ABC

Ric Olie said:

 

xhonzi said:

Perhaps your vertical force needs more... oh heck, I have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't either.  I just go with the flow.  Vertical, horizontal, or whatever.

Obviously. That thread goes all directions. It tries to land somewhere from time to time, but it is like Ric's ship.

Oh that ? I was just searching for boobs through Google which led me to these government files. Indeed, my vertical Force sometimes needs to admire his horizontal complement... Imagine my deception to read about that robot then !

Mmmhh. I always thought the Naboob-(watch yourself C3PX)-ian buildings were a little flat.

... Well observed. You made your first step in a larger world.

There are as much directions as before but you can now go further. Vertical Force might bring you higher in the Ric Olie observatory tower.

Ric Olie said:

You and I share excellent observational skill, but yours is completely opposite of mine.

Ferris209 said:

Looks like ABC is hijacking Ric Olie's observation thread.

See? This directionnal matter is the heart of this thread. So there's no hijicking, unless you mean from exterior to interior. We can't be closer to the original subject here.

And even if, what do you read Ferris:

• The Ric Olie's Observation Thread
• The Ric Olie Observations Thread
• The Ric Olie Observation Thread

?

C3PX said:

I'll probably wake up tomorrow and your post will make perfect sense.

There's one form of communication over the 6 million ones you're able to speak wich you may have not learned.

At any rate, I was just making really immature joke with the whole penetration comment, don't take it seriously.

Oh don't worry, you're not on my ignore list. You just have been classified "funny" in my log-book.

The word "penetrated" is justly used because it demands full consentment from the subject.

C3PX said:

He he, ...

Obviously robots can't figure out what's this about... And don't tell me this one has sense of humor. That's only a program!

Your PM box is exploding Chainsaw, can't reply to you anymore...

Vertical includes horizontal, while horizontal ignores vertical before it recognize it. That's a Genesis matter... Just watch nature.

When human has enough with turning around and finally decides to stop, only then his mind is able to transcend horizontal (the animal) to become vertical (Human).

That's why the entire planet looks like one big zoo for now, my friend !

"Blabla" removed.

Surely not, but he just has to rise his hand to land a ship (I saw him).

He's penetrated, surrounded and combined with vertical Force.

msycamore said:

I know I'm a little late with the suggestions but I noticed you were going to post an improved set so...  Thanks in advance:)

"Late"? I hope you'll read that, man: THANK YOU !

I mean it. Thank you fro speaking and sharing your knowledge about this score. And the consequences of this "innocent" suggestion are many:

• You made me discover this alternate version I didn't notice (the edit is done and I expended it with the "Yoda and The Force" bit as is the film version).
• I finally want to have it in the set, so I thought why not make this "film versions suite" and I tried some new remixings on the other two film version tracks I hesitated to place since the beginnig... Ans now I want to have them too.
• But mostly, this new "Alt-Finale" edit made me noticed I hadn't dealed with some necessary stereo corrections on some RSO tracks. Such a correction is very important as it allows surprisingly more accurate EQ's, and the sound gets even more clean, EQ's or not. "The Asteroid Field", "Vader's March" and "Yoda's Theme" are now... How can I say? Achieved?

Then I'm now at a point where the true sound recovered here and there allows me to see something I'm about to watch closer on the entire score. Nothing I can explain in detail here so I won't speak further (and I know DJ will thank me for that)... I suggest you keep preciously for now the current version "2" as an "archival step", and watch for the 2010 version:

disc 1

 
1. MAIN TITLE/ICE PLANET 8:15
2. THE WAMPA'S LAIR 3:36
3.VISION OF OBI-WAN 3:37
4. SNOWSPEEDERS 1:48
5. ABOARD THE EXECUTOR 3:12
6. DRAWING THE BATTLE LINES 4:07
7. BATTLE IN THE SNOW 3:49
8. LUKE'S FIRST CRASH 4:16
9. THE REBELS ESCAPE 3:03
10. THE ASTEROID FIELD 4:15
11. CRASH LANDING ON DAGOBAH 3:38
12. A FAMILIAR PLACE 1:22
13. LUKE'S NOCTURNAL VISITOR 2:34
14. HAN SOLO AND THE PRINCESS/VADER AND THE EMPEROR 3:31
15. JEDI MASTER REVEALED/MYNOCK CAVE 4:46
16. THE MAGIC TREE 3:36
17. ATTACK POSITION 3:08
18. YODA AND THE FORCE 4:08
19. IMPERIAL STARFLEET DEPLOYED 1:17
20. THE CITY IN THE CLOUDS 4:47

