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#107412
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Anakin's Father...
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Thing is, I think the entire point could have been driven home without the notion of midichlorians in both I and III. Shmi talks about the immaculate conception and not knowing what happened. Then Palpatine tells about manipulating the force to create life. Little force-sensing MITOCHONDRIA need not be present for the plot point to work just fine. Having the ability to sense the Force reliant on a microscopic life form totally destroys the mythic and religious aspects of the Force. It's like trying to say there is a specific part of our brain that allows us to know God (or not). Faith is removed completely by these midichlorians and it ultimately serves no purpose whatsoever, while actually disservicing the heart and soul of the entire saga. Might as well rename "the Force theme" as "the March of the Midichlorians."
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#107394
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Compilation Thread- EP3 thing that were...
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Could there have been any more hand (and other parts) chopping? It was like France in the 1700s during this movie.

The obvious throwback to the OT was the Tantive IV and Captain Antilles. My personal fave was Tarkin. I had no IDEA that a single shot of an actor with no lines or closeups could convince you about who he was and what he was doing just by his look and his posture. The guy should get an Oscar for Best Walk-On.

Other throwbacks in no particular order:
"S-foils" line in the opening battle
Yoda clutching his heart, sensing a great disturbance in the Force
The mere use of escape pods
And the throwback that should have been: A Jedi ghost
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#107370
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How do you rate EpIII?
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I

I really did dig the new movie, but it still doesn't resonate quite the same way the OT does. That may very well be because the OT is my childhood and I've viewed and digested it hundreds of times, but the new movie is only 72 hours old. I can honestly say III is the best of the prequels, and it will only improve in extended form.
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#107365
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2 versions of EP3? this is out of control
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Originally posted by: Anakin's Mannequin
Hey Digital, what'd you think of Sith?


Dropping my comments in and out as I return to the boards. I was actually on vacation all week, and saw Ep III (twice) while on the road in DLP.

Short review:
Great movie. Needs some re-editing, but not much. (I address my plans in the re-edit thread)
As usual, Lucas took out the wrong scenes when cutting it down. Just like Anakin beating up Greedo, or Padme's parents or Obi-Wan and Mace in the hangar, there are some scenes that just should not have been cut.
My only real beef with the movie is consistency with ROTJ. Leia does remember her mother, and I just don't buy her remembering her from the womb, no matter how strong Leia is with the Force. Lucas may think this line is not incongruous with the OT, but it is, no matter how you slice it or dice it. Padme should have lived on at the end of the film, knowing her condition was terminal. She should have gone with Bail to Alderaan and died there some time later. I LIKE the whole Padme dying thing and how it played out (except for the actual "reason" she was dying), I just find it grossly incongruous with the OT. And I'm NOT going to remove that line from ROTJ in a re-edit 2.0.
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#106990
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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Ditto here. My thought is that this is a "workprint" thread for methods and ideas mainly geared to what the subject suggests. Once something definitive is out there, an official thread should be launched for each release to discuss it. Rik released my ROTJ and will hopefully be releasing ESB soon. ANH still isn't ready and does deserve the best treatment of all. Hopefully you'll all be happy. There's a good possibility DE's version may become my fave, but I'm having fun doing what I'm doing with his help.
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#107004
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2 versions of EP3? this is out of control
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The real selling point to DLP is the clean picture. This was my first DLP movie and the picture was superior to any film experience I've had. Detractors may say what they will, but no scratches, no pops, no cigarette burns ... beautiful picture that frankly runs rings around celluloid. The only thing I miss is film grain. There is a characteristic to film grain.

This is the reason above all to see DLP ... it's like watching a DVD on hi-def TV, but one that's 2 stories tall. Now, if they only had DLP IMAX ... what an experience that would be.

I think we get different "versions" because Lucas is an incessant tinkerer. Since he could tweak Ep II further before the DLP release, he did. Some of the changes were good (Padme's "getting up" scene was more believable) and some were bad (I'm a Jedi, I know I'm better than this).

