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DEFINITIVE JOKE FAIL

... Though the monologue may turn awesome.

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Incredible !

I suscribed to this forum once to share my work here, with people - as I already said - who has already paid, and don't want to pay more for having those scores in a descent shape.

But if there's one thing I haven't subscribed for, it is to feed those supermarket places ! I yet don't like it when they're free, but what to think when they're not !

I see the source of the download is from the SW alt bin. and I don't think this one sells anything. I just don't understand why one should pay this other site for sucking from the Alt bin group then. Besides, I also saw the "Audiophile Edition" is available through this... thing.

... My jaw falls.

Anyway, that gives me reason on something: if you don't want to "share", you're gonna pay.

Thanks for the explanations.

PS: Any thoughts from anyone about that is welcome.

- Edited Post -

SET 3: The RSO album reconstructed & completed (fixed). (78:10)

 

1. Main Title / Ice Planet / The Wampa's Lair
2. Snowspeeders
3. The Imperial March 
4. The Battle In The Snow
5. Luke First Crash 
6. The Rebel Escape  (alternate mix)
7. The Asteroid Field 
8. Nocturnal Visitor

9. Yoda's Theme
10. Han And The Princess / Vader And The Emperor
11. Jedi Master Revealed / Mynock Cave
12. Training A Jedi / The Magic Tree 
13. Yoda And The Force
14. The City In The Clouds 
15. Lando's Palace/Luke's Promise 
16. Departure Of Boba Fett 
17. The Duel
18. Hyperspace 
19. The Rebel Fleet/End Title (Album Version)

SET 2 - The Restored Original Score & Suites As Written For The Film (for no confusion: is not the IE DVD music track - tracks here are uncut excepted one... See the SE ? You've got the idea then)

DISC 1

1. Main Title / Ice Planet:

   1M1 Main Title
   1M2 The Imperial Probe

2. Heroics Of Luke And Han:

   1M3/2M1 Luke's Escape
   2M2 Ben's Instructions
   2M3 Luke's Rescue

3. Aboard The Executor:

   2M4 The Probe Scanner

4. The Battle Of Hoth:

   3M1 Drawing The Battle Lines
   3M2 Leia's Instructions
   3M3 The Snow Battle
   3M4/4M1 Luke's First Crash
   4M2 The Rebels Escape Again

5. The Asteroid Field:

   4M3 The Asteroid Field

6. Swamps Of Dagobah:

   5M1 Crash Landing

7. Luke's Nocturnal Visitor:

   5M2 Yoda Appears
   5M3 Yoda's Entrance
  
8. Han And The Princess / Vader And The Emperor:

   5M4/6M1 Solo And The Princess

9. Jedi Master Revealed / Mynock Cave:

   6M2 Yoda's Teaching
   6M3 This Is Not A Cave

10. The Dark Side Of The Force:

   6M4 Training A Jedi
   6M5/7M1 The Magic Tree

11. Attack Position:

   7M2 Attack Position

12. Yoda And The Force:

   7M3 Yoda Raises The Ship



DISC 2:

01. Darth Vader's Command:

   7M4/8M1 Vadar's Command

02. The City In The Clouds:
  
   8M2 City In The Clouds

03. Lando's Palace / Luke's Promise:

   8M3 Lando's Palace

04. Leia's Worries:

   9M1 Luke To The Rescue

05. Betrayal At Bespin:

   9M2 Vader Shows Up

06. Captives:

   9M3 Putting ThreePio Together

07. Deal With Darth Vader:

   9M4 Trouble In Prison

08. Darth Vader's Trap:
  
   9M6/10M1 Carbon Freeze
   10M2 Luke Pursues The Captives
   10M3 Chewie Chokes Lando

09. The Duel:

   11M1 Through The Window

10. Revelation / Escape From Bespin:

   12M1 Losing A Hand
   12M2 To Hyper-Space

11. The Rebel Fleet / End Titles:

   12M3 Finale
   12M4 End Credits

12. The Imperial March

13. Yoda's Theme

SET 1: The Complete Cue List Archive Collection

 

Disc 1

01. 1M1-1M2 Main Title - The Imperial Probe (original)
02. 1M3/2M1 Luke's Escape
03. 2M2 Ben's Instructions
04. 2M3 Luke's Rescue
05. 2M4 The Probe Scanner
06. 3M1 Drawing The Battle Lines
      3M2 Leia's Instructions
07. 3M3 The Snow Battle
08. 3M4/4M1 Luke's First Crash
09. 4M2 The Rebels Escape Again
10. 4M3 The Asteroid Field
11. 5M1 Crash Landing
12. 5M2 Yoda Appears
13. 5M3 Yoda's Entrance
14. 5M4/6M1 Solo And The Princess
15. 6M2 Yoda's Teaching
16. 6M3 This Is Not A Cave
17. 6M4 Training A Jedi
18. 6M5/7M1 The Magic Tree
19. 7M2 Attack Position
20. 7M3 Yoda Raises The Ship
21. 7M4/8M1 Vader's Command


