That, plus the fact that the PT consistently portrays the Jedi as absolutists and the Sith as relativists, thus rendering Obi-Wan's comment not only philsophically self-defeating ("only a Sith deals in absolutes" is an absolute statement), but also demonstrably incorrect and hypocritical.
That's a really great idea; the only problem being that only Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are shown with ignited sabres in TPM to begin with, so there's really not much opportunity to show such diversity...
My sincerest condolences to you and your family, Ady. I'm glad to hear that her last few hours were painless. Just to echo what everyone has said, don't feel any obligation to the edit or to any of us; just take care of what's important right now, and the small potatoes can wait for another day.
He also cut Obi-Wan's absurd response: "Only a sith deals in absolutes."
The Emperor is dead and suddenly stormtroopers are crowd surfing on Coruscant amidst fireworks.
That stormtrooper wasn't crowd surfing; he was being thrashed by an angry mob sick and tired of Imperial repression! Do you really think lifting things from the Wizard of Oz will make for a more believable ending? Maybe rather than falling down the reactor shaft, the emperor can float away in a hot air balloon, and Luke goes home to Tatooine by clicking his ruby slippers together...
Oh, man; I'm truly sorry to hear about what you're going through, Ady. My thoughts, prayers, and sincerest sympathies are with you and your family.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!
But seriously would he have been worse than Hayden.
No; just equally atrocious and artificial.
Moreover, it makes perfectly good sense that Leia, who is an Alderaanian princess, secretly a rebel, and also "a member of the Imperial Senate," would go on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan, and use it as a smokescreen to conduct rebel business. It does not make any sense, given what little we know of the entities and institutions in Phantom Menace, that the "Trade Federation" would blockade Naboo over a "taxation of trade routes" dispute.
Using crises and altercations as pretext for something else is permitted, but they still have to at least make sense, or it's a case of lazy storytelling.
Ripplin said:
vaderios said:
PS: i still like the awesome face that the copckit has lol
And that's the reason I don't like it. No happy Imperial ships! :p
Is this better, Ripplin? ;-P
You actually thought ROTS' ending was "very good" and "on par with the OT"? That's asinine. It was basically a rushed, poorly-executed attempt to tie up all the loose ends left dangling and cover over the legion of unresolved plotholes with a thin layer of pretty CGI and overly-contrived, cartoonish, boringly long lightsabre battles. Add the this total failure Padme's "losing the will to live," Yoda's undignified frog-hopping, Palpatine's transformation into a laughably bad self-parody, and the unwillingness or else inability to adequately set things up for the next movie (ANH), and you're left with nothing more than a steaming pile of sith. (Haw haw.)
Personally, I've come to see TPM, as unwatchably bad as it is, as a lot closer to the spirit of the OT than either of its sequels. At least that one felt a little like Star Wars, even though it was cringe-inducing and stupid. AOTC and ROTS have just chucked sincerity and fun out the window, and have settled for PS2 video-game sequences and "romance drama" that feels like a twelve year old wrote it.
And the Fraggle Rock characters in Jabba's Palace, singing that ineffably stupid "Jedi Rocks" song. I don't know anyone who thinks that was a good idea.
On a slightly lower level of stupidity, but still quite awful, are the beak on the Sarlaac and Vader's unnecessary shuttle trip. The former looks like claymation and totally undermines the "ominous" feel of the scene, settling instead for cheap laughs and "wow" factor. The latter disrupts the entire pace of the chase scene and adds totally unnecessary exposition.
We didn't have Nintendo; we just poured salt on snails.
Like Snickers, guaranteed to satisfy.
ron2112 said:
...the walls in this shot appear to have been made out of some special substance that cancels out all color information in any light it reflects. That would be a neat trick. I doubt one could come close to reproducing this effect in the real world.
I totally see where you're coming from, but assuming such a metal exists in the Star Wars universe, wouldn't it be completely in the Empire's character to use it in their ships, especially the DS? I just love that it seems to suck the colour and life out of everything (especially with stormtroopers in black and white armor, grey uniforms on most officers, and Vader's black suit), just exactly what the Empire's doing to the life and vibrancy in the universe. (Admittedly, the one red room in the DS kinda throws a monkey wrench into this way of thinking...)
I know I'm only one man and several people disliked the monochromatic look to the DS in ANH:R, but I personally found it really interesting and appealing both visually and symbolically. The Empire is in the business of snuffing out life, which is the whole idea behind a Death Star, and the ship's very colouring seems to reflect this (if you'll pardon the pun). Luke & co. are a small corner of colour in a lifeless and colourless world on this diabolical machine; it just kinda enhances the feeling that something about this space station is inherently wrong and unnatural.
Plus, after the blue metal travesty of the 2004 DVDs, I just found something a little greyer absolutely delightful.
You forgot: Ric Olie likes this.
Oh, man. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family, Ady. Take all the time you need; the project, and we your loyal fans, can wait. Family's more important. :)
Stick it to tha man!
PSYCHO DAVY. He tends to type in all caps.
Ok, I see where you're going with that, but it begs the question: why? What possible reason could Sidious have for issuing such an order?
The ROTJ Tatooine trip actually made a little sense, considering the fact that we first meet Han there in ANH and are concurrently informed of the price on his head. It's not a huge stretch of logic to see Jabba as connected with Tatooine, particularly if you grant the SE Jabba scene as authentic. Add to that the fact that Fett delivers Han to Jabba, and you've got a nice little coincidence in the appearance of this "backwater" planet twice in the trilogy, but by no means an unbelievable or overly "convenient" one.
PT Tatooine superfluousness, on the other hand, just stretches credulity to the breaking point.
bkev said:
skyjedi2005 said:
I will start the thread off, you guys can add others if you like.
Episode III:
"only a sith deals in absolutes"- Obi wan Kenobi
I actually don't mind this line. Makes sense that in someone's anger they might only see black and white. Of course, it would have gone better in a different context.
But it makes absolutely no sense. As Xhonzi pointed out, the statement is philosophically self-defeating (it's like "there are no absolutes...absolutely none!"). Moreover, it's demonstrably absurd: check out the different ways Jedi and Sith philosophy is presented throughout the PT, and you'll find it's actually exactly opposite what Obi-Wan claims. The Jedi only see black and white, while the Sith are all about playing in the shadowy grey areas. Recall Palpatine's line in you will: "The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way, including their quest for greater power." Sounds a lot more like moral relativism than dogmatic absolutism to me.
So, George managed to paint a perfectly clear picture of relativistic Sith and thoroughly absolutist Jedi, but then in his desire to shoehorn a Bush-bash into his last Star Wars movie, simultaneously demonstrated that he doesn't even understand the core beliefs and methods of the very characters and movements he created. Strange, innit?
Have you, in fact, got any cheese here at all?
Probably, "I have a great idea, guys! We've already made a frog-creature and a giraffe-creature, so I really feel that we've explored the animal kingdom. But get this: what if we had a vegetable-creature? Maybe one the looks kinda like an ear of corn. Whaddya think?"
Yes-men proceed to assure frantically that the idea is genius and doesn't suck at all. Then the idea gets sent down to the animators, and bob's your uncle.
And he's courteous enough to take off his shoes when he comes onboard!