ADigitalMan

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Post: #79090
Topic: Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79090/action/topic#79090
Time: 23-Nov-2004 9:48 PM

Thanks guys. Some good things that I'll get to trying ASAP.

One other thing, do any of these programs edit M2V viles? I assume the correct process is to demux my discs to their individual streams, add the streams into an editing project, and then make my edits where necessary? I've found that nothing seems to edit M2V. Will virtualdubmod edit the VOB files or the M2V files? Or should I be converting demuxed M2V into another format before editing?

Post: #79021
Topic: Do you think George Lucas might release the original triloggy
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79021/action/topic#79021
Time: 23-Nov-2004 1:17 PM

I'm hopeful we'll see it before then, but I honestly think that we'll finally see the O-OT in digital format when Lucas' kids inherit his business.

Post: #79020
Topic: Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79020/action/topic#79020
Time: 23-Nov-2004 12:58 PM

That's been my argument all along in my correspondence with LFL. They claim "deliberate creative decision" so in that case, they're deliberately screwing over the foreign language viewers. Or, as we all KNOW, they screwed up the english language ANGLE/Track streams and aren't owning up to their mistakes.

I'm surprised that sites like DVDReview.com and TheDigitalBits.com haven't been holding Lucas accountable. Those sites incited a boycotting campaign on Back to the Future for far less offensive errors and they got the doggone thing replaced.

Getting back to the topic at hand, regarding the PAL xfers that were posted earlier, will they be problematic when trying to replace the NTSC video with those rips? I know my 5-star SE doesn't look close to the clarity of the DVD and these rips look much better, but if there is a problem with the frame rate not matching up, then what do we Americans need to do?

I myself want to create a watchable 2004 SE with the following changes:
- Correct the title card in ANH
- Han shoots first (and only)
- Correct Luke's green saber
I'm cool with the rest, including the new Jabba. His pulling of a punch on Han for stepping on his tail put the whole thing into a more believable perspective.

- Re-integrate Boba Fett's original voice in ESB (I'm holding out on editing the Emperor's dialogue until I see how it fits with Ep III)

- Restore Lapti Nek into Ep VI
- Restore Sebastian Shaw as the ghost

I thought about trying to edit some of the "Jedi Rocks" video into the "Lapti Nek" CD version for sh!ts and giggles. But I still haven't even gotten a working software solution to do frame-accurate editing, so I'm merely thinking aloud in this thread. I've gotten some good help from MBJ, but if any of you have additional advice on how to get frame-accurate editing on my system, please PM me. I tried the trial download of Premiere Pro, but it only installs on XP and I'm a Win2K dinosaur.

Post: #79019
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79019/action/topic#79019
Time: 23-Nov-2004 12:40 PM

I agree with you Tellan. It does cause serious issues with the video on DVD-5. I think we're saying the same thing ... DL just begs to have the PCM soundtrack, while SL begs to have DD2.0 for the sake of the best possible video quality.

Post: #79008
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79008/action/topic#79008
Time: 23-Nov-2004 11:22 AM

I'm a fan of the PCM soundtrack simply because it's a direct rip from the source. That said, MBJ's 5.1 is quite promising (the sample sounded GREAT) due to the hard work that has gone into it. But because PCM is available from the original source, I'm glad it's being preserved on all these different projects. It is, after all, the soundtrack that was purposefully designed to accompany the DE LD. Makes sense that it's being preserved. It is a space hog, and that's why we'll hopefully have it preserved on DL versions of the different sets.

WickedLemon, good minds do think alike.

Post: #78995
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78995/action/topic#78995
Time: 23-Nov-2004 10:26 AM

TR47, will a DL be made available in this set for those who want one? For those with DL burners, as I understand it, you could burn half the VOBs on one 4.7 and the other half on another, and then the user could reassemble on their own end. Given the cheap cost of 4.7s this may be a solution for those who can reassemble them on their own end. I'm not one of those people (yet) but I am thinking ahead.

Post: #79038
Topic: Is General Grievous really Maul??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79038/action/topic#79038
Time: 23-Nov-2004 8:49 AM

I think he should be Maul, but doubt he will be. Just one of many more lost opportunities by Lucas as a writer. Consider this as an easy "what could have been":

Qui-Gon's saber being blue, Obi-Wan's being green. When Obi-Wan's is lost during the Maul duel and he takes Qui-Gon's, he then wears it for the rest of his days as his own. This also would explain why Luke's own saber, which he built from parts in Obi-Wan's hut as an unfilmed (but written and included in comics and in the novel) scene in ROTJ, ended up being green, and not blue.

Post: #79035
Topic: RTJ Soundtrack Album
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79035/action/topic#79035
Time: 23-Nov-2004 8:33 AM

Damn, Neil. I was kidding myself, not to mention the forum, when I expected somebody to post the English translation. Now THAT's dedication to the song. If I still had the sheet music, I'd burn it in effigy. Sorry I missed this post a week ago, but it's now a helluva birthday present.