Disc 2

01. 8M2 City In The Clouds
02. 8M3 Lando's Palace
03. 9M1 Luke To The Rescue
04. 9M2 Vader Shows Up
05. 9M3 Putting ThreePio Together
06. 9M4 Trouble In Prison
07. 9M6/10M1 Carbon Freeze (original)
08. 10M2 Luke Pursues The Captives
09. 10M3 Chewie Chokes Lando
10. 11M1 Through The Window
11. 12M1 Losing A Hand
12. 12M2 To Hyper-Space
13. 12M3 Finale
    12M4 End Credits

CONCERT VERSIONS:
 
14. Darth Vader's Theme
15. Yoda's Theme

BONUS MATERIAL:

16. Fox Fanfare (Empire sessions recording)
17. 1M1-1M2 Main Title / The Imperial Probe (Alt inserts)
18. 12M2+2M3 Snowspeeder (film edit)
19. 4M3 The Asteroid Field (film cut)
20. 9M6/10M1 Carbon Freeze (Alt insert version)
21. 7M3+12M3 Finale (film edit)
      12M4 End Credits (Alt March Insert film version)

- Check here the previous remixing/editing details (version 1)-

...What's new since:

• EQ's: mostly 1993 sessions mixes tracks, using a 20Khz parametric equalizer to manage the 20Khz tone that is particular to these. Overall, the CD3 from the AE has been the main reference for new EQs. A lot of tracks from it then replace the previous CD1 & 2 ones.
• Pitch corrections: 5M4/6M1; 6M3; 7M3; 9M4 + 1M2 Alt this one checked against the 1980 film mix)
• Balance adjustment on a few tracks
• New source occasionnaly used for enhancement: the NPR Radio Drama for 6M3; 10M1
• Redone tracks: 6M2 (uses the film mix instead of the SE remix); 9M4, 1M2 Alt.
• Editing: checked and corrected when needed against J Williams piano sketches manuscript (scoring sheets).
• Other improvements: notably 8M2, bringing back the background details (xylophone(?) harmonics) from the sessions mix during Luke's vision passage.

+ A few other details.

This project is an updgrade on many points of the previous “Audiophile Edition”. It is my definitive set & fix.

<span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>© Copyrighted material:</span> You must own the Empire Strikes Back original motion picture soundtrack Special Edition if you mean to keep for yourselves a copy of the entire project presented here. If you own any other releases of this score, then you may select and keep for yourselves the material in common from the actual set.

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK restored score

• Composer / Conductor: John Williams
• Performer: the London Symphony Orchestra
• Project: multiple sources remixing, restoration and remastering.
• Sources: 1980-1985 RSO/PolyGram (LPs & CD), 1993 Arista Anthology, 1997 RCA Special Edition, 1983 NPR Radio Drama.
• Set:2CD (complete cues archive) + 2CD (edited score) + 1 CD (original album reconstructed and completed) + art covers, special booklet with liner notes and documentation, inside arts.
• Format: Lossless Flac audio

Related projects:

Dark_Jedi & ABC’s IMPERIAL EDITION DVD - The restored score against the picture (B&W GOUT sourced restoration), featuring the completed original score as written for the 1980 final cut.

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK AUDIOPHILE EDITION (version 1) - Check for a more complete presentation.

Blue is colder than red.

Any opinion on this will be pointless.

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scoremaster said:

... when to stop equalizing (?) ...

Oh, and for the record: After hours of carefuly done alt mixings to listen for selection (not mentionning the earlier versions), this is where stopped the equalization.

Only a few tracks, notably half of the RSO CD were found in less than ten minutes, though I may have done further tries that were finally useless.

The IE DVD provides the definitive fixing though, as I explained before.

PS: yeah, mp3s... weird idea.

PPS: There were a couple of very easy fixes I made for the IE. For exemple and ss "Hyperspace" is one of your favorite tracks, you may want to have it sound at its best... Just lift the left channel of 0,5db on CD3 version (CD2 rather need to manage this on lowering the right), and you'll know what I mean. ;)

And more: http://www.stealthboy.com/starwars_dvds.php

You just had me curious and just tiped "VHS Trilogy" in the search field.

