Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread * — Page 2

EyeShotFirst said:

I think anything set in the Star Wars universe could be entertaining if done right. Bounty hunters, smugglers, pilots, soldiers, mercs, cantina bartenders, and so on and so forth could make for a hell of an interesting film. Hell, you could do a real gritty film about civilian life during the Imperial takeover and it would be just as interesting.

Indeed. There's more to the Star Wars universe than Star Wars movies. After all, Thor is set in the same universe as Iron Man but isn't an Iron Man movie.

I can't recall a single scene of someone using heated metal to remove the creases from an item of clothing in the whole shared universe thing.

Maybe Tony Stark should be called Never Knowingly Seen Using an Iron Man instead.

I don't see why they wouldn't have Vader in this. He was after the plans so maybe he could have something to do with them being stolen in the first place.

As previously posted, the force isn't a big part of ANH, and at this point Vader is just a general giving orders etc. They could still have Vader and not turn it into some twirly lightsaber fest. He could just be an all evil tyrant. Bring it.

I wonder what the characters' perspective on the larger galaxy will be. Who do they hate most: Vader, Tarkin, or The Emperor?

I think Gareth Edwards will do a good job of this I like both Monsters and Godzilla and I think he could possibly serve up something very satisfying.

Vader is bound to be in this... as the link between Star Wars and Rogue one.

Just a thought though would Rogue one be called Rogue Leader as a call sign?

Maybe it's one as in the first of the Rogue pilots.

Rogue Squadron seems to come into being after Yavin.

yes perhaps Rogue Squadron does not even exist at this time good point.

team_negative1 said:

Taking out the things that make Star Wars what it is, is self-defeating, and does not really serve any purpose.

Team Negative1

 I agree to some extent, but this is a spin-off film. Were it part of the main saga, I wouldn't want it to be without Jedi, nor would I want a film as dark as they seem to be planning. But this is its own thing, and I would love to see a greater variety of genres, set in the same universe, but with different stories to tell, in different ways. We can have all sorts of genres set on earth: dramas, westerns, comedies, action, etc., all realistic in their portrayal of life on earth. I want to see the same variety in the Star Wars universe, as long as the main saga sticks with the genre of the OT, and doesn't decide to be different like the prequels were.

Look at it this way.

There were numerous episodes of the radio series, issues of the early Marvel comics etc where not a single Force user appeared.

They still felt like Star Wars though.

In many ways the Jedi are more conspicuous by their absence and true to their initial description by Ben, in the premise of this film, than they actually were in person during the whole of the PT.

The lack of Jedi is the reason why the Rebels need to try fight even harder against the seemingly undefeatable Empire.

towne32 said:

Handman said:

team_negative1 said:

Taking out the things that make Star Wars what it is, is self-defeating, and does not really serve any purpose.

Team Negative1

 Does the entire team share that sentiment? I'm confused who's talking here.

 Frink is working up the analysis based on how many times the enter key was pressed.

 CSI: OT.com

Bingowings said:

In many ways the Jedi are more conspicuous by their absence and true to their initial description by Ben, in the premise of this film, than they actually were in person during the whole of the PT.

The lack of Jedi is the reason why the Rebels need to try fight even harder against the seemingly undefeatable Empire.

So if Ben was supposedly the last Jedi (not counting Vader), why did the general tell his X-wing pilots before the attack on the Death Star, "May the force be with you"? He must have been an adherent/believer. Was it a vaguely-recognized (and ancient) religion, but with no surviving monks? Or were they simply in hiding during the "dark times"?

Or it's like an atheist saying "God bless you" after a sneeze...it's just reflexive.

I'm sure this new film will adhere to the general spirit of Star Wars. I am hoping that these anthology films might be a sort of 'back door' to replacing the PT in a way.

TV's Frink said:

Or it's like an atheist saying "God bless you" after a sneeze...it's just reflexive.

Or an agnostic. =P 

It's like there not being any Kohens left but the synagogue still prays for the tetragrammaton to bless their enterprise.

The Force was George's in universe interpretation of a deity, a holy or unholy power.

You can believe in the Force and evoke it's concept without being trained in the ways of summoning it for use.

I'm pretty excited about what they could do with this. Every other studio seems to be focused on reboots and rehashes of old story lines with their tent pole franchises to exploit nostalgia. I think that's a big mistake and audiences will eventually grow tired of it.

What annoyed me about the EU was so much of it revolved around the original cast or their kids. It made the universe feel small.

Fox has been doing pretty much the same thing with X-men. They have a huge volume of rich characters and story lines to pull from, yet all but one movie has been centered on Wolverine.

Marvel/Disney are doing it right by expanding their universe beyond the typical super hero movie to appeal to different audiences and not bore their current fans. I have no doubt Disney wants to do the same with Star Wars.

woofermazing said:

What annoyed me about the EU was so much of it revolved around the original cast or their kids. It made the universe feel small.

Fox has been doing pretty much the same thing with X-men. They have a huge volume of rich characters and story lines to pull from, yet all but one movie has been centered on Wolverine.

A question was asked about this during the "What is canon" panel at Celebration (hosted by Leland Chee and Pablo Hidalgo).

Essentially, 'what needs to happen to avoid a big mass of story for the central characters' that was unreasonable - i.e., there are only so many iconic events or enemies one character could reasonably face. Luke wouldn't save the galaxy every other week for 35 years.

Response: story group are very carefully considering this for all characters.

^Predictable non-answer.

With all the poor ideas that have already popped up within the nuEU, it's obvious the "Canon Story Group" has no better a grasp on quality control or restraint than their predecessors did. A few years down the line, and the "canon" timeline will become as bloated and unwieldy as the timeline of the old EU was.