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Who is the greatest Jedi of all time? (Dave Filoni says it is Anakin Skywalker. Is he?)

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Who is the greatest Jedi of all time?

 
In the latest trailer for the coming Ahsoka series, Dave Filoni says:

“We’re telling the story about this character [Ahsoka] who’s been trained by the greatest Jedi of all time in Anakin Skywalker.”
 

 
^ The 2 minute trailer can be seen on the official Star Wars YouTube channel here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpBJu52aZec
 

I suppose it rests on how you define “great”? So who for you is “the greatest Jedi of all time”, and why?

Or do you have no preference, but still disagree with Filoni on his above claim that Anakin is “the greatest”?
 

Or is Filoni simply trying to play up the importance of Ahsoka in the GFFA, for his “religious experience” of an Ahsoka series?

“Don’t tell anyone… but when ‘Star Wars’ first came out, I didn’t know where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you’ve planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other stories - let’s call them homages - and you’ve got a series.” - George Lucas

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I’ll go with Filoni just trying to remind everyone Ahsoka’s importance in Star Wars, to promote his Ahsoka show. Despite 30+ years passing, and many other stories in and events in her life, since Ahsoka was trained by Anakin for those 2 and half years.

(was it only 2 and a half years? it seems longer).

 

Edit: It was also Anakin’s selfishness, greed, and lust for more, that led him to the path of eventually joining the dark side.

Even George Lucas states this on many occasions. Just a few examples:

https://gffa.tumblr.com/post/163372848020/george-lucas-2010-at-the-clone-wars-writers
https://writerbuddha.tumblr.com/post/652270734706688000/george-lucas-on-attachment-from-1999-to-2021
https://twitter.com/AllThingsJedi/status/1506335678971453444
http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2017/04/selfish-love-why-the-jedi-were-right-about-attachment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNV0VVFcDkQ

Anakin was indeed an awful Jedi.

The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.

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Slaughtering a room full of children would be an automatic disqualifier for the title of “the greatest Jedi ever”.

Or butchering an entire village years earlier: “I killed them. I killed them all. They’re dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They’re like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals!”

Force-choking his pregnant wife.
 

For me, Anakin was a terrible Jedi.

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas

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My view is that Filoni’s statement is just more empty rhetoric, from a creator who often struggles without rewriting and retconning other creatives’ previous work, as both you guys nailed here and here, in The 2008 Clone Wars messes up continuity thread.

I say that as someone who actually enjoys some of his writing and work.
 

Anakin was likely the worst Jedi ever, betraying the Jedi Order, and murdering thousands of Jedi, overseeing a galaxy-wide inquisition, and his lust for power seeing him side with those responsible for millions of deaths, and the oppression and suffering of billions galaxy wide, for an entire generation.

Before that we merely had impatience and petulance, shit-talking about his friend and master, perving and making women uncomfortable, and lusting for power. Married in secret against the Jedi code. Executed a defeated & unarmed man, And also what Caston wrote in the post above.

If Anakin was “the greatest Jedi of all time” he wouldn’t have fallen to the dark side. He wasn’t even seduced by it, as we were told by Obi-Wan previously; Anakin was easily and quickly manipulated into joining the Sith by a vague promise that they could somehow save the woman he loved… from some bad dreams he was having about her dying in childbirth. And that lust for power.

Yes, he was strong, powerful and effective soldier & leader in the Clone Wars. Yet as Yoda says, “Wars not make one great”.

 

But yeah, Filoni probably felt viewers and fans likely needed a reminder of the link to the more recognizable legacy characters.

Which is a little surprising given Ahsoka has previously appeared in The Clone Wars (both 2008 film & 2008 series), Rebels, The Rise Of Skywalker (voice), The Mandalorian, The Book Of Boba Fett, Tales Of The Jedi, Galaxy Of Adventures, and Forces Of Destiny. And I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw her briefly appear in Bad Batch, Skeleton Crew, or even a brief one-shot cameo or reference to her as Fulcrum, in Andor too.

“Don’t tell anyone… but when ‘Star Wars’ first came out, I didn’t know where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you’ve planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other stories - let’s call them homages - and you’ve got a series.” - George Lucas

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Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
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Vodo-Siosk Baas in the greatest Jedi of all time. He took a stick to a lightsaber fight. Mad respect.

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― Leo Tolstoy

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I’m going to have to disagree with Filoni, as usual… lol

I’d say Yoda probably.

Move along, move along.

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I could be wrong, but I believe what Filoni is getting at is how Anakin “is the greatest Jedi”.

For what he’s done I wouldn’t call Anakin great in the aspect of moral value, but of his significance in the whole narrative of Star Wars, in the events of what occurred in the lore. That’s how I perceive it anyway.

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Greatest by what measure? Body count?

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Mocata said:

Greatest by what measure? Body count?

In this case, Anakin is the best Jedi. His body count is 1, while all the other Jedi were virgins. Also, Padmé alone makes Anakin earn 10 points, as she was the sexiest woman in the Galaxy at her time. Lmao.

“Sometimes we must let go of our pride, and do what is requested to us.”
– Anakin Skywalker

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“the greatest Jedi of all time” -Filoni

“Is he not to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the force?” -Obi-Wan

“So Lucas says” -Prequel Haters

“A prophecy, misread could have been.” -Disney

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Obi-Wan is the greatest out of what we’ve seen, probably. Alongside Luke, and I guess Rey.

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Luke of course.

“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord

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If greatness in this case is measured in typical sense of contributions, reforms, innovations, and influence I’d say Anakin isn’t the greatest Jedi, especially because he tore down everything The Jedi stand for. If Filoni means greatness in the sense of impact on the galaxy, and his prowess as a Jedi then yes he is great.

“There is a tremor in the Force.”

“Give yourself to the dark side.” -Lord Vader

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Overcoming years of (deserved) repressed guilt, a terrible upbringing, years of service to an abusive master, etc etc in order to save a loved one and thereby killing the Sith Lord who had masterminded a galactic war and subsequently held the galaxy under his power is undeniably great. You can’t measure Anakin without taking the end of ROTJ into consideration.

But anyway, discovering how to be one with the Force after death such that somehow you can manifest as an individual ghost is a pretty big deal so maybe it should be Qui-Gon.

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Luke, he realized the arrogance of the Prequel Jedi. Too bad he repeated their mistakes. Only Luke could have said Its time for the Jedi to end.