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The Last Jedi : Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS INSIDE ** — Page 17

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Right here. Most of their sources are the official “Art Of” books for TFA and TLJ.

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Hello!!

my name is Jon, it is the first time I write and I do it from Spain, and in Spanish, then I translate it with the google translator, forgive me if something is not understood.

I had an idea, in which Luke would leave the planet ach-to, instead of staying on the island. I did not like the Jedi projection of Luke very much, I was sorry that the character of Luke did not leave at any time on the island. I thought you could take the final sequence in which you are using force and looking at the suns, to put it before the planet Crait, and taking the scene of the x-wing sunk in the water, and that luke take the ship out of the water , like yoda in Episode V, (I could do it in after effects). So we would see how luke is the same as always and lets the force in again. Then we would see some small luke sequence inside the x-wing (I could also get it with after effects), I was left with the desire to see him pilot Luke. Then in the final fight with Kylo ren, Luke would let himself be overcome as he did obi-wan, to become one with the force and power gives time to resistance to escape, and to be able to train rey as a ghost of force.

I do not know what you think, I think it can be interesting.

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ImperialFighter said:

Personally, I’ll always wish that George had given us a Sequel Trilogy storyline to the OT back in 1999, instead of the Prequel Trilogy he focused on - I recall seeing interviews with Mark, Harrison, and Carrie from around that period, and they all looked wonderful despite being much older than their earlier OT glory days.

The thing is, I’m sure George could have easily come up with a new Sequel Trilogy which would have involved the whole OT gang onscreen together again some way, at this point. But alas, I got the likes of Jar Jar stepping in poodoo instead.

And by the time the actual Sequel Trilogy came along, J.J. ended up coming up with a TFA storyline which ‘estranged’ Luke, Han, and Leia from each other…and which killed off Han…thus depriving me of a potential ‘reunion’ scene with those 3 characters in it’s follow-up.

Which all added up to a missed opportunity, as far as I’m concerned.

However, we are where we are, and now Rian has conceived a TLJ storyline which seems to dliberately subvert certain expectations, and actually dismiss some of the things set up by J.J.'s instalment.

Fair enough, but it’s going to be interesting to see how things pan out due to the unforeseen loss of Carrie, and the fact that J.J. is back in the driver’s seat for the next chapter.

Anyway, with a few alterattions it seems possible to tweak TLJ into something I’d much prefer to see - something a lot less ‘jokey’ in tone overall, but which retains the humourous moments I happen to like.

But as I recently mentioned on page 14 of this thread, the MAIN thing I’d like to alter for myself is how the ‘Luke being tempted to kill his nephew’ scene was handled - well, what I’d originally intended to do was just make Luke tell Rey THE TRUTH STRAIGHT AWAY, when recounting his ‘backstory’ about Kylo to her. This at least would make him seem less evasive in the movie.

However, I had the opportunity to go and see TLJ for a third and final time will another family menber the other day, and was pleased to confirm that I could cobble together a version of the ‘Kylo backstory’ I’m satisfied with…which DOESN’T involve Luke being ‘tempted to kill his nephew’ with his lightsaber at all.

So here’s how I intend to alter things for myself -

…at the point where Luke starts to tell Rey about Kylo, he ends up saying “…by the time I realised I was no match for the darkness rising in him…it was too late…” (at this point we see Luke in close-up as he recalls what happened)

…then I’d CUT to the close-up of Kylo asleep as Luke’s voice-over continues “…I’d sensed it building in him…”, and as the shot pans up to reveal Luke standing nearby with his hand outstretched, we’d continue with the rest of Luke’s voice-over until we eventually see his anguished face in close-up as his voice-over ends on him saying “…Snoke had already turned his heart…”

…then at this point, I’d CUT to the shot of Luke being ‘forced pushed’ by Kylo’s arms, as Luke yells “BEN, NO!”…and continue on from that shot as per the movie, where we then see the scene of devastation as Luke’s voice continues “He must have thought I was dead…”, and continue on as we see the younger ‘hooded Luke’ in close-up as his voice-over ends with “…I failed…”

…and continue on from that as per the movie, as we revert back to ‘old Luke’ in close-up as he says “…because I was Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master…a legend…”

…and continue on from that as per the movie, as Rey responds and eventually says “…you didn’t fail Kylo, Kylo failed you…I wont!” (as we end in a close-up of her face)

So no ‘moment of lightsaber madness’ needed, and I’m quite content to have Kylo’s nature and Snoke’s influence be the main object of Kylo’s ‘turn to the dark side’ for my version…which Luke could do nothing about at the time, except feel that he let Leia and Han down very badly.

Wow, such a small change that would drastically alter the movie. I think that’s an excellent call if it would improve things for you. Personally, I don’t mind the films version but I’d like to see yours too

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I recently read an EW article that gave us Mark Hamill’s own version of what happened to Luke before The Force Awakens.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/04/star-wars-mark-hamill-luke-skywalker-backstory/

According to Hamill, Luke Married a widow with a child, and withdrew from the force to raise the child. Apparently, the child dies tragically because it gets hold of his lighsaber and kills itself.

