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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 484

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Fullmetaled said:

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Omni said:

Fullmetaled, I receive updates on this thread as I’m very interested in updates from Ady and the edit. However, I’m not interested in your quest for HDR. Ady’s stated multiple times now that there won’t be an HDR grade. We have no idea what you’re talking about, or who you’re talking about, or what they said, or anything of the sorts. It doesn’t matter whether or not it can be done, all that matters is that it won’t be, and you’ve been told that several times by more than one person, again, including Adywan himself. Please stop derailing the thread.

Ah, but it is a useful discussion to understand what HDR really is. And yes, Andywan himself from his source files would be the only way to really get any useful HDR so if he has no interest (and I really don’t see the benefits since Star Wars was shot on film and is better suited to SDR due to the nature of most of the shots) then it is an academic conversation (at least on my part).

I believe that to an project like this and utilize the original HDR metadata, that your editing suite would have to import it that data, you edit the project and then it would have to generate new metadata (which I believe is encoded into the video) for the output. Similarly, if you are using something capable of it, you can have a project that was originally intended for SDR but output an HDR. It depends on the software what you need to do to achieve that, but I’ve seen several tutorial videos that show just how easy it can be (or hard in some cases, but still doable). But converting to HDR is far more than just copying the metadata.

So it doesn’t give you what was shown in theaters but better it’s more that it’s altering the picture with some films. I didn’t know that the way it was described it was get the colors that were in the actual film to be show on disc for the first time. now I’m hearing the opposite wow now I’m even more confused about what the purpose of hdr is.

Don’t confuse the level of colors and color space with color correction or color grading. Those are totally separate. I could get into a long winded explanation, but HDR does not magically make something look like it did in theaters. HDR is intended to take advantage of the higher dynamic range of modern TV’s and projectors that can deliver deeper blacks than SDR screen or film projection ever could. If you want to see what was shown in theaters, get the 4K77, 4K80, or 4K83 versions. Those are the most true to the original run and they are SDR. The Lucasfilm color grades have issues (the 2019 version less so than the 2011 version).

Prior to HDR, blacks were always grays. You cannot get true black when you use film pigments or LCD pixels to block out the light (and even less so on an old CRT). It will always be gray. HDR is for the OLED and laser projectors where the black is a complete absence of light. OLED screens have actual lighted pixel LED’s so when they are set to 0,0,0 black, they generate zero light. The same with the laser projectors. For pixels set to 0,0,0 black, they project no light for that pixel. So HDR’s real power is in showing those darker details. That can make a night scene pop in a dark theater by adding levels of darkness never before experienced. It also has more color depth so the color gradients are smoother with less possibility of noticeable color halos. When you add in compression, HDR will not show the same compression artifacts so the image will be closer to the original uncompressed image. HDR does not magically make a movie closer to the original. You have to know where its strengths are and edit accordingly. From what I’ve seen of how Star War has been delivered in HDR, the SDR masters have been faithfully converted, but there is not much difference between the 4k HDR and the HD SDR versions. If anything, OTEEDEE’s D+ version looks better and it is SDR. HDR is just a tool to take advantage of new tech and where applicable make older movies look their best, though few can truly take advantage unless the negatives are scanned in HDR and any flaws edited out.

So your saying in the case of the original trilogy hdr even a proper new hdr or Dolby vision scan wouldn’t add anything to it and would be pointless brightness black levels Etc.

That all depends on the effort put into it and how much you can pull out of the negatives. From all the scans of those films, there isn’t likely to be any improvements. The current release appears to be using HDR to improve the colors and clarity, but doesn’t have more detail in the shadows.

But with adywan’s release your getting better than that making hdr pointless is what your saying when it comes to his version of the original Star Wars trilogy.

Could you please, move your riveting discussion about HDR to your DMs becuase, Adywan is not doing an HDR version and its completely irrelivent to this thread!

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After seeing what lucasfilms hdr grade is compared to adywan’s sdr grade adywan’s crush’s lucasfilm yet again sorry but man how can lucasfilm be this incompetent. 😦

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nobodybutjarjar42 said:

exited for the 1080p version 😃

Maybe there’ll be a BD25 version.
I didn’t even check the first post but would be nice if there were subtitles.

