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- #783741
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- Movies that were updated, then the original was "lost"(other than Star Wars)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783741/action/topic#783741
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- Post
- #783738
- Topic
- Guess The Titles the STAR WARS Sequels... just for fun.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783738/action/topic#783738
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens
Episode VIII: The Force Goes Back to Sleep
Episode IX: Kira Rey Stabs the Force Right In the Whills
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- #783737
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- Movies that were updated, then the original was "lost"(other than Star Wars)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783737/action/topic#783737
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Mavimao said:
darth_ender said:
I believe some additional scenes were included since the DVD release of Star Trek VI, and I don't think the theatrical version is available anymore.
The Bluray editions of all the films are the theatrical versions. The first time for several on home video!
I wouldn't mind a Blu-ray release of the "VHS version" of The Undiscovered Country (with the extra scenes with Rene Auberjonois as Colonel West, but not the silly mid-2000s alterations of an important scene from the last DVD version).
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- #783736
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- Last movie seen
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783736/action/topic#783736
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TV's Frink said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
Tobar said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
Plus, it had Keanu Reeves; virtually every movie he appears in is ruined by his mere presence.
Not a fan of the movie
I'm shocked.
I don't see any gambling going on around here.
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- #783568
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- No official relese of "Return of the Ewok" is unexceptable.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783568/action/topic#783568
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Maybe it's the Devil Chicken.
Madre de Dios!
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- #783521
- Topic
- Movies that were updated, then the original was "lost"(other than Star Wars)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783521/action/topic#783521
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The original Lon Chaney Phantom of the Opera kind of counts -- the silent 1925 cut was later re-released in 1930 as a sound film with half the film entirely reshot. The original version survives only in 16mm prints of such poor quality that it's often omitted entirely in home video re-releases. (Kind of like the GOUT on DVD...)
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- #783495
- Topic
- No official relese of "Return of the Ewok" is unexceptable.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783495/action/topic#783495
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DuracellEnergizer said:
Neglify said:
I want to see the Star Wars Christ Mad Special.
Jesus healing the OT of its SE sicknesses ... entering Skywalker Ranch and pushing all the computers over onto the floor ... criticizing the anti-OOT fantards for their hypocrisy ... driving the demons out of ol' George ...
Yeah, I definitely want to see this, too.
"Did I not counsel you, Lord, to forbid his staff? That fool Hama has betrayed us!"
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- #783493
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- No official relese of "Return of the Ewok" is unexceptable.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783493/action/topic#783493
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As far as I'm aware, Warwick Davis never actually *finished* Return of the Ewok...
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- #783255
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- The Semi-Random Random Pictures and Thoughts Thread [NSFW]
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783255/action/topic#783255
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I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.
(Eccl. 9:11)
"When Lucifer fell, he did not fall alone."
Wälse!
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- #783250
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- The Semi-Random Random Pictures and Thoughts Thread [NSFW]
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783250/action/topic#783250
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‘These we will take!’ said Gandalf suddenly. He cast aside his cloak and a white light shone forth like a sword in that black place. Before his upraised hand the foul Messenger recoiled, and Gandalf coming seized and took from him the tokens: coat, cloak, and sword. ‘These we will take in memory of our friend,’ he cried. ‘But as for your terms, we reject them utterly. Get you gone, for your embassy is over and death is near to you. We did not come here to waste words in treating with Sauron, faithless and accursed; still less with one of his slaves. Begone!’
TYRELL
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long. And you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy.
Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?
Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?
Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing?
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing?
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow;
The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.
Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning,
Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?
The radio message beamed to Earth, moments before the blast of radiation engulfed the ship, was in plain text and merely repeated over and over:
ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA.
ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE.
There were ninety-three repetitions; then the letters became garbled, and the transmission abruptly ceased between EXCEPT and EUROPA.
-- Arthur C. Clarke, 2010: Odyssey Two, chapter 53: "A Gift of Worlds"
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- #783248
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- The Semi-Random Random Pictures and Thoughts Thread [NSFW]
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783248/action/topic#783248
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*blows dust off thread*
Whew!
There was a silence. The old man did not move in his chair. At length Gandalf spoke. ‘Hail, Théoden son of Thengel! I have returned. For behold! the storm comes, and now all friends should gather together, lest each singly be destroyed.’
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
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The world is too much with us; late and soon,
Getting and spending, we lay waste our powers;
Little we see in Nature that is ours;
We have given our hearts away, a sordid boon!