If there are different versions of Ep III, then it's highly likely that the DLP version is what will go to DVD.
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#105322
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Revenge of the Sith Soundtrack
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I have my official copy but want to re-order the tracklisting to match the cues chronologically. Given that I've tried to stay away from spoilers, can any of you suggest what the chronological track order might be?

Updated:
I found the answer to the thread at jwfan.net.

Requires inserting Duel of the Fates, interestingly enough. Also involves splitting one of the tracks in two. I'm working on both.
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#104519
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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Womble also has a demux utility built into the tools section. I personally use the DVD-Lab Pro tool as it's much easier to drag the first VOB in the sequence and have everything split into its respective streams. Though I would recommend stripping the decoded disc to a movie only file first using something like DVD-Fab. It's an extra step, but I think it gets all of the menus, extra language tracks (if you don't plan to use them for anything) and junk out of your way.
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#104105
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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Hal, if I can do it, you can do it. I knew squat about squat when I showed up here in September.

You need Womble and DVD-Lab Pro at a minimum. Make www.videohelp.com your other favorite site (I've been there for years but never got serious about editing before the SW DVDs came out and disappointed me). The soundtrack will stay in 5.1 on the condition that all sources are in 5.1 and that you don't manipulate it beyond straight cuts. I've found that you can cut the audio in a different place from the video and often "hide" your cuts that way. Great for those moments where you lose a soft wipe. Cue the transition music a bit before the video cut and you've actually got a pretty nice transition.

DE, I guess I do know what your forthcoming change is. Not what I was thinking though. I imagined a real and total heresy like creating a visual of Obi-Wan's spirit leaving his body as he was cut down. Which, heretical though it might be, would be a darn fun project for somebody (not me) to take on.

I look forward to this whole thing when you're done with it.
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#103730
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Trooperman, we've gotta exchange notes. I completed my Ep II re-edit while this whole thread has been going on. yet I managed to miss it entirely. I'm not kidding when I say I almost called it "Shroud of the Dark Side" but ended up calling it "Path to the Dark Side" instead because of space constraints. No idea you had similar thoughts going on.

I've read through some of this thread and I've done some of these edits, but of course, not all, and some others instead.

I really want to see your version now.

I'll start a thread for all my re-edits when they're ready in the next couple of weeks or whenever. ROTJ has been out there for some time. Ep II is done, but not released (sitting here mocking me). Ep I and IV are awaiting crawls and then they're done (Ep IV is just a fix to the title card, fear not).
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#103718
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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I'm trying YouSendIt for the first time, based on the conversation above. Try this link for Darth Editous' fixed saber m2v file from ANH . Hopefully it'll work. It's in NTSC format and is ready to snap in. DE did a bang up job on this, as well as new crawls for my prequel re-edits, which I'll discuss in another thread when I'm ready to launch.

Here's what you need to do in Womble to get these snippets to work:
1) Demux to elementary streams, so you're working solely with the m2v or mpv stream.
2) Using Womble MPEG Video Editor, under tools/Mpeg Video GOP fixer run the "fix GOP timecode and PTS errors. I've found this necessary on all the Star Wars DVDs. Otherwise, the stream just stops around 1:23. I don't know why, and it was dumb luck or genius intuition that led me to fixing the streams with this tool on first try. Anyway, save the stream to a new file.
3) Womble will allow you to do a frame accurate cuts. Remove the entire shot and replace with the file above. Luke's saber is now blue, like it is supposed to be.
4) If Lucas trys to trump up some plot point to justify this as a Deliberate Creative Decision in Ep III, grab your torches and pitchforks.

Anyway, this is the first usable file I've posted in a while, after my ROTJ fixes in the early days of this thread. It's all Darth Editous' genious though. I just was given the benefit of it.

S7en, I got your file, by the way, but can't get it to play yet. I'll keep working on it.