When did Star Wars stop being fun? (aka, the Anti-Correct Viewing Order thread) — Page 2

Still fun for me.  I don't dwell too much on what could/should have been, I just enjoy the fanedits and preservations that are available to me.

I remember the 97 SE fondly, but it had more to do with the experience of seeing it in the theater after all those years.

fishmanlee said:

Mielr said:

 

fishmanlee said:

the 1997 re-releases werent that bad, it was the 1999+ DVD's and anti-OT Lucas that were

I think the 1997 re-releases were bad. There were parts of them that made my stomach turn.

 

 but they were the SE's back then, now in the 2004 they are the Original Trilogy.

The 1997 SEs are now the Original Trilogy?  What you talkin' bout, Willis?

Or are you saying the 1997 SEs are the same as the 2004 DVDs?

Or...

Wait, what the hell are you saying?

Oh...wait, you're British now?

xhonzi said:

He's saying they've stopped being referred to as "Special" editions of our favourite films, and now they are referred to as "the" editions of our favourite films.

Read it again.

Probably at the moment they played the new song in ROTJ SE. lol

Although I would say after rewatching Jedi a few times--its with that movie that SW went downhill.

Everyone complains about the ewoks but its the characters--they are really one dimensional.

No edge.

Han Solo--ruined.

Leia-no authority or wit.

Lando--wow he really joined the rebellion fast didnt he?  Missed opportunity--at least show us him and Han having a little chat after rescuing him.

Yoda and Obi Wan--not their finest moments.

After much thought I think I would have preferred that Lucas had gone with his other option--that Vader wasnt a mindslave of the Emperor but had his own will and reasons to be on the Dark Side-and he was competing for Luke-that he wanted to overthrow the Emperor.

I loved the Emperor in Jedi-such a great villain to hate-but I think it came at Vader's expense.

I loved how Vader turned on the Emp at the end-I still get goosebumps from that moment--but here's the thing, Luke was turned into a rather wimpy character. The whole thing was simplified.

In ESB-it seemed that the story was moving towards some kind of confrontation or rivalry between Luke and Han over Leia--(I really hate the "you're my sister" angle--no matter what Lucas says now-its clear that was not planned in 77 or 80--same with Vader being Luke's father).

And the visual look of ROTJ was repetitive and dull compared to SW and ESB. It just didnt have that grand scope of the other films.

I am not sure how I feel about Han Solo being killed as I heard recently was being considered originally--its hard to see how that could have worked unless they freed him at the start and maybe he was tracked down by Jabba's heirs in some kind of blood debt...I dont know. Once Ford did Raiders his stardom changed things--but I still have problems seeing how he could have been killed after being rescued.

I think the Jabba palace scene went on a long time and I find it a bit confusing--in ESB Lando and Chewie search for Boba Fett--and will contact Luke-and their rendyvous is Tattooine--doesnt that mean they already know where Boba Fett is going? My initial assumption was that Jabba was not on Tattooine (before the SE of course)  but somewhere else more exotic (not sure I would have wanted to revisit Tattooine--or the suggestion that this big gangster lived on the same backwater planet that Luke was on). But I digress..

Boba Fett was ruined as a character in ROTJ(even more so in the SE).

I think Leia should have been made Queen to give her something more to do.

Anyway i can watch ROTJ and still enjoy it but the whole thing has been tainted.

Some people have said SW was really about optimism but I dont think so---there was quite a lot of killing and dark stuff even in the 77 movie-people were living under a dictatorship after all--in Raiders he made Indiana Jones guilty of statuatory rape-deliberately.

I think the OT movies were a coming of age story--teenagers, young adults, then adults.

I think Lucas changed the story from being about Luke becoming a jedi to redeeming his father which i think reduced its potential(despite the charm of the idea).

Anyway-if there was any expanded universe I might have wanted to see-it would have been the adventures of Han Solo and Chewbacca.

Otherwise I dont really care to see that much of the universe explored(especially after the prequels!).

No I'm just your long lost clone

;)

The fighting robots and distracting dinosaurs in Mos Eisley.

Tallguy said:

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BUT - having just watched SW and ESB on my 50" widescreen in anamorphic glory (I'm not sure which version, but I'd take any links to the "best" OUT version) AND watching Star Wars: Revisited with my 8 month old son in my lap and my 2 year old daughter snuggled next to me:

Star Wars is still crazy fun.

It's nice to see the crazy fun sneak through.

Well, I am admittedly much younger than most people on this site, but Star Wars has been and is really fun for me.  Maybe because I never got into anything other than the movies.  I've never read any novels, comic books, etc.  Just books that go along with the movies, like the Annotated Scripts and novelizations.

TPM came out when I was in 6th grade, and I loved it at first.  Now, I just watch the OT.  I can't even remember the last time I saw any of the PT.

So my suggestion is to take it back down to basics.  Forget anything else and just go back to the movies.  They are fun all on their own without needing to expand on any of them.  Just sit back and enjoy the movies!  :D

I'm bumping my old thread as this whole blu-ray mess is certianly about as much fun as I thought it would be.  So I want to vent.  It seems all being a SW fan is good for is complaining.  And that doesn't matter if you love the new additions and complain about those fans who "don't get it" or the majority of this fans on this site who are tired of the constant carousel of random changes and just want the original versions in meaty blu-ray quality.

Anyone else want to vent?  Have at it.  I can't wait for the time when SW is fun again.