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Adamwankenobi

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#160640
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Found this quote from Lucas about the Fans from May '05
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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by: juicerino
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
TPM and AOTC?!? Fanatical?!? OK, I don't think I would go that far! I like TPM and AOTC, but not like that. What was he thinking? No one is fanatical about TPM and AOTC!


sure they are dude. they're called 10 year old boys. it has become more and more clear. the original star wars appealed to many different age groups, with boys from 13 to 21 being a great portion. these new films are geared for younger kids, and that is a great inherent flaw. its easy for little kids to just love the ships and effects and not even worry about the lack in all other departments, where as 18 year old dudes will pick apart a movie and make sure they know why they like it. that is why you fail George Lucas.


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Totally agree with you and that is why the PT, especially TPM & AOTC, will not pass the test of time 10-20 years from now. When I was 10 years old, and saw Jedi in the theaters, I loved it, to me it was just as good as the original, as I thought at the time ESB was too dark for me.

Fast forward 20 years later, and the consesus among older fans is Star Wars & ESB are debated for the #1 spot, and Jedi is clearly #3, still a very good movie, but as you get older you notice The Ewoks, and realize the Wookie Planet could have been cooler, but we all love the ending, cause it is made for the adults.

Now TPM, these kids who like it now because it looks cool, and great special effects, the Darth Maul duel is action-packed, and Jar Jar is sort-a funny will look back at many of things they loved, and will have grown out of them.

Same with AOTC, as they get older they will wince more at the love story, and begin to notice C-3PO's bad lines in the middle of the clone wars. And think the whole Jango Fett being Boba Fett's father was totally unnecessary.

ROTS, will atleast still have appeal, because it didn't dumb down the movie alot, but by then as they look at the trilogy, and just really like one movie, Star Wars will be an afterthought cause there will be some movie that comes along with better effects and cooler action.

The reason why the OT holds up 28 years later, is the characters! Han, Luke, Leia are the reason those films are lovable. Darth Vader is the ultimate bad guy, especially in ESB. ObiWan is the class of the trilogy, as we can always say we have an academy award winner in our movies, and The Emperor (before his over the top performance in ROTS), Chewbacca, Lando Calrissian, Boba Fett, R2-D2, and C-3PO were some of the most memorable secondary characters. And of course the millenium falcon, the coolest spaceship in the history of movies.

To our generation who grew up with the OT, the special effects and the action made the movies THAT much better, but in the end it is the story and characters that hold up. Hence why we want an inferior effects O-OT on DVD.


I agree... mostly. You have reinforced my point that the three "great" SW films are ROTS, ANH, and ESB, while the threee that "lack" are TPM, AOTC, and ROTJ. What I hate, though, are those kids who love the PT, but don't care for the OT. Those people really piss me off, because it's obvious that they only like them for the "cool" effects and flashy scenes, and couldn't care less about the story..
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#160608
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If you could decide on the next release of the DVD's.
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Originally posted by: Tim Lehrbach
What would you do, (say you where given creative and marketing control of the next release of the SW DVD boxset.)

1.Release a two sided disk boxset for all three movies. On one side have the Original Trilogy, on the other the SE.

2.Release a two sided disk boxset for all six movies. On one side have the Original Theatrical version, on the other the SE version.

3.Only release the OT Definitive Collection/Faces version.

4.Improve or clean up the OOT existing effects/mattes, but add nothing new (no new backgrounds,animations,ships.)


I would do number 2 (no pun intended). Except I would make a few more changes to the SE. This way, assuming I was Lucas, I could have my definitive version, while giving the audience the original versions as well. That way, they could have a choice: If they are purists, they would get what they want, plus the new versions to marvel at if they choose. If they like the changes (like I do), then they will have what they want, yet will have the original versions also, so thsat they can see the difference in the two. Plus, having two versions for each film would give me an excuse to charge more for the set, and therefore more $$$$.
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#160584
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Found this quote from Lucas about changing the Original SW
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I actually went out and found that review you were talking about, Adam. Am I the only one who finds it strange that he doesn't know that Anakin is Darth Vader, yet he refers to Palpatine as The Emperor, a name that is barely used to refer to him in the prequels at all? It makes me wonder if it's real.


Yes, strange indeed.