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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!) — Page 26

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I wish I had any advice whatsoever to give, and I’m really sorry to hear about expensive coasters being made. 😦

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Same as Ash, I used tsmuxer and then imgburn. I don’t really mind making coasters but I really wish I could burn them to watch them in my movie room.

"This cannot be! Is... Is it an omen?"

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I gave up on burning blu rays long ago as I found it to be too difficult to configure. In my opinion it’s better to just buy a large-sized USB and plug it into a blu ray player. I have one that I use for Star Wars edits and Hal’s films have great picture quality and play well that way.

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Kodi system guys. It ca be useful for many other things (like photo-video storage).

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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jarbear said:

What program do you guys use? I personally use DVD fab (paid) and they burn smoothly.

What program do we use to burn to disc? I use ImgBurn.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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There’s going to be a V6! The impetus for this is the presence, to whatever figurative or literal degree, of Palpatine in Episode IX. Whether he’s found a way to ‘cheat death’ or it’s just a mirage, I think its worth including a bit of dialogue that hints at his interest in immortality in Episode III.

Changes for V6, planned and under consideration:

  • Reinstate “to create life” and “to cheat death…”

  • Move ‘plot to destroy the Jedi’ deleted scene to before Anakin coming in after missing a briefing

  • See about augmenting or removing Chewbacca

  • See about removing the droids from the birth of the twins

  • Consider reinstating Palpatine prompting Anakin to kill Dooku (still shortened; no “dew it”) (LOE, perhaps even moreso than ROTS, has a throughline of Palpatine manipulating Anakin and him suggesting Anakin kill Dooku is in keeping with this)

  • Really try to reincorporate some Yoda lines about failure, maybe even dialogue from Rebels

In order to do anything further about Chewbacca, I would need some visual FX help. It had been determined previously that it would be extremely difficult to remove his bandolier. I wonder if a second bandolier could be added, to imply its a different wookiee. Most of Chewbacca’s shots have been removed, though a few remain. Luckily (?) his face looks nothing like the Chewbacca of the OT and ST.

This one should be much easier, but I would love to have someone assist by removing R2 and 3PO from the birthing of the twins (and shot of them leaving the ship to follow Padme to the medical center). This would avoid R2 and Yoda’s only onscreen meeting before ESB.

I will attempt what I can to extend the scene with Yoda and Qui-Gon, but there’s really only one shot to work with. If anything else can be contrived visually to extend the scene plausibly, I would welcome ideas or FX shots. (Rear shot of Yoda with asteroids floating in the background?)
The dialogue for the scene could go something like this:

Y: “Failed, I have.”

Q: “Yoda, my old friend… Do you feel responsible? Forgive yourself.”

Y: [Dialogue about him being too blind to see things or that he failed the Jedi.]

Q: “Come to Dagobah. You must complete what I could not.”

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Sound very promising, as usual!

"This cannot be! Is... Is it an omen?"

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V6!
Only for LOE I’m guessing?

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I look froward to version 6.

As for chewbacca, my mind thinks too that adding another bandolier or something may be easier than removing it? Granted, I have no skill with VFX.

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Good luck… again 😄

I won’t suggest anything to put back this time 😉

edit: oh man I just realized that my alternate tracks won’t be aligned anymore 😕 will you let me know how to adjust those easily with the new timestamp ? Thanks in advance ! 😃

edit2: in case of more EpIX surprises, maybe you should consider making two versions of the ending: the LoE one, and the Padmé dies one, since we may not know what could be canon with EpIX if JJ wishes to really put an end to all 3 trilogies.

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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Yes, it’s just LOE that’s getting this update. There’s not really anything I want to do with the others. There’s a few trivial things with COD but nothing warranting all that work.

And Mala, I will export lossless audio just like I did before, so it shouldn’t be an inordinate amount of work for you if you’d like to update your audio mixes. And feel free to suggest anything! Certainly no harm in that; it doesn’t annoy me or anything.

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Hey Hal, really looking forward for V6!

I was also just wondering if you were to do a V6 for COD what would you change?

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There’s a few things I half want to change but wouldn’t actually change if I had it to do again.
What I would do differently might be to keep Jar Jar sticking his tongue out in Watto’s shop and Qui-Gon catching his tongue at dinner. I wonder about the “it’s working, it’s working” scene, but reinstating it without the scene right beforehand (awful kids) and afterward (midichlorians) is inelegant.

