The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 637

Let’s just try the new lines first. Hopefully they blend well enough not to need anything else, so let’s start there.

DominicCobb said:

Octorox said:

All this AI dialogue stuff sounds really promising. I definitely think we could generate some stuff specifically for the Rey Nobody version as well.

I’ve been hard at work. I’m much busier these days than at the start of the pandemic when the movie just came out on blu-ray, but hopefully I’ll have something to share within the next few weeks, and Hal can take a look and see what he may or may not want to use for his version.

Oh, God bless you for that. Thanks in advance. I can barely remember how the Rey Nobody version works, logically, though if I had a brain-smoothie and two hours I’m sure I could have done it. lol

Throw it alllll out, and start up fresh with the essential ability to make Kylo Ren say whatever you need him to say.

I look forward to teasing that out.

DominicCobb said:

I’ve been hard at work. I’m much busier these days than at the start of the pandemic when the movie just came out on blu-ray, but hopefully I’ll have something to share within the next few weeks, and Hal can take a look and see what he may or may not want to use for his version.

About time, too. 😁

Hal 9000 said:
Shuttle vs TIE? (I know, I know… I’ll abide by the prior poll)
I think I missed this, what is this about?
Also, do you have any intention to use the updated version of Jon H’s Force Ghost scene? At least the one with Leia?

As gorgeous as Leia looks in Jon H’s revised Force ghost sequence, I don’t plan to expand beyond the familiar four spirits of Ben, Yoda, Luke, and Anakin. It goes against the film refraining from her (fully?) joining the Force until her son does, which would require a great deal in order to make work effectively. (We’re straining things as it is hearing her utter one word.)

As far as the shuttle vs TIE… poppasketti rendered out an Imperial shuttle to replace the regular TIE fighter that Ben uses to get to Exegol during the final act of the movie. The idea being that ANH made a point of saying that “a fighter that size couldn’t get this deep into space on its own,” and indeed ancillary material such as the novelization had to come up with a reason to explain why a seemingly regular TIE could get Ben there through hyperspace. So, even though it is a trivial matter, poppasketti spent a lot of time and effort to replace it with a shuttle which we have seen use a hyperdrive onscreen before and which would be plausible to also find laying around a ruined Death Star.

However, poppasketti also rendered out the same shot with other assets swapped in for the TIE. Some of these were jokes, such as the Tianic, Enterprise, and DeLorean. But one was Vader’s TIE from ANH. And some people around here expressed favoring using this instead of the shuttle. They liked the symmetry of Luke’s ship and Vader’s ship, and it looked better visually. However, I preferred the shuttle because it seems to make more sense. (Where did Vader’s TIE come from? We even see him arrive on the second Death Star using a shuttle. Was it onboard his Super Star Destroyer, and fall onto the Death Star when they collided??)

So, I put it to a vote. Which I sort of regret, because my preferred option lost out! But, I have not heard complaints about it anyway, so V2 had Vader’s TIE deliver Ben to Exegol.

They’re included along with the movie itself wherever I’ve made it available. Labeled as a gag reel.

The Shuttle does make more thematic sense too! Because the last time a Shuttle left Death Star II it was carrying Luke and a redeemed Anakin. Now it departs with a redeemed Ben. Plus I love the ROTJ call back as well. I get the symbolism of Vader’s TIE, but man that Shuttle VFX was nice.

Vader’s Tie me no-likey.

https://youtu.be/9Swd_pFdcXE?t=80

😉

Also… even more symbolism with the Shuttle is that it is Palpatine’s ride so instead of the shot having Vader’s and Luke’s ships, it literally symbolizes Rey’s choice of Skywalker or Palpatine…

NeverarGreat said:

Vader’s Tie me no-likey.

https://youtu.be/9Swd_pFdcXE?t=80

😉

God damn if that movie isn’t twenty-three years old at this point. And I watched the rest of the clip, lol.

Can I give Nev the power of like ten votes?

That movie is the best.

Addressing one of the concerns for the shuttle, what if it was just farther back in the shot than the X-wing? That way it would appear to be about the same size as the X-wing.

Alternatively, I think just turning the TIE into a common variant like the TIE Interceptor would be just as acceptable to me, especially since that shares a lot of design language with Kylo’s two TIE fighters. I could believe that some Interceptors had Hyperdrives by the time of ROTJ. It would also look sleek next to the X-wing if anyone wanted to tackle a Ben lives edit where he takes off in the TIE fighter after the battle and the two ships fly side-by-side for a shot or two before breaking off to go their separate ways.

But now I’m simply fantasizing.

It might look too similar to his own ship, and people may wonder where he got another one of his own ships.

In a world where the DSII has wreckage recognizable from the overall shape… I think a shuttle being in mint condition is a cinch.

And I do like the read on a shuttle delivering Vader into the DSII and Anakin’s body out of it. So… this relitigates it maybe.

Ah yeah! I remember those renders now. If I had it my way Ben would take the Titanic, lol. I see the argument for both, but I think the TIE makes enough sense to work.

To be honest, I forgot that Leia didn’t fade away until the end of the movie. The main four are definitely iconic, I do kinda wish there was a version with just those four and Leia. I think adding Mace and Ahsoka is a bit too much, but it’s honestly more than great as it is.

Artan42 said:

This AI stuff is getting closer to the point where somebody could feasibly replace Ren’s conversation on the DSII with the han-ucination with a more thematically appropriate Anakin.

It’d save us the effort of rotscoping. XD