Post: #78889
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78889/action/topic#78889
Time: 22-Nov-2004 7:41 PM

Received this set over the weekend and have spot-viewed it for the first time. It has rendered my previous version (which looked like a crappy camcorder pointed at a TV) to being coasters. Literally. I now have an expensive set of three Star Wars coasters thanks to a simple even trade for TR-47.

Can't yet give a very critical review. The picture is fairly nice on my version. A curious wavy-pixellation thing during the darker sequences that is likely the result of the compression down to 4.7GB (I assume), but still, this is probably the cleanest transfer currently in existence. It's the first time I've really been able to sit and watch the OT since the SEs came out, and I'm re-discovering my love for certain things while appreciating some of George's changes at the same time. Mos Eisley is too doggone busy in the SE and I am now appreciating the original version in this entire sequence because of the sparseness. Smugglers could really hide out there, just like in some no-name Mexican town. The sparseness serves the story better. And in Jedi, I still love Lapti-Nek and roll my eyes at Yub Nub.

Post: #78885
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78885/action/topic#78885
Time: 22-Nov-2004 7:29 PM

Welcome to the boards, Consumer X, and thanks for being a newbie with a positive first post. You've been rare in coming these days.

Post: #78832
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78832/action/topic#78832
Time: 22-Nov-2004 4:07 PM

Whereas I wouldn't mind a "warts and all" offical release of the OT on DVD (considering that we've been given a "warts and all" release of the 2004 Special Edition) I really have to wonder about what some people are getting out of Star Wars when they complain about matte lines or bad saber shots NOT being present. I mean, do some people really sit around watching the trilogy and when vader's saber is seen to be white through the blast doors, scream out "Yayyyyyyy!!!!! THERE IT ISSSSSS!!!!! HOOOOOOOORAYYYYYYY" ?

Kinda missing the point there. Changing character arcs is bad. Even changing out old FX shots for entirely new ones is revisionist at best (though they don't personally offend me). Fixing simple rotoscoping errors is something totally different. Had Lucas released the O-OT with stuff like the mattes and sabers fixed but nothing else, there might *might* be a hundred people on earth who would get worked up over it. Most of them are on this forum.

Compared to the thousands upon thousands who care about the O-OT not being released in any form (cleaned up or grainy), there is clearly a threshold. Lucas is so far on one side of it, he can't see it. Same goes for certain others on the opposite side of the issue.

I haven't heard my earlier points addressed. What about that "Episode IV: A New Hope" being tacked on to the title crawl? That's not clearly causing certain forum member's panties to get in a twist. But it is a change from the original release of Star Wars. Everybody has their own threshold, and the vast majority seem to want a restoration of the version seen on the DE or Faces laserdiscs. If five frames of saber FX are corrected, what is the BFD? Don't like it? Follow the guides for captures being offered on this site (and others) and do your own f'ing captures. That's what's great about partcipants like MBJ and Zion and MVerta. They're doing this restoration out of a labor of love and are sharing most (if not all) of their secrets openly to provide a map for others to follow suit.

Remember, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Post: #78890
Topic: Vader shilling for Target (advert)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78890/action/topic#78890
Time: 22-Nov-2004 1:44 PM

Target is kinda like a slightly more upscale Wal-Mart.

Post: #78858
Topic: Vader shilling for Target (advert)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78858/action/topic#78858
Time: 22-Nov-2004 11:23 AM

Maybe they're just using the Darth Vader Voice Changer and it's actually Heidi Klum waking you up.

You know, I almost signed up for this, but then I realized, I really don't want Target having my home phone number.

Post: #78847
Topic: Tell it to the world!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78847/action/topic#78847
Time: 22-Nov-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by: TheSessler
It goes from small to xxl

Excellent. To fit Salacious Crumb AND Jabba.

Post: #78846
Topic: Vader shilling for Target (advert)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78846/action/topic#78846
Time: 22-Nov-2004 10:30 AM

My wife saw it this a.m. on Ellen (I think this is an NBC show). I got called in to see it. It's definitely a national ad.

Post: #78833
Topic: The Star Wars Issue and Why It's Totally Stupid
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78833/action/topic#78833
Time: 22-Nov-2004 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by: Bossk
Can you cook me up a Jedi Burger, too? Extra cheese?

That would be the "Jedi Rocks Burger."

Post: #78829
Topic: Vader shilling for Target (advert)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78829/action/topic#78829
Time: 22-Nov-2004 9:47 AM — Edited 1-Mar-2021 7:49 PM

Anybody seen the new Target ad with Vader and Heidi Klum?