disc 2

1. LANDO'S PALACE/LUKE'S PROMISE 3:51
2. LEIA'S WORRIES 1:00
3. LANDO AND HAN 0:39
4. BETRAYAL AT BESPIN 1:02
5. CAPTIVES 0:59
6. DEAL WITH THE DARK LORD 2:34
7. CARBON FREEZE 2:40
8. DARTH VADER'S TRAP/DEPARTURE OF BOBA FETT 8:27
9. THE DUEL 4:06
10. THE REVELATION/ESCAPE FROM BESPIN 5:20
11. HYPERSPACE 4:00
12. THE REBEL FLEET/END TITLES 6:25
THE "EMPIRE STRIKES BACK" MUSIC SUITE
13. THE IMPERIAL MARCH (DARTH VADER'S THEME) 3:00
14. YODA'S THEME 3:27
15. THE ASTEROID FIELD* 4:12
16. HAN AND LEIA'S THEME* 4:25
17. THE MAGIC TREE* 3:38
ARCHIVAL BONUS TRACKS:
18. MAIN TITLE/PROBE DROID OVERTURE (FILM VERSION) 4:06
19. SNOWSPEEDERS (FILM VERSION) 1:02
20. TRAPPED IN CARBONITE (UNUSED) 0:41
21. DEPARTURE OF BOBA FETT (FILM VERSION) 1:51
22. THE TRAINING OF A JEDI NIGHT (UNUSED) 1:38
23. THE REBEL FLEET/END TITLES (Film version-Alt March) 6:52

RUNNING TIME: DISC 1 72:52 - DISC 2 about 75min

We're now part of the Death Star... Bad omen ! :)

That looks cool. I like the border for each post, it makes it easier to flip.

... However the type size is a bit small,

 don’t you think ? 

Oldfan said:

... I am just amazed at the clarity and depth. I can't imagine needing any more done to it.

 

 Imagine that thanks to our friend Msycamore and his suggestion to edit the film version alternate of the "Finale" I just noticed while doing it I didn't have the idea to correct the stereo balance before (must be said that the RSO sounds so good that I didn't pay attention). It was already clear, and now it looks even more clean.

The 35mm film version of Rebel Fleet is combined with a great sounding "70mm End Title" on the Anthology, If you could manage to recreate the complete version with "The Rebel Fleet" from the RSO with the "End Title" from Anthology it would make me really happy;)

Wow ! You're right ! I though it was just the same with a lack of "punch"... Indeed it is played in one stroke (edit: ... no it'snt, some cuts there). To notice that the current version has the Imperial March edited, true, but it begins with an alternate expended bit.

If I'm going to do this, I want a track by track review of all the improvements through feedback from you... Come back, it's a joke ! :)

Ok, you'll have this version. Now I'm wondering where it is going because I don't think I'll replace the first one for now, and having the end titles two times on the CD may be a little too heavy... Or if I'm going to put it in a special file for you with an alternate backcover (if needed). What do you think? (everyone is invited of course).

... Also, what about if I make this track a complete film version (the "Yoda and the Force" bit makes it really beautiful)...?... I'm going faster than light these days. Don't be too late for a good idea ! ;)

Something else ? :)

hairy_hen said:

I never really knew anything was wrong with the SE versions ...

Be assured I never knew it neither... Until I decide to find out why I never had the will to run those CD's in my Hi-Fi (besides they have a forbidden access to it).  :)

...

@ Msycamore: Things are going to be as stated on my last post. Thanks for the note ;)

@ DJ: you haven't heard the Imperial March yet ! I took it back from the beginning and now really sounds like the RSO, and better.

msycamore said:

ABC, when I told you that the "Carbon Freeze" cue's placement on the SE CD is correct, it's both right and wrong.