‘But I say to thee, Gandalf Mithrandir, I will not be thy tool! I am Steward of the House of Anárion. I will not step down to be the dotard chamberlain of an upstart. Even were his claim proved to me, still he comes but of the line of Isildur. I will not bow to such a one, last of a ragged house long bereft of lordship and dignity.’
‘What then would you have,’ said Gandalf, ‘if your will could have its way?’
‘I would have things as they were in all the days of my life,’ answered Denethor, ‘and in the days of my longfathers before me: to be the Lord of this City in peace, and leave my chair to a son after me, who would be his own master and no wizard’s pupil. But if doom denies this to me, then I will have naught: neither life diminished, nor love halved, nor honour abated.’
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- #783245
- Topic
- Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/783245/action/topic#783245
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joefavs said:
This new uniform and especially Hux's overcoat in the SDCC stills have a real early 20th century European vibe. It's an interesting look that I don't think we've really seen before.
It is very John Mollo, though.
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- #782055
- Topic
- The new Star Wars comics - a general discussion thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/782055/action/topic#782055
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I thought Luke was Mara Jade.
But anyway, Luke ends up fighting both of them in that level.
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- #781973
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- Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/781973/action/topic#781973
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ZkinandBonez said:
ray_afraid said:
^Right. Which is why they can nickname someone Porkins even though there may or may not be pigs in space. It's for the audience to relate to. Like Han saying "I'll see you in Hell!" That doesn't necessarily mean there's a religion in that galaxy that believes in Heaven and Hell.
Right. Same reason someone can be called Droopy McCool or Wicket W. Warrick. It doesn't always have to make perfect sense. It is after all a set of films about fictional characters. I often wish the EU writers would realize this. I can't help but roll my eyes sometimes when I read about characters or species on Wookiepedia.
For example; you can get a pretty extensive analysis of the biolgy and appearance of the Sarlacc. I personally can't help but feel that we never needed an answers to these kinds of questions, and that many of them should never have been answered. I actually preffered to not know what a full Sarlacc looked like. I enjoyed the mystery surrounding the image of a large gaping mouth in the desert. It had a nice and weird fantasy feel to it. It was more about impact, than an attempt at realism. But now it's just another funky-looking animal that you can look up on a wiki.
You kind of lose some of the magic with this kind of over-analysis. It don't need a full explanation, it's not real life.
I don't mind silly names too much for minor characters, as long as they're buried in the credits -- in that case they can be good for a laugh. But I imagine EU authors aren't too fond of being burdened with them.
Still, it seems to me that a creative writer could rather easily come up with an amusing story behind certain names like "Elan Sleazebaggano". That's a far better idea for my money than him simply being renamed "Elan Sel'Sabagno" in a magazine column on "canon", complete with yet another clichéd Ap'ostro'phe of A'lien Nom'encla'ture.
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- #781970
- Topic
- The Semi-Random Random Pictures and Thoughts Thread [NSFW]
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/781970/action/topic#781970
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"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times."
Message, Spock?
Besides the obvious, of course.
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- #781969
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- General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/781969/action/topic#781969
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towne32 said:
Has anyone else noticed the file layout of the ANH blu-ray.
It's kind of interesting (as much as a file layout can be, at least), that the film is encoded entirely in one m2ts, except for the intro. Everything up through the crawl, until the final frame of the flyover, is in a separate file.
Is there an obvious reason they might have done that? Or is it possible that they were considering an alternatively branched crawl? Not quite sure what the point would have been for the latter, sticking the 1977 crawl on a screwy version of the film.
Just thought it was kind of interesting that an important branching/splicing point for both fan editing and the film's history was utilized for some reason here.
An Easter Egg for fans combing through the files?
Seriously, though, that file structure might make more sense if, instead of putting the 1977 crawl in front of the current SE, they'd wanted to attach the 1981-1997 OOT version of the film after the current crawl.
Odd.
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- #781968
- Topic
- The new Star Wars comics - a general discussion thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/781968/action/topic#781968
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That's just silly. Vader is Vader, not Kyle Katarn.
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- #780989
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- Last movie seen
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/780989/action/topic#780989
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The Holy Mountain (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1973)
WTF did I just watch?
8.9/10 armored frogs.
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- #780846
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- Last movie seen
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/780846/action/topic#780846
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I've just watched the deleted scenes of Blade Runner from the Final Cut Blu-ray. It's really amazing how, when put together in one long reel, they're essentially a 45-minute-long parallel cut of the entire film.
