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I got some requests: Give chewie a flippin medal!
And if you think it's possible, clean up the shot used in deleted magic where han bites the medal, it's kinda funny, fits his character well, and ends the film on an even cheerier note.
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I've wondered about the Jabba scene for a while now...
I certainly understand why Lucas wants it in the picture (looking at it from a saga stand point).
But I've heard good arguements as to why it shouldn't be there (redundant, screws up falcons introduction)
I've also wondered if Lucas hadn't made a special edition until, let's say, next year, would he have included this scene in the film? or would he have just put it in the deleted scenes section?
Back when the special editions hit theaters, we didn't really have any kind of media to show off deleted scenes-...heck, deleted scenes weren't wildly known about by the general audience...
Just thinkin' out loud...

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I'm seriously considering scrapping the Jabba scene. Han stepping over Jabba's tail and Boba Fett looking straight in the camera just ruins the whole scene for me. Surely Jabba would have had Han killed for doing something like that. After all, he's supposed to be an evil gangster. Unless i can perform miracles with editing the scene, it won't be in my version, unless i keep it as a deleted scene.

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I've always hated the dice too.

I think having a hologram projected from the ball in the center of the table is a geat idea.

I would like to see all new death star trench schematics for that scene. Something that fits better with the whole saga.

Once again, holograms above the dish they are watching in the war room would be great.

And of course, a friggin' medal for chewie already. Although I don't konw how you would make it look like Leia is giving it to him.

Great ideas SSWR!
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SomethingStarWarsRelated, keep 'em coming. Always look forward to your ideas. I'll can answer all these ones. i'll go through your ideas in picture order.

1: The dice: This is one thing that has never bothered me, in fact i quite like the fact that Han has dice hanging up. Maybe its cuz i grewup in the '70's but i want to keep them in. In fact i was thinking about adding them all the other shots that they have disappeared.

2: Hologram: Actually this scene is already in the pipeline, but slightly extended, and with a different character as the hologram...need i say more

3: Death Star schematics: You've hit it pretty close to what i will be doing here. The plans will be enhanced and will now be a hologram instead of the plain projection. It should in better with the rest of the saga cuz any plans in the other films are holograms.

4: Ramp: Yeh, not much i can do with that... or can i....

5 & 6: Rebel Battle room: If I can pull it off then then there will be better schematics and holograms, similar to the hologram overview in the battle of geonosis in AOTC


7 & 9: Death Star surface model: Yeh, that does look pretty crappy and kinda amateurish comparted to the rest of the effects. I'll see what i can do.

8 & 10: Explosions: these will be enhanced and, maybe in a couple of cases, will be newly composited explosion effects

11: Bad blue screen: Already fixed

12: R2 hit: It has been enhanced, but i'm still tweaking it

13: Hero's reunite: Not too sure about this one. Maybe adding some more background noise of celebrations, but not too sure if it needs any music. I think its pretty much better not to have any music after the Death Star explodes and that way the Throne room theme becomes more memorable when it kicks in.
Originally posted by: Rebel11_38

And of course, a friggin' medal for chewie already. Although I don't konw how you would make it look like Leia is giving it to him.


She can always give it to him when off camera as R2 rolls in

14: Chewie: yes, Chewie WILL be getting his medal. It only took 30 years, but he will now finally have one.

I'll be posting a few more screenshots in the next few days of a few things that have been fixed or tweaked and these shots will have the new colour correction applied because that part of the edit is a few shots away from being complete.

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This is turning into an amazing project! Can't wait!


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Thanks, adywan! *I* always look forward to *your* response!

1: The dice: Well, it won't kill me to keep them...but adding them into the rest of the movie? Not sure how that would work...hmm

2: Hologram: Sweet! Who? How? When?

7 & 9: Death Star surface model: Yes, do what you can please! I remember seeing those shots in the SE and thinking "why didn't they replace those toys?"

13: Hero's reunite: I agree with your line of thinking on the music. But, yes, I would try more crowd fx...

"I'll be posting a few more screenshots in the next few days of a few things that have been fixed or tweaked and these shots will have the new colour correction applied because that part of the edit is a few shots away from being complete. "

Don't forget to post at least one video clip!

Thanks again!

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4. What is the problem with the ramp anyway? I see it as being there for not just R2 units but also for the various vehicles in the hangar that can't traverse stairs.

7, 9. I wonder, would the death star surface shots be improved if the image got a trapezoidal transform (drag it out sideways closer to the bottom) to give it more depth?
Also, how about speeding these shots up to convey a greater sense of speed?

13. They are in the middle of a hangar. There should be ships landing and rebels working everywhere in there, so mechanical sounds and cheers could come from many directions.
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4. What is the problem with the ramp anyway? I see it as being there for not just R2 units but also for the various vehicles in the hangar that can't traverse stairs.
----I'm not saying it should be gone all together, but, if you look closely, it looks as though they added this ramp late in the game...it just sits there on top of the staris...usually stairs and ramps are more...um...cemented together?