 Ah. Sorry to hear that. Indeed it's still bugging me to have it in the middle (mostly on the beginning of Darth Vader's Trap).

If it had to be shown as an alternate however, I'd have put it at the place I felt since the beginning: before the Duel. It fitted so well. :) ... Because look how is constructed the set. It would have been lost as an alternate in the unused cues, and it has really not the "calibre" to be the final track on this masterpiece score.

I don't know if I'm going to do anything about that in the end.

Edit: however, the only interest of this alt. bit could be to temper the fast action film versions edits I can still add on this set as suggested before, what may give:

• 17. Main Titles/Probe Droid Overture (Alt & Film edit)
• 18. SnowsPeeders (Film edit)
• 19. Trapped In Carbonite (Unused)
• 20. Departure of Boba Fett (Film Edit)
• 21. Training of a Jedi Knight (Unused)

... You wouldn't have a more complete score then, minus the Mynock cave alternate mini segment, wich unfortunately wouldn't find its place here. I'll watch for any suggestions.

Ooop !... Hem... Removed.

ABC should all other downloaded versions be deleted in favor of this new one then?I don't want to get them all mixed when sharing.

I'm trying all my best to have it perfect as possible for this final upload. If this edit has to travel through the internet it has to be the best one. And when I say the best, be sure I'm not talking about my own tastes, or if it was so this edit would be already finished. I' m doing things here in a way to have them (my own tastes) not interfering with this work (... I hope !...).

Did I answer?

PS: and sorry for this new unexpected and third version. I won't upload before I'm sure it's over this time ;)

With time and the now cumulated experience about this score, some tracks obviously gives clues on what the sound should be on some other, according to the possibilities offered by the EQ's potential of course... what could be translated by "same possibilities" = same recording sessions, wich may not be totally correct however, due to the different original mixings + the different sources (depht, dynamic etc...). That, to say I recently tried my best to render the "battle suite" on CD1 (tracks 6 to 10) in the most accurate way, only with minor changes here again.

Then, for the ones who know the current so called "final" version, those last improvements concern:

CD1

• Luke's First Crash
• The Asteroid field
• Attack Position

CD2

• The Reveletion/Escape From Bespin
• Separated Carbon Freeze & Darth Vader's Trap
• Hyperspace
• The Imperial March
• + Again some volume adjustments

... More news later

NEWS

Ah, thanks. I'll have to read the article ten more times before I begin understand it well. Anyway, that's great news!

you should master is as loud as it can be without any clipping or unnecessary compression

An unavoidable clipping occured, mostly on the RSO tracks, but I checked and are only located on rare crests, and the bits which has been clipped are quite ridiculous. Only on the saturated part remaining of the begining of the End Title it is a little more important.

Sure that I wouldn't make it louder than it is now.

Then, doctor...?

Edit: the RotJ is louder indeed, but that was allowed by the recovered clarity of the highs and basses wich are quite powerfull on it, to notice... (Highs are even too clear to say the truth, as they're not so clean).

Too loud now ?

After a brief talk with DJ, I indeed noticed while playing with the volume on my hi-fi that, due to the strengh that have been given now to the recordings, that it lacked some flexibility. I think it is always more comfortable to have somewhat a reserve of power unused, which I use to call the breath... And obviously here, this whole reserve is exploited.

But I think you may not have such a problem on a computer. Then I'm asking to hard audiophiles, hoping you are all.

I don't have anymore time to fix that now, but we'll see... Let's go for critiscism and please try to destroy the high consideration I have for this edit !... It's the only way for it gets better with time.  

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@OB1,

I have to rename manually the tracks when uploaded on the actual computer. Indeed, the other one with his old version of Nero doesn't keep the names (but the great advantage is that I can still burn my CD's at ultra low speed: 1x150Ko/s... Lol).

The double dot for "asteroïd" is usual in french. Though I don't use to speak about asteroïds so much.

Glad to see there's no problem with the links for now.