I guess I’m nostalgic for TPM and should just watch it once in a while, even though COD as an edit is what it should be.

LOE is getting this treatment because of the Palpatine impetus and there being a few things I’d like to try to do better while I’m at it. I hope others can assist by providing some visual tweaks.

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^ Thanks! I’d actually already reached out to him to ask about a few other of his mockups. He said he’s enjoyed my edits, and I encouraged him to provide anything he’d like to see used like those, addressing continuity and things like changing Bail’s summons to a Senate hearing into an audio transmission.

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Hal 9000 said:

There’s going to be a V6! The impetus for this is the presence, to whatever figurative or literal degree, of Palpatine in Episode IX. Whether he’s found a way to ‘cheat death’ or it’s just a mirage, I think its worth including a bit of dialogue that hints at his interest in immortality in Episode III.

Changes for V6, planned and under consideration:

  • Reinstate “to create life” and “to cheat death…”

  • Move ‘plot to destroy the Jedi’ deleted scene to before Anakin coming in after missing a briefing

  • See about augmenting or removing Chewbacca

  • See about removing the droids from the birth of the twins

  • Consider reinstating Palpatine prompting Anakin to kill Dooku (still shortened; no “dew it”) (LOE, perhaps even moreso than ROTS, has a throughline of Palpatine manipulating Anakin and him suggesting Anakin kill Dooku is in keeping with this)

  • Really try to reincorporate some Yoda lines about failure, maybe even dialogue from Rebels

In order to do anything further about Chewbacca, I would need some visual FX help. It had been determined previously that it would be extremely difficult to remove his bandolier. I wonder if a second bandolier could be added, to imply its a different wookiee. Most of Chewbacca’s shots have been removed, though a few remain. Luckily (?) his face looks nothing like the Chewbacca of the OT and ST.

This one should be much easier, but I would love to have someone assist by removing R2 and 3PO from the birthing of the twins (and shot of them leaving the ship to follow Padme to the medical center). This would avoid R2 and Yoda’s only onscreen meeting before ESB.

I will attempt what I can to extend the scene with Yoda and Qui-Gon, but there’s really only one shot to work with. If anything else can be contrived visually to extend the scene plausibly, I would welcome ideas or FX shots. (Rear shot of Yoda with asteroids floating in the background?)
The dialogue for the scene could go something like this:

Y: “Failed, I have.”

Q: “Yoda, my old friend… Do you feel responsible? Forgive yourself.”

Y: [Dialogue about him being too blind to see things or that he failed the Jedi.]

Q: “Come to Dagobah. You must complete what I could not.”

It sounds like a cool update, but wouldn’t it be best to start work on it after The Rise of Skywalker is released. We still don’t know exactly what Palpatine’s role in IX will be yet.

Noah Lawson

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I’d like to make these changes regardless, since Palpatine’s comments would resonate thematically if not literally. But I will keep things around until 9 comes up just in case it prompts anything else important.
Who knows? It might not be finished by then anyhow.

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Oh, boy. I started this project with FCP7 and I’m going to finish it. The old project files are a complicated maze of nested sequences, and the program can hardly do anything at all with them without crashing. But, I did the equivalent of propping up the foundation while the building burns down and was able to copy the essentials and paste them into a new project. I’ll be starting V6 with the lossless audio output from V5, which shouldn’t result in any meaningful loss.

For each change I do, I will write down the timecode of a marker after the change point. Then, make the actual change. Then, calculate the number of frames I will need to shift the subtitles and commentary track, doing so after each change. I set up a project management thing to track all of this for the changes I intend to make. I have two very small children at home and have a great deal on my plate in life. It will be cumbersome. It will be slowgoing. It will not be worth it. But it’ll be worth it. Wait…

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Fanediting is the path to the dark side. Fanediting leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

That’s exactly why I told you I won’t be making any suggestions, since I assumed the small tweaks you wanted to make were gonna be highly painful 😄

(besides, I would only do the same suggestions I made for v5, i.e. to retain more Padmé-Anakin scenes 😉)

By the way, it could be a good opportunity to fix something I haven’t told you about which I found out when making my alternate tracks: the march on the Jedi temple has a video misalignement where you can see a thin white line on top of the image. It’s very small, but I noticed this at some point when watching the sequence over and over again.

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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Thank you, Mala! You’ve been a source of encouragement throughout.
Just looking forward to sitting down with some friends and family sometime next gear and watching the complete set of 1 through 9 (over multiple nights).

