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Right. And some of the early script drafts and McQuarrie sketches predating the fourth draft suggest Lucas was even thinking of having onscreen nudity like in THX 1138.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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ATMachine said:

Right. And some of the early script drafts and McQuarrie sketches predating the fourth draft suggest Lucas was even thinking of having onscreen nudity like in THX 1138.

You said that already, and there’s no proof! The only evidence you have is some very rough sketches, and drawings like that always show figures as being nude so that drawing clothes over them can be easier. There’s no evidence beyond that, so I’m inclined to think it was never intended.

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Slavicuss said:

I only asked about the cut Walrus Man decapitation scene because the severed arm gif reminded me of some pics I found online.

It appears the film’s violence was originally stronger, before being toned down to appeal to a family audience.

Actually, it was the reverse. Lucas intended the movie as a relatively light, family friendly film, but added the scenes of the burning homestead and Walrus Man’s death in order to secure a PG rating. On set of the movie, they filmed the severed arm shot, but it didn’t look right. They experimented with having Ben cut his head off, before deciding to just reshoot the severed arm.

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“You can make this picture for teenagers, late teenagers, early twenties, or you play it for kids, and that’s what we’re going for, eight- and nine-year-olds. This is a Disney picture.”

  • George Lucas, quoted in Dale Pollock’s Skywalking

Sounds to me like GL considered more than one audience for which to tailor the film. But I’m sure this won’t do anything to convince you that SW wasn’t always intended as a “Disney picture” from the get-go.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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ATMachine said:

“You can make this picture for teenagers, late teenagers, early twenties, or you play it for kids, and that’s what we’re going for, eight- and nine-year-olds. This is a Disney picture.”

  • George Lucas, quoted in Dale Pollock’s Skywalking

Sounds to me like GL considered more than one audience for which to tailor the film. But I’m sure this won’t do anything to convince you that SW wasn’t always intended as a “Disney picture” from the get-go.

It won’t, because there’s nothing in that quote to convince me that he ever intended it for a different target audience. He was heavily inspired by the old adventure serials of his childhood, and that’s the feel he was going for. I’m not saying it’s just a dumb Disney movie, there’s still plenty of stuff for adults to enjoy, but it was mostly intended for a family audience.

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StarkillerAG said:

Slavicuss said:

I only asked about the cut Walrus Man decapitation scene because the severed arm gif reminded me of some pics I found online.

It appears the film’s violence was originally stronger, before being toned down to appeal to a family audience.

Actually, it was the reverse. Lucas intended the movie as a relatively light, family friendly film, but added the scenes of the burning homestead and Walrus Man’s death in order to secure a PG rating. On set of the movie, they filmed the severed arm shot, but it didn’t look right. They experimented with having Ben cut his head off, before deciding to just reshoot the severed arm.

The original severed arm? Would that be the weird, cup/bowl-like hand, instead of the hairy paw that’s in the final film? I think I saw footage of the original version somewhere, or maybe it was a b/w pic?

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Slavicuss said:

StarkillerAG said:

Slavicuss said:

I only asked about the cut Walrus Man decapitation scene because the severed arm gif reminded me of some pics I found online.

It appears the film’s violence was originally stronger, before being toned down to appeal to a family audience.

Actually, it was the reverse. Lucas intended the movie as a relatively light, family friendly film, but added the scenes of the burning homestead and Walrus Man’s death in order to secure a PG rating. On set of the movie, they filmed the severed arm shot, but it didn’t look right. They experimented with having Ben cut his head off, before deciding to just reshoot the severed arm.

The original severed arm? Would that be the weird, cup/bowl-like hand, instead of the hairy paw that’s in the final film? I think I saw footage of the original version somewhere, or maybe it was a b/w pic?

Yep, that one. You can see black-and-white footage of it in the Lost Cut version of the scene, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8sD6-u7g2Y&t=135

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How is Star Wars being originally intended for children up for debate?

“The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.” - DV

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I’m sure George’s ideas about Star Wars changed many times as he was making it over the years. How could they not? My own ideas about Star Wars have changed many times too. People make Star Wars their own, and in my opinion it’s that aspect that makes it suitable for absolutely anyone, regardless of intentions.

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sade1212 said:

Either those bonus discs are going to be a real waste of storage space, or we’re getting a considerable amount of bonus content for the OT and PT that wasn’t on the complete Bluray set, which had just three bonus discs for the six films. The ST stuff will just be the same stuff that came with their recent Bluray releases, I imagine.

I didn’t look too deep into the Blu-Ray bonus features, but the one feature I did watch about Star Wars parodies turned out to be a lazy compilation of Star Wars references in sitcoms and whatnot, the likes of which one could easily find on YouTube and is not worth my time. Clearly they were stretching it thin already, so what more could they possibly have to add? The only things I can think of are the ones we’re probably never gonna get (unaltered OT and TRoS deleted scenes).