StarkillerAG said:
jarbear said:
^^^ Hahah, if one could do it, perfectly though, it would be funny the “old” AT-AT does shoots down Finn’s speeder when the “brand new ones” can’t do it.
But doesn’t one of the new AT-ATs shoot down Finn in Poppa’s version? If you animated one of the old AT-ATs, then had one of the new ones make the shot, it would cause a continuity error.
I personally don’t think the idea is necessary. It seems like way too much work for almost nothing. Finn’s crash comes out of nowhere in the theatrical version too, so it’s not a big deal for me.
I called it an ATAT out of laziness/speed. To clarify, I am talking about the/a ‘Gorilla’ walker.
Sorry not to be specific enough, I appreciate it’s confusing since there are actual ATAT’s in the scene 😃
I’ll put up a screenshot shortly just to clarify the shot and walker I’m talking about.
Anyhow, I agree that it IS ultimately unnecessary. As I said it’s just detail for details sake and is such a small detail its probably just not worth the effort on this occasion.
My only counter point to the ‘it’s supposed to be a surprise/come out of nowhere’ argument, raised by Jarbear is this:-
It still would be?..because no first time viewer is looking for it in that moment.
All bets are off in subsequent viewings because the surprise element is only a surprise the first time?
After that, the ongoing reward for a viewer is in appreciating the details, the set up?
As above, the walkers are small In the frame and the primary action which draws the audience eyes is happening elsewhere so im not proposing that the moment is accentuated, telegraphed or highlighted in any way…only that it’s there for anyone purposely looking for it?
The thought process/guiding light behind most of my suggestions and offerings of ideas is that although mostly unnecessary in the wider, more general sense, it‘s just extra layers of detail that could be added to help further sell the ‘re-imagining’ of such a sequence?
What I’m saying is that the most successful fan edit’s are the ones that treat their changes as not a just fan service, corrections, or alterations to fit in with the personal preferences of the editor, but in comprehensively approaching any changes as if they were always supposed to be the way that they are now being presented or re-imagined?
Poppa’s TLJ is one of (if not THE best of) those examples?
In my opinion, Poppa has approached each change as its own story that has a beginning, middle and end and has applied the appropriate and associated logic from their very roots and as such the changes are seamlessly integrated, so my suggestion here is just another small detail in that theme…in the same way I suggested changing the targeting graphic to match the angle of approach and another member suggested the placement of the actual target on that graphic.
DETAILS. Small. Insignificant when viewed on their own, but when combined they all contribute to delivering a vision and a narrative that rivals or even exceeds the quality of the source material?
I think of it like this:
If this had been a studio release, would fans scrutinise the sequence and cry out that it’s some sort of a continuity error?
Maybe. Probably. At least knowing how passionate the SW fanbase is about EVERYTHING.
I can imagine it now:-
The potential complaints about how the At-At wasn’t sighted at Finn’s speeder in this shot and because of that, it subsequently wouldn’t have had sufficient time to shift it’s inertia to take aim between shots…IT’S A PLOT HOLE, RIAN JOHNSON HAS RUINED STARWARS!
(‘you KNOW it to be true’?)
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting that here, it’s just an example and it’s is small potatoes but if the fanbase could/would pick things apart to that level of detail then for fan edits/changes to blend in seamlessly they should probably be subject to similar scrutiny?
Let me be clear, im not arguing the necessity of this change to be made.
Im actually commending EVERYTHING Poppa has done on this edit and the very reason it’s so strong and so special is exactly because all of his changes have had that level of care taken.