The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 152

I think one thing that makes restructuring the opening feel wrong is that even though we hear “the Falcon still hasn’t reported in,” we see Poe and Finn appearing to just start their mission. The reason it took so long to get back was because Poe screwed up the Falcon with his shenanigans.

omnimuffin said:

idir_hh said:

Hal 9000 said:
And as cool of an idea as it is, Palpatine’s microphone reading of “more than a clone, less than a man” just seems to different to fit in.

Maybe some of the audio wizards here could work on it?
Here’s the source: https://youtu.be/orSF0EvYRD4?t=1099

I’ve been meaning to do more work on it, but here’s a cleaner version. If used, it could probably use a just a hint of reverb and some bass boosting.

https://vocaroo.com/krCqQTl0X9j

A little choppy, but it’s an improvement.

Hal 9000 said:

DZ-330 said:

Here is a very rough mockup of the restructure:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kUZNzMavv6m_hTcBi1yqY4–sQalmApq/view?usp=sharing

Link says I need access. (I requested it.)

Corrected 😉

Hal 9000 said:

I think one thing that makes restructuring the opening feel wrong is that even though we hear “the Falcon still hasn’t reported in,” we see Poe and Finn appearing to just start their mission. The reason it took so long to get back was because Poe screwed up the Falcon with his shenanigans.

That could also be assumed to be they haven’t reported in to say they got to the ice planet or met up with the spy. Either or 🤷‍♂️

If I had to decide one way or the other permanently right now, I still lean toward leaving the structure of the opening as it is. However, I remain open to being persuaded and shown that it can work.

I won’t dub and sub Boolio unless there’s something to gain. Anybody think of some thing he could say to imply that the final order consists of old imperial star destroyers, that wouldn’t be too heavy handed or weird?

Also, one of you posted a good while ago a good edit point to remove the lightspeed skipping reference once the falcon returns. Who was that? It seemed good but I can’t remember how it went.

Finn:
“Got something for us?”

Boolio:
Yeah, sounds like they stumbled upon an old Imperial fleet, at least the spy said so.

Finn:
“A spy? Who?”

Boolio:
I don’t know! Just take the message.

Finn:
“How do we thank you?”

Boolio:
Thank the spy.

poppasketti said:

Knight of Kalee said:

I guess the engine sound effects are just a placeholder, right?

Yeah, those are placeholder. I just wanted to show that if you leave the music sting as-is, there should be some sounds of the ship taking off during the last Kylo closeup to help ease the passage of time between cuts. Alternatively, you could tweak and extend the music. I’m not sure which would be better.

Movies Remastered said:

My only issue with that scene is the fact they would be flying into oncoming toe fighters. I always wondered how the escaped that chase so ease.

I actually think the ties would be coming from camera left on the last shot. This is based on where Poe points and where Finn looks as he runs back towards the ship. In any case, this is what we could do with the available material. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I think it’s a great scene you’ve made. I’m just used to being scrutinized for every detail.

Hal, It’s just taken me forever to upload this DOTF clip in 480p but I hope it gives you an idea of the direction I went.

https://vimeo.com/430129301
px: fanedit

Finn- “got something for us?”

Boolio- “There’s a spy in the First Order. The Supreme leader, he’s found something, the rumoured hidden fleet from the old war. And there’s more…”

Finn- A Spy? Who?

Boolio- "Just get the message to Leia, we don’t have time! "

Finn- “how do we thank you?”

Boolio- “Win the war”

Hal 9000 said:

If I had to decide one way or the other permanently right now, I still lean toward leaving the structure of the opening as it is. However, I remain open to being persuaded and shown that it can work.

I won’t dub and sub Boolio unless there’s something to gain. Anybody think of some thing he could say to imply that the final order consists of old imperial star destroyers, that wouldn’t be too heavy handed or weird?

Also, one of you posted a good while ago a good edit point to remove the lightspeed skipping reference once the falcon returns. Who was that? It seemed good but I can’t remember how it went.

Darth Muffy said:

Possible Changes/Addition Ideas:

Mustafar

• 00:03:10 - Palpatines “find me” line to Kylo
  Sounds a bit clean possibly give his voice some dream like fx, maybe adding an echoing effect ?

Beginning Chase

• Remove Klaud scenes
  As already been mentioned by others

• Make Boolio speak Alien & adding subtitles
  Although Mark Hamill voiced him the scene would feel alot better to have the charactor subed.

Resistance Base

• Remove light speed skip talk from 00:13:41 to 00:13:51

Passana

• Remove “they fly now!”
  As already been mentioned by others

• Remove Kylos exploding tie centre piece after crash @ 00:38:44

• 00:39:31 - Rey & Kylo Force Pulling Ship
  I find it really odd how close they both are to each other yet Kylo instead of just walker over to Rey just stands there using the force then watches as they run off. Removing 00:39:31 to 00:39:33 and slight cropping of Ren @ 00:37:47 & 00:39:55 we are left thinking theres some distance between Rey & Ren.
  