7, 9. I wonder, would the death star surface shots be improved if the image got a trapezoidal transform (drag it out sideways closer to the bottom) to give it more depth?
Also, how about speeding these shots up to convey a greater sense of speed?
----Hmmm...it's worth a try...not sure if the shots will look correct sped up...

13. They are in the middle of a hangar. There should be ships landing and rebels working everywhere in there, so mechanical sounds and cheers could come from many directions.
----Hey, I like that idea! At least add another xwing landing in the background or something!

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I think the surface model shots could be greatly improved if they has some windows or lighting in the surface details. Or even a tiny trooper or a gunport or something to show some scale. Without the scale, the surface just looks like a model kit.
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I would stay away from speeding the surface shots up - miniature photography sped up tends to look LESS convincing, not more. I also would be surprised if distorting the frame will work, I think it's more likely that what you'll get is something that looks like it's had a fake perspective imposed on it. You might try faking a depth of field effect on the footage though. I think the big problem with it as it exists in the film is that it's mostly in sharp focus - it's obvious that it's all very close to the camera. Soften the focus a little as you move deeper into the BG on that footage, and I think you might improve it.
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Soften the focus a little as you move deeper into the BG on that footage, and I think you might improve it.


I'd disagree - wouldn't less depth of field make it look more like a model? I can't find a link, but there's this guy who takes photos of cities with a tilt-and-shift lens that dramatically lessens the depth of field, and if you don't know, you'd swear they were fantastically detailed but very small miniatures.

ETA: a bit like this:

http://static.flickr.com/54/106200014_1139911f15_m.jpg

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That example seems pretty harsh, like there's a sudden drop off in the focal range, although it could just be the small image playing tricks on me (cool looking shot though, please post if you find the link, Editous!). I'm thinking of something much much more subtle and also occurring more gradually. From that POV shot, I'm guessing we're supposed to be looking out over at least a couple hundred meters, to maybe a kilometer? While technically there wouldn't be in space, I think instinctively the brain is going to be expecting a bit of softening of the details the further away you look. I don't know though, almost anything done to the shot at this point I think is going to look faked in post. Regardless, it might be tricky...something like using a gradient to modify the effect of a soften filter, and then tracked to the diving motion of the shot?
You know, looking at it again, I think my biggest problem with that shot is actually the laser bolts. They're fairly hard-edged, and LOOK like seaprate elemets.
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Another suggestion I have, I planned on doing it myself eventually, but I figured I'd tell you, if you liked it you could do the work for me lol, but if not whatever... Anyway in an issue of SW Insider I saw a picture that really tied the prequels to the ot if you ask me, it was a shot from behind vader inside his little capsule thing, and I can't remember if it was a thought bubble or a picture displayed on the big screen, or a new screen inside the capsule, but thats not the point, the point is that what was displayed was a picture of Padme, to show that he is still thinking about her, makes more of an internal conflict in his character that you feel the entire time, rather than a coupla 180s. If you wanted to add it i figured it would be best when he has his helmet off and the dude walks in on him, anyway, think about it!
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Originally posted by: DarthBalls1138...behind vader inside his little capsule thing, and I can't remember if it was a thought bubble or a picture displayed on the big screen, or a new screen inside the capsule, but thats not the point, the point is that what was displayed was a picture of Padme...


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You mean like he's watching some old home movies?

"This is me playing with my bird on Naboo"
"This is me getting married"
"This is me choking my wife"

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I too recall this image. I think I might have seen it in one of the Episode III related books in my local bookshop ("Art of", "Visual Dictionary", etc). It could be a cool idea to implement to tie the two trilogies together, but it all depends on personal preference of the viewer. However, now that it's been brought up I would like to see someone tackle the idea to at least see if it's possible.

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Here is the image you may be referring to, as well as a couple of others that may inspire:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/Rebel11_38/VadersRemorse.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/Rebel11_38/vadersdream.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/Rebel11_38/home8bj.jpg
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So what's the deal with the last one?

"I still blame his dad for the death of my mum - execute both of them!!"

TBH these kind of changes scream of a touch of "Lucas" to be honest, toning down or over-explaining elements of the trilogy. Surely the idea should be that that Vader only really starts to turn after he has met his son? 20+ years have passed since Padme's death. Vader is supposedly feared throughout the galaxy. Making him 'human' and showing remorse for his actions too early takes away from his reaction at the end of Jedi.

Just my 2p worth.

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These type of additions really wouldn't fit into ANH. the only OT movie that anything like this would really fit in would be ROTJ. The conflict within Vader, as DVD-BOY pointed out, only begins AFTER he confronts his son. To show him even thinking about Padme would show a weeker side to vader and take away from his evil persona in eps 4 & 5.

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If you ever wanted to implement the idea, you can use some footage from Batman & Robin of Arnold getting all weepy infront of home movies in his ice fortress in a possible future edit of ESB. Just color correct Arnold from blue to pale white, add scars, replace the monitor images, and you can make it seem like Vader made a makeshift suite in the Rebel base on Hoth!

Just kidding by the way.

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Aren't you doing the whole saga? If you do Jedi would you consider putting it in their somewhere, like one of the many times Vader pauses and does nothing, extend it, overlay something like that and add some music as well, just a request.