In fact, Kasdan actually wrote Yoda's line as "We must search for another." Lucas changed it to "No, there is another."
Not only because of the whole incipient lost-sister plotline, but also because GL felt that, given Luke's status as the hero, the audience otherwise probably wouldn't think Luke was really in danger during the climactic duel.
Boy, Kyle Katarn sure is a sloppy dresser -- he can't even be bothered to tuck his shirt in!
thxita said:
The fact is that the pause between "finest" and "families" is there because the Sultan was not happy with his chest of gold items and moved on to see the car, so disappointing Donovan who had expected a much different reaction (what was at stake there is that the Sultan could have not agreed to let them pass into his territory).
However it does leave space for doubt. Furthermore, his lips are unfortunately covered in that moment, due to the Sultan passing in front of him. So, who knows.About the Hindemburg...
In the comments to this article: http://www.thingsinmovies.com/the-hindenburg-in-indiana-jones-and-the-last-crusade/ one stated
I saw this when it first came out and remember expecting it to be the Hindenburg and then being surprised that it wasn’t. Though I bet it was supposed to be at one point in the creative process.
The ominous music when the Zeppelin is shown can be easily explained by the fact that people associate that type of transportation with disaster, regardless of the specific model of blimp.
EDIT: I've asked these question on an Indiana Jones forum and the ones that do have memories of those moments from 1989 did say that they clearly remember these elements not being there, no "jews" line, no "Hindenburg" name. If it can be of any further evidence, the Zeppelin model used for the film still exists and it has no more details than the ones we see in the film, no Hindenburg stencil.
I think the rumor of an alternate Last Crusade can be easily classified as a legend.
The Zeppelin model not having the Hindenburg name isn't decisive proof. Very likely such a close-up shot of the name would've been filmed with a larger partial model, to avoid having to zoom in way too closely on the much smaller full-length Zeppelin model used for optical mattes of the ship flying.
Another film to add to the list is Tod Browning's 1931 Dracula -- the original epilogue was cut during re-releases because it was seen to violate the Hays Code. The lone known surviving copy is in such poor quality that the scene is basically un-restorable.
The film in question is Flesh Gordon, a 1974 porn parody of the 30s Flash Gordon serials.
At one point, there's a spaceship crash which "Flesh" Gordon just barely walks away from. The special effects used in this scene are quite uncannily close to the the cutscene in Jedi Knight where Kyle Katarn crashes the Moldy Crow after escaping from Jerec's doomed cargo ship.
(Insert your own joke about the relationship between Star Wars and Flesh Gordon here.)
Flesh Gordon (1974)
Emperor Wang has a nice castle.
9/10 flying bronze phallic metaphors.
I've just learned that a major plot-critical cutscene in LucasArts' Jedi Knight (1997) was actually taken almost wholesale from a 1970s porn flick.
There are no words.
You must choose. But choose wisely, for as the true staff will bring you life, the false staff -- well, we've all seen that movie around here, haven't we?
Choose thou, and consider well, but not overlong.
In the film as it currently stands, there's a definite unnatural-sounding pause in Donovan's line, right where the word "Jewish" would've been: "...the finest [blank] families in all of Germany." So the scene almost certainly was shot with Julian Glover saying it as originally scripted.
Personally, I'm much more curious about the claim on IMDB that in the theatrical cut of LC, a close-up of the Zeppelin revealed it was actually the Hindenburg.
If that's true, it was evidently removed due to the obvious anachronism involved -- the film is set in 1938, but the real Hindenburg had been destroyed the previous year.
As with the "finest Jewish families" line, I'm inclined to believe this, largely because in the current cut, when Indy and Henry board the Zeppelin, there's a strikingly ominous music cue that has very little relation to what's happening on-screen.
Your translation is good, Ric Olie. I have approved it.
La f(l)amme est née libre, et partout elle est dans les fers.
DuracellEnergizer said:
That's why I sometimes wish Lucas had stuck with his original idea to make all lightsabers white (or red, if you're going by the original draft). It's no secret that I love lightsaber colour diversity, but I'd prefer one-colour uniformity over the cliched nonsense established in the PT.
I like your thinking. But to my mind, even worse is the missed opportunity of not giving all the Jedi blue lightsabers in the PT. That way, Luke's green saber in ROTJ would have been symbolic of his independence of mind - instead of just "oh, I had a blue saber before, I think I'll get a green one this time."
The Pirates! in an Adventure with Scientists (2012)
Finally got arround (har!) to seeing this (I usually don't use the American release title, given that I read the book years ago).
A surprisingly moving allegory, with many profound insights about the human condition.
Score: 59 of 9000 points
Leonardo said:
Darth Id said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
Meh. Aside from his stupid name...I have nothing against Cad Bane....
What else could you possibly need? "Cad Bane"? Are you serious? That can't really be a character name.
Do they have a "Jerk Awful" yet?
How about a "Meany Monsterman"?
For my money "Cad Bane" is a much better name by miles than "Savage Opress."
Seriously, that's like somebody paid a 5-year-old to come up with a new SW character, and he said "he's Darth Maul's twin brother, and his name is Savage Opress!"
Worst part: They couldn't even spell "oppress" right. ;P
A real freak of nature.
Like, wow, what an awesome tragedy. With Shakespearean act breaks and everything.
R2D2 beats up a bunch of stormtrooopers all by himself? Nah, that'd be silly. I doubt JJ would go for it.
Baronlando said:
Yeah, that "'80s materialism" thing has come up before, and there's plenty of movies where it's true, but I think it's been played up too much here. They live in the same house in the same neighborhood. The tennis rackets just means they play tennis together and are still active. Shit, the truck is a Toyota not a Porsche or something.
Yeah.
I mean, has Glover even seen the beginning of the film in the last 30 years? Marty's home and family at the start of the film appear to be just barely over the poverty line. It's hardly "80s materialism" to want to have a sound roof over your head and enough money to put food on the table.
Ah, then Finn won't be the only black guy in the galaxy this time. ;P
Hopefully now that John Boyega is the male lead of Ep7, Star Wars casting agents will at last get bold enough to let more than one person of color be visible on-screen per movie.
Personally, I'm still holding out for Asian actors to show up in the live-action GFFA. After all, GL did want to get Toshiro Mifune as Ben Kenobi..
Causality, schmausality. ;)
Who decided that the L in salmon shouldn't be pronounced?
Hmm.
So instead of having to defeat WOTAN, this time round the Doctor has to deal with Odin?
Also, John Boyega looks extremely cool in that stormtrooper uniform.