Not only that: in my opinion, the much-derided voice-over and (now rather less) "happy ending" as seen here actually work much better than in the theatrical cut. Probably because the camera in the deleted scenes rarely moves far from Deckard, so this "alternate cut" of sorts feels more novelistic overall. (Of course the fact that Ford's narration is entirely different than in the 1982 releases helps immensely too.)
One other detail I liked is seeing Tyrell complain in a note to his personal chefs that his evening glass of milk is "still too hot". This shows the screenwriters really doing their research for the idea of an Asian-dominated future LA; the tradition in China even today is to drink one's milk and water hot, as traditional Chinese medicine thought drinking cold liquids was dangerously unhealthy.
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- #780713
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- Last movie seen
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/780713/action/topic#780713
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*sneaks back into thread*
Also, more on topic...
Blade Runner.
There, I said it. I confess: I hadn't ever seen this film until a couple of days ago.
(Where has it been all my life?!?)
4.8 out of 5 hockey masks, largely because it took 25 years to get a proper Director's Cut released.
*grumbles a bit about certain Hollywood executives' vanity and grudge-bearing*
Right.
I'll also say, I was quite amused when I read through the shooting script and found the establishing shot was described as "EXT: HADES - DUSK."
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- #780700
- Topic
- Last movie seen
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/780700/action/topic#780700
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captainsolo said:
Jaws
While the BD could be better (and it should being a 4K neg scan) it is nowhere near as bad as a Uni title usually is. The mono is intact with only a spot or two of distortion.
A great film that deserves more recognition of its technique and understanding of characters. This is why I frequently point to its heavy debt to both Duel and Sugarland Express; without these there would be no Jaws.
One of the great happy accidents that at least is polished up to a respectable BD but not truly what it could have been.
The 7.1 upmix is tamer than the atrocious 5.1 for DVD, but still totally out of place and ruins much of the ambiance in favor of a new soundfield experience. Completely unnecessary and prevents the mono from a having a restored 24 bit lossless presentation-AS IT SHOULD HAVE-as it really represents (along with SW) the pinnacle of mono mixing just before the jump to Dolby Stereo.
I still find it weird the for color they stayed very close to the old transfers. That shouldn't always be the case but I found this blurb from the SVP of technical operations which made me anxious:
Using colour as an example, we don’t just colour our films on the fly. We have everything that was previously done and because we’ve done this over and over again, from original theatrical release, when we did it for VHS, and when we did it for DVD, we have those tapes as our guide. That’s why it’s so simple: we match to the last look, which was already matched to the original look. There’s always a few tweaks that you want to do, but overall it matches what has come before.
*facepalm to infinity*
I always thought the older master (1995 signature LD, recycled for DVDs) was fairly accurate but you cannot go by this stuff alone for accuracy. Just popping in the '92 WS disc shows boosted contrast and color that is already different and obvious.
The few Spielberg tweaks are very minor and seem to have to do with brightening the darker scenes-i.e. the opening. This goes with the tweak to the Raiders opening and how HD video today works far differently to the pitch blacks from the film world then. Personally I think you should never mess with this stuff as maintaining those blacks is the integrity of the original scene as shot and presented-but you risk losing people today on their HDTVs. So it's not bad necessarily...but it's still tweaked nonetheless.
*joins in facepalming*
It's as if that lab technician has never heard of the kids' game "Telephone."
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- #779776
- Topic
- General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/779776/action/topic#779776
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Windexed said:
A quick thought popped into my head while staring off into space at work. I would in no way be offended if JJ was to digitally manipulate Carrie Fisher's voice in TFA.
No one asked for any opinion of yours, foolish mortal. ;)
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- #779707
- Topic
- [fill in the blank] Just Died!
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/779707/action/topic#779707
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Stay puffy, Marshmallow Man.
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- #779452
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- Happy 4th of July! 2015
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/779452/action/topic#779452
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Well, as long as we've *had* an official national anthem, it's been that song.
Or maybe it "has be"?
Apologies for the pedantry.
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- #779450
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- Happy 4th of July! 2015
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/779450/action/topic#779450
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Warbler said:
Mrebo said:
Hope everyone had a good 4th of July. The Muppets reaffirm my conviction that we should change our national anthem to America the Beautiful.
No, negative, not, can't, won't, don't.
Our national anthem has, is and will always be The Star Spangled Banner and that's that.
I think you mean The Defence of Fort M'Henry, good sir. ;)
NB: In case it isn't obvious, M'Henry is an old-fashioned alternate spelling for McHenry, so don't go getting any funny ideas about the pronunciation.
Feel free, however, to joke about the fact that the American national anthem's original title was spelled using British English.