Kijimi

• 00:45:39 Zorii telling Poe “I want to see your brains in the snow”
  Doesn’t sound like what a StarWars character would say. dropping that line leaving her slight nod to Poe holding a gun to his head would be a much better effect.

Exegol

• 01:50:04 - Dyad Exposition Talk
  Having Palpatine explaining more exposition at this point does cheapen the scene more so if it was possible to just have him simply realising theres a mysterious force between Rey & Ren without touting the dyad exposition it would add more by saying less. Also maybe remove talk elsewhere about force Dyad.

• 01:57:12 - Have the force ghosts disappear AFTER Palpatine explodes @ 01:57:17

Theres one other final big change which I feel would make a big difference involving Leia & the sabre battle with Rey & Ben but I’ll try and show it rather then explain it here via a mock up I’ll do to better explain.
Also cutting Chewies original alive reveal does kind of speed up on screen an already fast pasted film.

That was me Hal also heres that change involving Leia & the sabre battle with Rey & Ben.
Please bear in mind its only a crude proof of concept vid I’m running a lowly HTPC and using Win10 default Video app to cut and paste this together but I hope you get the idea.

Rens Redemption:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NQmlOR2p-7ad6a4NBYTSjxmJ7xlnK6-j/view?usp=sharing

jordan_winter said:

Movies Remastered said:

poppasketti said:

Knight of Kalee said:

I guess the engine sound effects are just a placeholder, right?

Yeah, those are placeholder. I just wanted to show that if you leave the music sting as-is, there should be some sounds of the ship taking off during the last Kylo closeup to help ease the passage of time between cuts. Alternatively, you could tweak and extend the music. I’m not sure which would be better.

Movies Remastered said:

My only issue with that scene is the fact they would be flying into oncoming toe fighters. I always wondered how the escaped that chase so ease.

I actually think the ties would be coming from camera left on the last shot. This is based on where Poe points and where Finn looks as he runs back towards the ship. In any case, this is what we could do with the available material. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I think it’s a great scene you’ve made. I’m just used to being scrutinized for every detail.

Hal, It’s just taken me forever to upload this DOTF clip in 480p but I hope it gives you an idea of the direction I went.

https://vimeo.com/430129301
px: fanedit

This is fantastic! Having heard rumours that Duel of the Fates would appear in the movie, I was convinced the moment the Sith Eternal choir turned up they had to be the ones to belt out that tune. This is exactly what I had imagined it would sound like!

This is one of my several goosebumps moments that I’ve created. It was so much fun finding places to add soundtracks. 😎

Thanks for posting that! I know it took some patience with your connection.

It’s too bad footage had to be reversed in order to get enough room. I think finding some alternate source for a choir belting out those notes, maybe with a little less gusto, would help make it feel diagetic to that moment.

I agree though, it’s a natural idea for that moment.

As cool as some of the ideas have been for Ben’s redemption, the only restructuring I’m planning to do is to move Rey’s lines to before she heals Ben.

Muffy, could you direct me to the clip you referenced about removing the lightspeed skipping?

Hal 9000 said:

Muffy, could you direct me to the clip you referenced about removing the lightspeed skipping?

It wasn’t a clip as such just timestamps on your workprint for cutting the light speed skip argument between Poe & Rey.

If I cut along those time stamps there’d still be a reference to lightspeed skipping but not as heavy of a focus. Might work.

majoras_wrath said:

Hal 9000 said:

If I cut along those time stamps there’d still be a reference to lightspeed skipping but not as heavy of a focus. Might work.

Krausfadr posted a clip of how he edited the scene a while back:

https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1347166/action/topic#1347166

Yes, that’s it! Thank you. 😃

We could just straight up dub Boolio, but again, only if it serves the story by implying that the Final Order is modified old destroyers.

And I like Boolio so I’m okay with NOT doing this.

Personally, I would remove Leia’s line, “Rey. Never be afraid of who you are.”

Hal 9000 said:

Thanks for posting that! I know it took some patience with your connection.

It’s too bad footage had to be reversed in order to get enough room. I think finding some alternate source for a choir belting out those notes, maybe with a little less gusto, would help make it feel diagetic to that moment.

I agree though, it’s a natural idea for that moment.

If you didn’t like the reverse extra footage you can always add the choir to Rey’s entrance to Exagol? I first added it their but I thought it made a bigger impact at the sacrifice moment.

@jkimm, If you cut it that heavy you’ll miss the “never underestimate a droid” line. If you use a cut away to bb8 you can still keep that line of dialogue.