Pretty f’ing funny, actually.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXWTmDbcOD0

Post: #78681
Topic: Your RotS Wish List
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78681/action/topic#78681
Time: 20-Nov-2004 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by: Count Dushku
"And Padme naked"....

Wrong movie, Jimbo.

Nononononono ... He'd be extolling the virtues of one Natalie Portman. He only wanted her undressed in his own mind. By getting her all nudified on screen for the world to see, Jimbo's world will collapse on top of him.

Post: #78631
Topic: ***The "SPIDER" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78631/action/topic#78631
Time: 19-Nov-2004 11:06 PM

Originally posted by: Spider
"ADigitalMan" get a life

"Spider" get a lawyer.

Post: #78640
Topic: Important news for vegans and women!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78640/action/topic#78640
Time: 19-Nov-2004 6:08 PM

Man, I love a good Thickburger, but after seeing "Super Size Me" last week (and all the excellent bonus features), well, it's gonna be a long time before I eat fast food burgers again. That movie is like "The Jungle" for this century. Now Hardees' food, as horrible as it is for you, still must be a zillion times better for you than McD's. And that thickburger beats the Big Mac hands down tastewise. Plus, knowing that the chain is HQ'ed in North Carolina is just the icing on the cake. The state that invented deep-fried seafood. Mmmmm mmmmm.

Post: #78637
Topic: Director's Cuts?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78637/action/topic#78637
Time: 19-Nov-2004 5:36 PM

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
So his legs and arms are not his?

OK and explain the voice, why dosen't Vader sound anything like Hayden and Shawn, why does he sound like JEJ while on suit? There was no NEED for a voice altering device on the suit...

I think Vader needed a voice processor because speaking through all of that apparatus would have muffled his voice, just like it did to the actor David Prowse on the sets. When you're the commander of the imperial starfleet, it's pretty important that your orders be heard and understood by your underlings. Sounding badass is ancillary.

Plus, Shaw's Anakin didn't have all that strong a voice. Of course, he WAS dying. But when you hear JEJ's processed voice saying to take the mask off, then follow that wish Shaw's Anakin's weak voice, it backs up the case for the need for clarity through the helmet and breathscreen.

Post: #78574
Topic: ***The "SPIDER" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78574/action/topic#78574
Time: 19-Nov-2004 2:53 PM

Originally posted by: Spider
I will do it my way on how it gets in the mail. Some people have no idea how much it cost to get into video editting and think that they should not have to pay any thing. No one has to get my set. I do not care if you download it. I'm not made of money. If I get little extra it goes back into video editting.

Now, you can ignore my mailing suggestions and keep jacking up your costs unnecessarily, but don't complain about the expense of the materials, postage or your time. I think we all know how expensive it is, and I don't think anybody here is made of money. You're not alone. I think most of us would agree that it is reasonable to expect to recover direct costs (blank discs and shipping costs).

However, to expect to recover the cost of your components or time on a project for whose intellectual property you don't own is overstepping your boundaries and expectations. LD rips and fan reedits ... these are hobbies, not careers. Reset your expectations and you'll be a lot happier in the end with the response your product gets. Keep trying to profit off of this and the long arm of the law will come and put a smackdown on you ... not to mention you'll piss of the majority of this board. Plus, breaking the forum rules by selling material vs. trading or giving away material is also a quick way to have this conduit rent from you altogether.

Post: #78570
Topic: Hypocrisy of us at OT fans wanting preservations - but also editing the PT
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78570/action/topic#78570
Time: 19-Nov-2004 8:38 AM

Not there yet, but thanks for the tip. I wasn't checking before now.

Post: #78569
Topic: Your RotS Wish List
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78569/action/topic#78569
Time: 19-Nov-2004 8:35 AM

And Padme naked.

Post: #78508
Topic: ***The "SPIDER" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/78508/action/topic#78508
Time: 19-Nov-2004 12:54 AM

Originally posted by: Spider
The reason I charge is simple I have to rip the DVDa then burn them then stand in line at the post office.

Like any trader does without charging? Try the altruisic approach and actually give your stuff away. I've done this in many cases, not even asking for the cost of postage or discs. IT'S NOT YOUR MOVIE!!!

Here's a cost-saving tip. Wrap all 3 discs in a plain 8.5 x 14 sheet of paper like a Christmas present, and put three stamps on it. Stick it in your outgoing mailbox instead of driving to the post office and waiting in line. That will cover the postage, and the odds of something happening to the discs are quite slim. If so, the amount you will have saved overall when you've shipped several of these will more than cover the cost of shipping out a replacement set for that instance where something gets damaged. Case in point: If Netflix can mail millions of discs a day in plain paper envelopes and lose virtually none of their stock, it's a testament to the resiliency of DVDs and shows there is a more cost-effective way to ship discs in the mail.