the last of the classic Star Trek movies. The result, in therms of movie quality, is excellent i think. But in this process, i had to “create” some VFX using Sony Vegas Pro 15 to replace the green-screens in the deleted scenes with some background, and also fixing colour problems, trying to get closer to the quality of the non-deleted scenes, as the difference is yet bigger in the Blu Ray version of this Fan-Edit.

I did my best, but i know the result is not as good as it could be. I would appreciate very much if someone here could help me fixing the deleted scenes. Someone with experience in Chroma Keyer and Colour/Contrast fixing.

Greetings from Spain 😃

Hello. I am working with one friend in a Fan-Edit of the three prequel movies. We are from Spain and we will make them both in English and English with spanish subtittles. We have a problem with the spanish subtittles. We hardcode them to the movie using ffmepg, the command-line sofware we use for that, but it does not support SUP/pgs subtittles. This means we need to convert them to SRT. I tried to convert the PGS/SUP subtittles i obtained from the official Blu-Rays of the prequels to SRT using SubittleEdit program, and online using https://subtitletools.com/, but the result is not good, with a lot of errors like two words joined, or wrong letters. Do you guys know how can i convert the Blu Ray subtittles to SRT without any error?

GeckoTH said:

Man, I love seeing all these covers that have been created – really fantastic work all around!

Does anyone happen to have a link to this set of covers made by Video Collector that they’d be willing to send me?

I tried PM’ing him a while ago, so far no dice.
Oh, and if you happen to have the Despecialized variants he made for the OT, that’d be a bonus!

Hello, Does anyone have a link to this set of covers? (Created by Video Collector)

Hello¡ I downloaded subtittles from Threepio to put them via MKV Merge GUI into the Star Wars ESB Despecialized 2.0 720p and when i open the video file (MKV) in the PC i can see the subtittles perfectly (in all formats), but when i put the film in a USB and i open it on a Blu Ray Player i can switch to Subtittles: Yes, but i have the following problems:
-When i put SRT spa-es-full there are some lines that does not appear enterily in the screen. For example when Luke talks with Han Solo at the beginning about the Empire probe.
-When i put SUP subtitles they appear perfectly in PC but when in the Blu Ray i cant see them when i switch to Subtittles: Yes. This happens with both 720p and 1080p SUP Subtittles.

Yeah. Matte boxes. Specially visible in ROTJ when the final space battle.

Hello guys¡ I recently watched ROTJ SemiEspecialized v2.15 and i noticed there are some “squares” around the ships in some space scenes that, for example, were not present when i saw Despecialized or the Special Edition. Do you know if it´s an error or is of the own film? and why is not in the other versions?

Hello¡ I get ROTJ semidespecialized in a 22GB mkv. Which one is this? Looks very good, but i noticed some mattes distortion in space ships. Is that normal? Also picture has good quality but some grain. Any knows why? Im not used to this versions so maybe all is fine.

Ah, okeyy, didn´t know. Thanks you 😃

Hello¡ Does someone know how transfer 25GB MKV to a USB? I tried with one and it says USB System doesnt allow copy into it so heavy files.

Hey CatBus¡ Could you send me Spanish Subtitles for the Despecialized Return of the Jedi?

I hope this film would be more than intrepid adventures and special-effects. As "The Making of Star Wars" (1977 Documental) said, the power of StarWars was in its romantic feeling, inspiring young people about get what we dream. Whitout that, we´ll se another failed attempt to emulate the magic of the originals. Im not very optimistic, since i saw much CGI and "like Transformers" explosions and fire in the Tráiler.