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Star Wars (1977) - a general Random Thoughts thread — Page 4

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I like how “Governor Moff Tarkin” treats “Moff” as Tarkin’s first name.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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And Obi-Wan and Darth Vader are listed under “teams”. Because as we all know, they were best friends in that movie. 😉

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I wonder what the Star Wars franchise would have became if the idea of Vader being Luke’s father never happened.

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I watched Star Wars with my family the other night and was reminded of something: as Luke, Leia and Han are celebrating and are interrupted by the recovery of an extremely battle-scarred R2 as well as a distressed C-3PO, obviously they stop screaming but - pretty much - Luke just says “He’ll be alright” and they move on VERY quickly. I don’t see much room for doing it another way myself, but I feel like 3PO could have used a bit of emotional support there! It almost spoiled the ending for me this time round.

I suppose it’s the curse of happy endings that many inevitably feel contrived or forced. Still my favourite Star Wars film though.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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Oh no. 😦

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Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:
(They misspelled Wookiee!)

Wookie was probably more common than Wookiee everywhere back then.

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I wonder how many Rebel pilots followed Biggs’ plan of attending the imperial academy and then defecting to the alliance? Sounds like Luke was planning on doing the same, is it a common? Surely the empire had measures in place to mitigate this?

I bet you have

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I wonder what the original implied incident behind Vader saying, “you should not have come back,” was.

I’m just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.

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TK MAXX-421 said:

I wonder how many Rebel pilots followed Biggs’ plan of attending the imperial academy and then defecting to the alliance? Sounds like Luke was planning on doing the same, is it a common? Surely the empire had measures in place to mitigate this?

Based on the dialogue of that scene, the academy is in some ways a separate entity from the actual Imperial army, given Biggs says that one becomes eligible for being drafted after completing the academy course.

The radio drama also has Biggs saying that a friend of his from the academy was suspected for Rebel sympathies and died in interrogation. Sounds like at least in Legends they made mention of some pretty severe measures in place to curb desertion, although our known canon defectors (Hobbie, Biggs, Wedge, and Bodhi) also seem to have had a tough time.

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In my most recent marathoning of the Star Wars movies, I’ve come to the conclusion that besides the lightsaber fight this movie is perfect. Just saying this because I’ve been somewhat critical in the past, I’ve always known it’s a great movie but I didn’t like it as much as ESB or ROTJ. But now I’ve come to realize that this movie is basically perfect and retract any criticism I’ve ever made of it.

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The Vader vs Obi Wan duel in Star Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8oM4hXA58 - at 2 minutes and 28 seconds

What was Vader expecting to find when he was stepping on Obi Wan’s cloak after he had struck Kenobi down?
 

Some pocket sand? A hole in the floor where Obi Wan had disappeared down? A note with the message “look behind you, the Rebels, the Princess and the two familiar droids are escaping, and you’re still standing here stomping on my cloak”?

Or something else?

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Marooned Biker Scout said:

What was Vader expecting to find when he was stepping on Obi Wan’s cloak after he had struck Kenobi down?
 

Some pocket sand? A hole in the floor where Obi Wan had disappeared down? A note with the message “look behind you, the Rebels, the Princess and the two familiar droids are escaping, and you’re still standing here stomping on my cloak”?

Or something else?

All joking aside, Vader was probably just perplexed that his mortal enemy vanished for no apparent reason just when he was about to kill him.

Actually, I never thought about this until now, but that might be part of the reason why Lucas retconned it so that Obi-Wan was the first Jedi to vanish after dying. If it was a normal thing for Jedi, there would be no reason why Vader was so perplexed.

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Now I’m imagining that when Anakin and Obi-wan were fighting together in the Clone Wars, Obi-wan would continually pull magic tricks to bamboozle Anakin and remind him he still had much to learn. Perhaps this is why Vader is adamant that he is the master now, only to have Obi-wan pull one last trick.

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Always hated this moment in the film. The robe’s obviously empty; what’s he expect to learn stepping on it?

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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timdiggerm said:

Maybe he thought Obi-wan had learned the power of shrinking

Obi-Ant Man Kenobi!
 

Maybe Vader thought Kenobi had tried spinning just before striking him down? Vader does believe that to be a good trick!

The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.

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timdiggerm said:

Emre1601 said:

timdiggerm said:

Maybe he thought Obi-wan had learned the power of shrinking

Obi-Ant Man Kenobi!
 

Maybe Vader thought Kenobi had tried spinning just before striking him down? Vader does believe that to be a good trick!

He definitely already knew that

Ha! Obi-Wan was just mocking Vader with that “move” all this time.

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Ugh. Another moment I hate.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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Obi-Wan should have left a whoopee cushion in his cloak for Vader to step on, just to troll him one last time.

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Marooned Biker Scout said:

Obi-Wan should have left a whoopee cushion in his cloak for Vader to step on, just to troll him one last time.

With some sand in it!

 
 

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Nor do I! Poor guy. Or clone. Or robot or monster or whatever he was meant to be at the time.

The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.