To my mind, this is a satisfying backstory. Luke gets a happily ever after moment, but (as usually happens to Luke,) there is a tragedy beyond his control. This could probably be hinted at in the TFA forceback scene.

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Jackpumpkinhead said:

My biggest beef with the movie was there was no time to breathe. The pacing was at break-neck speed. I’m hoping some of the deleted scenes will have some nice establishing shots that we can pull frim

TavorX said:

It’s so odd to say it, but AOTC sold me on Star Warsy gambling hub; TLJ’s casino was like we took a time machine to the 1920’s and dropped aliens into it.
Also, I would LOVE to see someone fanedit podracers into the scene where the initial space horses are revealed.

Your one of those…

After seeing the film for the 8th time (movie pass) I have to agree that the main problem is the lack of breathing time the film gets.

The perfect example is when Luke and Rey throw down, which cuts to the falcon flying off, three seconds of Luke looking up forlorn and then bam Yoda all up in my grill. It feels jarring. But viewed alone (it’s leaked on YouTube) the Yoda scene is my favourite in the film. This film is here man, it’s really good, it’s just edited so poorly.

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NeverarGreat said:

Snoke&mirrors said:

Either way the wiping the shoulder of dust doesn’t carry the tone.

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Touché sir. To be honest the scene is growing on me, I watched ROTJ yesterday and when I saw Luke do the two finger salute to R2D2 at the satlaac pit, I thought, you know what, it’s not all bad.

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I thought this movie was drek. After the disappointing rehash/reboot of TFA, I wasn’t expecting much, until the critics praised it through the roof and everyone I knew who had seen it said it was awesome maybe the best Star Wars yet… and it turns out about half the audience agrees with me (I just don’t know any of them personally, they’re all on the internet). I hope the negative reaction has an effect on the Disney franchise, because we don’t need more like this… eventually people will wake up and realize it’s junk and the franchise will sink back into oblivion due to this mismanagement.

I imagine the fanboys are so defensive right now in protecting the film, they’ll receive any fan edit as a personal insult, but give it time… and the rest of us will be interested to see what happens.

Anyway, I give all the credit in the world to any fan editor who is willing to spend the time to try to save this disaster of a “Star Wars” episode. If it were me, I’d start by trying to make one film out of Episode 7 & 8 (they’re intended to be right after the other, after all), and splice in where appropriate the deleted scenes (I presume we’ll get some for the latter when TLJ comes to video).

Not sure what I’d fix, other than remove so many of the bad jokes. Not sure what can be done about the continuity gaffes and just overall badness, but then I thought nothing could be done about the prequels and people proved me wrong…

In any case, MTFBWY

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I’d like to somehow extend the final shot of the Yoda scene to allow a few seconds more for the score to wind down and let it all sink in before being jerked back to Finn and Rose.

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Bingowings said:

I’d have Leia die in the bridge explosion and remove her from the rest of the film. I’d remove Yoda. I’d have Luke burn the tree. Sensing Leia’s death would prompt Luke to confront Ren.

That’s dark, man.

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Bingowings said:

I’d have Leia die in the bridge explosion and remove her from the rest of the film. I’d remove Yoda. I’d have Luke burn the tree. Sensing Leia’s death would prompt Luke to confront Ren.

I like the idea, but that way you’d lose the beautiful shot of the Crait big ass door closing behind her, or her scene with Luke. And have 2 older characters killed in the same movie could be a bit overkill, but oh well.

you guys did it! thank you guys so much! 😄

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NeverarGreat said:

Yeah, the biggest problem with this film is lack of breathing room.

I call this MBHD - modern blockbuster hyperactive disorder. Movies that don’t give the audience a break to let them digest the non-stop action or emotion that is being thrown at them. It’s honestly my biggest issue with TLJ.

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Humby said:

NeverarGreat said:

Yeah, the biggest problem with this film is lack of breathing room.

I call this MBHD - modern blockbuster hyperactive disorder. Movies that don’t give the audience a break to let them digest the non-stop action or emotion that is being thrown at them. It’s honestly my biggest issue with TLJ.

TFA is almost worse in that regard.

you guys did it! thank you guys so much! 😄

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Hal 9000 said:

I’d like to somehow extend the final shot of the Yoda scene to allow a few seconds more for the score to wind down and let it all sink in before being jerked back to Finn and Rose.

My idea is to put it right after Kylo declares himself the Emperor. This means that after the Yoda scene we would transition to Crait. I think that would help the Yoda scene feel more in place. We hit the low point in the movie, and that’s when we get Yoda’s speech about failure. And then it is followed with the rest of our characters rising up to the mantle, especially Luke.

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darthrush said:

Hal 9000 said:

I’d like to somehow extend the final shot of the Yoda scene to allow a few seconds more for the score to wind down and let it all sink in before being jerked back to Finn and Rose.

My idea is to put it right after Kylo declares himself the Emperor. This means that after the Yoda scene we would transition to Crait. I think that would help the Yoda scene feel more in place. We hit the low point in the movie, and that’s when we get Yoda’s speech about failure. And then it is followed with the rest of our characters rising up to the mantle, especially Luke.

This sounds very intriguing. It might slightly foreshadow Luke’s entrance too on the nose but I think it’ll allow the scene to breath better