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#152440
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Idea: Revenge of the Sith: Extended Edition
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Yes, that would be good in a fan edit, but not in an extended edition. This thread is about effectively re-inserting the deleted scenes without "tinkering" with plot points and character nuances. You oughta get into making a custom edit. It's quite fun, and it's the best way to tailor the movie exactly the way you want it. Best of all, you'll get tons of support from everybody here, so long as you don't claim it's the best version ever. R.I.P. Spider.
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#152426
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Idea: Revenge of the Sith: Extended Edition
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The Extened Cut is being muxed tonight. This doesn't remove anything from the original film, but does clip the "redundant because they were used elsewhere in the Final Cut" bits from the Shaak Ti and Plot scenes. I had three cut points total in the Shaak Ti scene. C-3PO's opening lines in the Bail scene are cut too as they just distract from the dialogue, but that's the only "creative" edit I'm putting in to the Extended Cut. Otherwise, it's the "whole enchilada."

Cross posted from another thread. Forgive my redundancy.
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#152425
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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The Extened Cut is being muxed tonight. This doesn't remove anything from the original film, but does clip the "redundant because they were used elsewhere in the Final Cut" bits from the Shaak Ti and Plot scenes. C-3PO's opening lines in the Bail scene are cut too as they just distract from the dialogue, but that's the only "creative" edit I'm putting in to the Extended Cut.

Gonna cross this post in another thread. Forgive my redundancy.
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#152294
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Ghostbusters 3
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I heard years ago they planned on a movie about Ray and Egon training new recruits, including the late Chris Farley.


Interesting. I wonder if this is what led to Ethan Suplee's role in Evolution, given that he's a dead ringer for Farley (and IMHO a much more talented actor).
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#152152
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000

How did you edit them? Did you use Womble, or soemthing else? If I can't lower or alter them myself, can you send me some short MPG files of the parts you changed for me to plug in? *OR*, short MPG files with only the SUPER battle droid's voices REMOVED?


I've considered deletion as well as modulation. Haven't tried either yet, but if the mix is consistent with the other prequels, dialogue will be restricted to the center channel. Split the six streams with Hypercube Transcoder, use Vegas to manipulate the individual streams, then re-render as a new 5.1 audio file. That's my plan of attack.

The Neimoidian sounded like he was waiting to catch a wave. ;-)
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#152133
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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I've gotten the rough cut together. I'm noticing a major glitch in the title card every time I export. Anybody else have this problem? Hopefully this won't be an issue when the crawl is replaced with a new file, but we shall see. It's quite odd in any case. I haven't tried a full export yet to see if this kind of glitch shows up elsewhere in the film.

Many of you will be pleased to know that I am keeping Shaak Ti's death. The holo scene later only shows the back of her head from what I noticed and is REALLY obscure to watch. I'll live with it. There are greater imperfections we have to live with in this film than that one. The subsequent action has been pared down to remove the vast majority of incomplete animatics and to speed up the pacing. So far I think it works, but I'll be a better judge of things when I actually see this on a TV screen.

Here's a brief list of the major changes so far:
EP III deletions/modifications:
- New Crawl (Darth Editous is once again helping out on this one so many thanks still go to him).
- The line about "Vulture Droids"
- The line about "Buzz Droids"
- Neimoidian voice modulated (TBD)
- Battle Droids voices modulated (TBD)
- Palpatines's cheesy "Yes"
- Collapsing balcony "shoving" Obi-Wan. It would have broken his legs AND it was bad CG.
- Artoo crashing into wall
- Queen/Senator references throughout (not many fortunately).
- No friggin' midichlorians
- Anakin debating with Mace over killing/saving Palpatine.
- Palpatine's over the top moments while burning himself with force lightning
- Anakin asking "What have I done" right before pledging his soul to Palpatine
- Added bones cracking during the Padme force choke.
- "You underestimate my power."
- Padme losing the will to live.
- Silly medical droid lingo that detracts from the birth sequence.

Deleted stuff added back in
- Shaak Ti's death and escaping from Greivous (sans animatics and trimmed to remove redundancy with bridge scene)
- Mace, Yoda and Obi-Wan discussing the plot (trimmed to remove redundancy with war room scene)
- Rebel Alliance scenes
- Qui-Gon's return (voiceover in three places)
- Dagobah

Hal, to answer your question, here's where I placed the deleted scenes:
Shaak Ti scene just before Anakin & Obi-Wan enter the room where Palp is kept
Plot scene just before the Jedi Council scene where Anakin is begrudgingly accepted onto the council
Bail's Office scene just before the scene with Obi-Wan, Mace and Yoda in the "Huey Chopper"
Padme's apartment scene after Obi-Wan leaves for Utapau in the star destroyer, but before he briefs the clone troopers and departs in his own Jedi starfighter
Palpatine's office just before Obi-Wan riding the lizard for the first time
Dagobah just before Padme's funeral, right after "Have the protocol droid's mind wiped."
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#151894
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Your favorite Hollywood excuse for 2005's crappy box office returns
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The generation (dare I call us the Star Wars generation) that spent the most disposable income on movies a few years ago is getting older and having kids.