Zero DNR needed regarding restorations, etc… Subtitles please for fan projects.

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AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

nobodybutjarjar42 said:

exited for the 1080p version 😃

Maybe there’ll be a BD25 version.
I didn’t even check the first post but would be nice if there were subtitles.

There actually will be a BD25: Ady is planning to create Blu-ray files for the entire trilogy once everything’s done. And there were quite a few subtitle tracks on ESB, so the other 2 should hopefully have some as well.

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StarkillerAG said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

nobodybutjarjar42 said:

exited for the 1080p version 😃

Maybe there’ll be a BD25 version.
I didn’t even check the first post but would be nice if there were subtitles.

There actually will be a BD25: Ady is planning to create Blu-ray files for the entire trilogy once everything’s done. And there were quite a few subtitle tracks on ESB, so the other 2 should hopefully have some as well.

Excellent.

Zero DNR needed regarding restorations, etc… Subtitles please for fan projects.

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Seeing that the “Extended Death Star” battle is now no longer being a thing, could it be a possible deleted scene under your Bluray Special Features?

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FVDnz said:

Seeing that the “Extended Death Star” battle is now no longer being a thing, could it be a possible deleted scene under your Bluray Special Features?

There’s a hell of a lot of work that would be involved in recreating that whole scene in HD and i feel it would be time best spent on working on finishing the trilogy, so it’s a no i’m afraid.

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adywan said:

NEW COMPARISON VIDEO … See how many changes you can spot. I’ll put together an illustrated list of changes early next week so you can check if you spotted them all

https://youtu.be/tYZuOSZj2wg

YAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Edit: Looks Tremendous! thanks ady! you doing great work!
Also at 4:33 if you look on top of Artoo someone’s head sticks out, most likely luke’s.

-TGWNN

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adywan said:

FVDnz said:

Seeing that the “Extended Death Star” battle is now no longer being a thing, could it be a possible deleted scene under your Bluray Special Features?

There’s a hell of a lot of work that would be involved in recreating that whole scene in HD and i feel it would be time best spent on working on finishing the trilogy, so it’s a no i’m afraid.

You could just include the 720p version that is already completed; no need for deleted scenes to be full HD

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Ice said:

adywan said:

FVDnz said:

Seeing that the “Extended Death Star” battle is now no longer being a thing, could it be a possible deleted scene under your Bluray Special Features?

There’s a hell of a lot of work that would be involved in recreating that whole scene in HD and i feel it would be time best spent on working on finishing the trilogy, so it’s a no i’m afraid.

You could just include the 720p version that is already completed; no need for deleted scenes to be full HD

There is no 720p version

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Awesome reel. I like how you have Vader kill both of the backup pilots in the first trench run. I’ve always liked how ANH showed that Vader is an excellent pilot and marksman and this just enhances it even more.

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There’s a lot to love there! R2’s blinky lights are spot on. I like the shot comparison inside the sandcrawler; it looks like the R2 prop were repaired on set and working properly.

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Great stuff Ady, I’m a big fan of the original but I gotta say I’ve fallen for the more subtle approach you’re going for here. Congrats, it looks so great!

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Still not a big fan of the R2 recoloring by Docking Bay 94, but the rest looks amazing! Can’t wait for the finished edit! Great work! 😊

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This looks amazing in HD!!! Can’t wait to see it. The only thing that still bothers me is when the rebels are flying away after the Death Star explodes, the Falcon always looked like it was flying crooked, like it’s not facing completely forward. I don’t know if I’m explaining it well enough, but the trajectory and the ship’s angle don’t seem to match. This has bothered me even as a kid, pre-Special Edition. Everything else is perfect!

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I actually kind of like the Death Star Praxis ring effect. But if you don’t like it, that’s okay.

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darthrush said:

Didn’t Vader already kill both those pilots in the original? I could be mistaken

In the reel it shows the stormtrooper killing the second one in the 2011 blu-ray.

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