They could use percentages as a way to express opinion, but still use the signature. 78.4% of us think this is the case, 12.3% of us think this is complete BS, 5.6% of us went out for tacos two weeks ago and haven't come back yet, and 3.7% of us are a stray cat the rest of us just kind of adopted even though we still behave kinda sketchy when we're inside.
We believe that being elitist about Star Wars, and wishing it remained a small, but obscure piece of work, is the wrong way to look at it. Star Wars is, and will be accessible to the people, and we hope to be a part in keeping that way.
Team Negative1
We believe you're responding to a post no one made. We also believe this nonsense is coming to an end, and soon.
Team Olie
hairy_hen said:
I'm starting to believe that -1 is actually just one guy with multiple personalities. That is why the entire team is always in agreement.
Why would multiple personalities always be in agreement? Identity and LOTR proved otherwise.
Team Allie
Preferring quality over quantity is not the same as being elitist or wishing it remains an obscure work. I prefer an obscure classic to popular pulp, but a popular classic is better. However, Star Wars is not the Bible, George Lucas is not Jesus, and I suspect Team -1 is not a group of Jehova's witnesses, so I don't get this get to the people business.
DrDre said:
I suspect Team -1 is not a group of Jehova's witnesses
We have proof that 37% of the team is exactly that.
Team Olie
I think you meant you have Faith that they are exacty that... ;-)
team_negative1 said:
We believe that being elitist about Star Wars, and wishing it remained a small, but obscure piece of work, is the wrong way to look at it. Star Wars is, and will be accessible to the people, and we hope to be a part in keeping that way.
What a bunch of bullshit.
Star Wars was obscure for about 26 seconds during the seventies. I was there, man, before it went big time. You don't know.
We were into Star Wars before it was cool.
Team Hipster Olie
team_negative1 said:
We believe that being elitist about Star Wars, and wishing it remained a small, but obscure piece of work, is the wrong way to look at it. Star Wars is, and will be accessible to the people, and we hope to be a part in keeping that way.
Team Negative1
We believe you've finally earned this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXhDI3Kaw6w
team_exasperated
team_negative1 said:
We believe that being elitist about Star Wars, and wishing it remained a small, but obscure piece of work, is the wrong way to look at it.
Star Wars was never obscure nor small.
If you think Star Wars was obscure in the 90's before the SE, with all the novels, comics, toys, video games, board games, constant references on TV shows and movies, regular TV airings, ect. going on, then I wonder what you'd think of truly obscure films...
Anything less that ultra popular must be off your radar.
I remember exactly what it was that first got me interested me in Star Wars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r68kedSFRRM
That was in 1994. Before the SEs. Before the Faces set, even.
Obscure-in-the-'90s my eye.
^yeah, yeah... but where'd ya see that add, huh? Probably on something obscure like prime time television. That's where I remember it from. During some forgotten show like The Simpsons. And for such an small product!
; )
DuracellEnergizer said:
I remember exactly what it was that first got me interested me in Star Wars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r68kedSFRRM
That was in 1994. Before the SEs. Before the Faces set, even.
Obscure-in-the-'90s my eye.
Is there a special edition of that ad with Vader screaming "NOOOOOOO!" at the end? If not can somebody do that?
Ceci n’est pas une signature.
I'd love to have Vader's scream as an isolated sound element.
what an amazing sound you discovered
If it weren’t for the Special Editions and the Prequels resurrecting the franchise, none of us would be here.
There would be no OT forums, there would be no projects, there would be no discussions. There would be a few bootleg DVD’s, and probably some laserdisc transfers being traded on ebay or some science fiction forums, but that would be about it.
Open the pod bay doors, HAL
The jumping of the shark moment for me was Yoda spinning around like a monkey and fighting at the end of the second prequel. A part of me died that day.
^You forgot to mention his sounds of constipation. Those were truly the coup de grace.
When the prequel ghosts showed up at the end of rotj. That was my moment.
The “One Last Time” campaign. As I said previously, it was a warning. Had we taken it more seriously, the long-term effects could have been reversed!
Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.
Interesting to see that nobody in this thread has cited TPM as the decisive moment. I was 13 when I saw TPM, and it was still Star Wars in my mind. Like many here have said, it was AOTC which broke the Star Wars universe. Suddenly it wasn’t real anymore, it aligned with nothing that I thought the Star Wars prequels should have been. After that there was George’s Star Wars and my Star Wars.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
Couldn’t agree more. Phantom Menace was a warning sign, yet AOTC was what truly damaged Star Wars beyond repair.
The Person in Question
The thing everyone has to remember is that Lucas was creating a kids movie. His target demographic was kids age 7-13. Its impossible to be objective as an adult and watch the pequals with the same child like filter we had when the originals came out. As bad, no as horribly atrocious, as the Star Wars Holiday special was, as an 8 yr old, I craved it! I couldnt wait to watch it once I knew it was coming out. Then roughly 30 years later when I got a copy of it and watched it again, I about lost my lunch it was so bad. But as an 8 yr old, I filtered out the crap, the bad acting, the fact Carrie was high on acid or drunk one, and enjoyed visiting with my favorite Star Wars heros in a different setting again. I remember my Dad making a comment several years ago about the bad acting in ANH. In my mind Im thinking, “Bad acting? You had some world class actors in that movie. How could it be bad?” But TOT is so ingrained in our minds and psyche, that its next to impossible to be objective when watching it. Fast forward to the prequals. As adults, in contrast, it is impossible to watch with the objectiveness of a childs mind. The one thing that came through for me, was the love in my heart for these movies. The prequals are like a red-headed step child that you grow to love, no matter how bad it is. I can remember as a kid listening to Obi-Wan tell Luke about his father and the clone wars, and my imagination running wild trying to create scenes of what the clone wars mightve looked like. Or a young Obi-Wan side by side with Anakin in his prime. The prequals gave us a glimpse of that, but through the muddied,cynical mind of an adult. Yeh, its not what we imagined as kids, but at least we have something as a referance, albeit kind of bad. I have not yet sensed a disturbance, but I do try my best to summon my inner 7, 10 and 13 yr old everytime I hear of something new from the Star Wars universe coming my way. The most recent thing being the discovery of TN1’s Silver Edition a week or so ago. Ive sat and watched it on my projector screen 2 or 3 times and everytime Im whisked away to that place a 7yr old me was the first time I saw it.