With surging ticket & concession prices, it's becoming less economically feasible to hire a sitter and go to the movies. Especially when the time away from home is being unnecessarily extended by 20 minutes of commercials (!!!) and previews before the movie begins. For those with kids old enough to go to the movies, the ticket & concession prices alone make it a bad deal economically when you can wait four months for the DVD.

Then we have to deal with the idiots in the row behind who are dragging kids too young to a movie (my greatest horror story was sitting next to the couple who brought a toddler to see Jackie Brown) or chatting on their cell phones, disrupting the film for everybody around.

DVD sales are going gangbusters because it lets the entire family watch repeatedly in the comfort of their own home, on their own schedule, in theater-quality sound without those annoying "other people" ruining the experience.

If the theaters wish to get serious about courting people, it all boils down to sacrificing the profit margin in favor of increasing the bottom line. The following suggestions will improve profits if theater owners would have the brains and balls to implement them:

1) Cut matinee prices in half and expect greater than a 100% increase in ticket buyers.
2) Enforce age minimums for non-children's films.
3) Kick out families with disruptive children and kick out anybody who takes a phone call during the film.
4) Make 2-for-1 "Date Deals" for non-peak evenings like Monday and Tuesday.
5) Offer free tickets for parents who bring 1 or more children to a children's movie.
6) Cut the price of concessions. $6.75 for a regular hot dog and a soda is ridiculous. $4.50 for popcorn is insane. Offer a better selection at a reasonable price.

If theater owners did this, would you be more likely to attend? Feel free to copy these suggestions verbatim and send them to your local theater. I'm gonna do that myself.
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#151859
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If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
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I think it said a lot about Spielberg's character when, at the last possible minute, he released the 1982 version of E.T. along with the 2002 edition. Granted, the E.T. SE was much more maligned than the SW SE (and for good reasons). But the plan all along was to release the 2002 edition affordably, and release the 1982 edition in a much more expensive set. As the packaging was being prepped, the negative press gave Spielberg and Universal the balls to say "Okay, everybody gets both versions."

Meanwhile, Lucas still gives us the middle finger by this obnoxious party line of "The O-OT doesn't exist." Bollocks! Star Wars was a trendsetter and should have been so for DVD as well, giving us all a choice of which changes to watch on a single disc. Any, all or none. Instead we got flipped off by one of the worst transfers in memory AND a press that sucked up to Lucas rather than calling him on the carpet for all the technical misdeeds of the official DVD.
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#151611
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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I've realized there is an important reason NOT to include the Shaak Ti scene in Ep III restorations: She's seen later on in the movie as still being alive. According to the SW Databank:

"When this sequence was cut from the edit of Episode III, Shaak Ti's life was spared. She can still be seen in Episode III, as a tiny tabletop hologram on Kashyyyk, when Yoda is remote-conferencing with the Jedi Temple.

"Although her earlier death at Grievous' hands was completed and included on the DVD as a deleted scene, it should not be considered the canon version of her fate. This is because she is still visible later on in the movie as part of the Kashyyyk hologram. The deleted scene on the DVD, "General Grievous Slaughters a Jedi," should instead be considered an interesting look at what might have been."
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#151465
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The Simpsons
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AAACCCCKKKKKK!!!! WTF? They re-ran LAST YEAR'S Treehouse of Horror the night before Halloween and are debuting this years in November? What is up with these programming dickwads at Fox? I thought they'd finally gotten the message, and with Baseball ending early (with the lowest series numbers in TV history to boot) I was under the impression we were getting Treats, not Tricks this Halloween.

I'm taking a private contract out on Fox with Manglers.
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#151459
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Star Trek is Gay
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Warbler, you gotta try the ending of 2001 set to Pink Floyd's Echoes. Mind blowing.

And for the record, I actually *don't* do drugs, though I'm sure if you do, it'll take it to a whole new level.

2001 is more than a film. It's a moving ("moving" as in "kinetic," not "tugging at the heart-strings") piece of brilliant, hi-concept art. The sequel is a great sci-fi flick and gripping story, but nothing more. The original is just something greater. Swan Lake on celluloid.