I think that's what you search...

Currently I only downloaded the 3rd disc to get an overview of the work done. The files I put on my Cowon S9, and plugged in my Sennheiser Headphones.

Cowon S9 ? Does it mean you listened to this as mp3's ?... Just curious.

Most of the cuts are invisible, only one cut (at the end of Jedi Master, Mynock Cave) was a bit abrupt.

Yes, the "clack", I see. As far as I remember the SE has the same. I fixed it in the same time than correcting the pitch on the RSO parts. You can hear the complete version in the "Imperial Edition", or grab the Mynock sequence as a sample in the IE thread.

For comparison I used the Anthology versions and especially compared my favourite tracks "Hyperspace" and "Lukes first Crash". Both of them got a much clearer instrument seperation. Also some noticable volume changes were done, especially in "Lukes first Crash".

... Hard to compare LPs versions with the Anthology. Only 40 sec on the 1st minute of Luke's First Crash is a pure Anthology part.

It would be very interesting to get to know what was the ideal ABC had in mind, to know how ABC decided what kind of sound is to be achieved and when to stop equalizing ... Any inputs on this, dear ABC?

I presented 4 versions before on these boards. They were in good shape but they weren't called "Audiophile Edition" but "Optimum". Only it occured when I decided the "Optimum" finished, that I just had a declic about how it should really sound depending on the source recordings. Also I understood what was to be taken into consideration (see post 1). If you want to name my ideal for this work then, perhaps I'd think "respect" towards all the particularities of the different sources.

As you said, all my concern was to get those tracks to sound the more natural as possible. All those recordings are rather limited in order to do that and the more I tried to make these powerful in the past, the more it revealed to be the wrong way. Funnily, they look somehow more dynamic to me now, I think.

Anyway, I will download the other 2 CDs very soon and only expect the best. Soon this set will shine in my soundtrack collection.

If you began by CD3, you've already heard the best (excepted for the "Imperial March" I think). However you may be surprised by what some of the Anthology and SE tracks can give, though I messed up with a couple (CD2, tracks 4 & 6 notably).

But my best effort remains on the Imperial Edition, no matter what. There has been a lot of corrections I already summed up on the previous page here + notably the use of a 20Khz parametric EQ to deal with most of the Anthology tracks. And notably, the "IE" focuses on the CD3 slight alternate equalizations (for a big half of tracks), less bright, just what it needs.

Every one who saw that DVD may tell you how much "Drawing The Battle Lines" or "Carbon Freeze" sound great now. But they will sound good already on the AE.

Thanks.

So, have you been able to get some help ? Just interested to know if I'm the only one who have cared uploading this stuff once...

Just sharing that thought, perhaps some haven't seen that this way:

I never noticed, until seeying this in B&W with the creepy music that the trap of Vader ended in a spider web (the carbon freeze set)! I always wondered why we couldn't see the end of this unrealistic set... Simply amazing ! :)

JediTray said:

The only thing I disagree with, and not a concern with the AE, is the use of tracks that were not performed by the LSO and John Williams for the films.

Yes, of course. That's why I dropped what I had on the OE. But i's been a time I thought the film edit of "snowspeeder" had no interest.

The complete vesion Of Mynock Cave from the SE is of no more interest besides, considering the new one I've been able to make (see the IE DVD), and the "Rebel Escape" restored from the film mix doesn't worth a penny next to what's already in the set (the IE version is even better).

It makes then two bonus tracks interesting: both the Main & End Titles + a 3rd that I love: the "Asreroid Field" film version edit (has 15 sec. less - must have been reedited in 9 parts, quite unoticeable. Makes it more dynamic and thrilling).

This score is somehow hard to present the best way, if not through alternate sets.

Hehe, I suspect it is made to make a round count.

Or a quarry.

I'm afraid the Vertical Force doesn't tolerate anymore my virtual presence in this place. I then decided to offer my 400 kudos points to brown ewok.

Would make a nice avatar...

C3PX said:

TV's Frink said:

You'll be surprised by the nutrition facts!

Your mom will be surprised by the nutrition facts!

Please Mr

,

may you please avoid quoting googled images. It's enough to see these once. You don't want to spoil the most serious thread with those things, I'm sure.

So... I've got in all 270 kudos points + extras + the right to pop up my brand new bottle.

I'm wondering what C3Bottle is gonna do with his 700 kudos points... I feel a little abused here.

It was announced like a caricature of the politic thread, but it finally goes more like a one of "the thread is now about". A "who loses win" version.