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MalàStrana said:

By the way, it could be a good opportunity to fix something I haven’t told you about which I found out when making my alternate tracks: the march on the Jedi temple has a video misalignement where you can see a thin white line on top of the image. It’s very small, but I noticed this at some point when watching the sequence over and over again.

I don’t see anything in this sequence after taking a look. Could you post a screencap of the issue? Is it with one specific encode?

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After taking greater inventory of things, here’s my plan for V6 at present. I welcome feedback!

  • Move ‘plot to destroy the Jedi’ to before Anakin coming in after briefing

  • If he agrees, I’d love to use Siliconmaster482’s audio for Padme’s Ruminations, and his version of R2 versus the super battle droid (which removes the electric shock)

  • I could add some Force-choke neck cracking sounds as Anakin chokes Padme out. ROTS clearly establishes she’s all right, so that her death can be completely for psychological/emotional reasons. These sounds could help sell that she is seriously injured and could die from complications later on.

  • I will attempt, and see what I think about, adding the interior long shot of the massacre in the Jedi Temple and a closeup shot of Anakin’s face

  • I will attempt to use DominicCobb’s idea to remove lines “along with all the senators” and “the council’s next move will be against the senate” to help us track with Anakin’s inner thought life as well as a sane person could

  • Put back in the tiny snippet of Grievous laughing and coughing (once) while his escape pod flees at the beginning, partly to remove the awkward “the music budget ran out” moment

  • Angel has agreed to see about replacing Bail Organa being summoned via viewscreen to a Senate session with an audio-only version

  • This is less important, but Angel may provide an empty dashboard to replace Bail’s hologram as Obi-Wan reaches out via Grievous’s ship

  • Angel may provide a version of the Vader mask being placed on Anakin with the mouthpiece in the ‘right’ place (harmonica style)

  • I will play around with reinstating Boga’s introduction

  • Reinstate line “he’s too dangerous to be left alive” from Windu

  • If Mala is cool with it, borrow his audio for Anakin being appointed to the council, using an eerie Imerial March rather than Anakin rambling

  • Reinstate dialogue from Anakin: “The Jedi turned against me; don’t you turn against me.” Rational thoughts? No, but it tracks with his character at that point. (Anakin’s a strong contender for Borderline Personality Disorder.)

  • Due to the thematic, if not more, relevance for Episode IX, reinstate Palpatine’s lines, “…to create life…” and “To cheat death is a power only once has achieved, but… I know we can discover the secret.”

  • I would love to be able to augment Chewbacca’s appearance, perhaps by recoloring his fur to grey

  • Reinstate air traffic tower collapse in full as Grievous’s ship comes to a stop on the landing strip

  • I would love to see R2 and 3PO removed from the birth of the twins

  • I will probably reincorporate Palpatine suggesting Anakin kill Dooku, though with no hesitation or “dew it”

  • I will probably include a truncated scene of Anakin and Padme on the balcony at night after all

  • I will probably include a truncated scene of Anakin and Padme in her apartment where Anakin becomes suspicious of Obi-Wan and expresses his disorientation (no nightmare talk, though) (scene placed immediately after the third ‘seeds of rebellion’ scene)

  • It is looking very doubtful that the Yoda/Qui-Gon scene can be extended or improved upon, though I regret not being able to feature more explicit feelings of failure from Yoda, given his appearance in TLJ.

This will probably not be done soon, but I am taking a modular approach so that I can pick things up whenever I can and make progress.

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Hal 9000 said:

MalàStrana said:

By the way, it could be a good opportunity to fix something I haven’t told you about which I found out when making my alternate tracks: the march on the Jedi temple has a video misalignement where you can see a thin white line on top of the image. It’s very small, but I noticed this at some point when watching the sequence over and over again.

I don’t see anything in this sequence after taking a look. Could you post a screencap of the issue? Is it with one specific encode?

Here is the issue : https://imgur.com/a/XsgSxWF

On the top area there is a white line running along the top black bar (see the red circle). It’s not obvious on the cap, but if you play the scene you might see it.

Great change list for v6 ! And of course you can use anything you wish from the alternate track 😉 This specific change requires the replacement of all 5 channels.

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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Wow, that glitch is very subtle. But I’ll make sure its taken care of.

Glad you’re pleased with the changelist. 😃

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