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ZkinandBonez said:

Ronster said:

Nien Nunb might be in Rogue One.

He is Lando’s alien co-pilot in Return of the Jedi.

It seems unlikely that well see any Sullustans in RO as they canonically (in both btw) only joined the Rebel Alliance shortly before the Battle of Endor.

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That wouldn’t have much affect on when individual members of the species joined the Rebellion. For example, in the Legends canon it was a Sullustan that scouted out Yavin IV before it became the home of the hidden Rebel base.

That aside, the thing that discredits the idea that Nien Nunb is in Rogue One is the fact that at that time he was still a smuggler in the current canon. Which was revealed in a Marvel comic back in June of last year.

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Nien Nunb himself is still a smuggler as of the Princess Leia comic, which is set after ANH. He does have ties to the Rebel pilot Evaan Verlaine in that story, and there was speculation that she might be in the movie a while ago when EW released all those stills, but the character people thought was her was eventually given a different name.

EDIT: beaten to it.

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Well he has cropped up as a character depicted fighting on scarif for battlefront Rogue One expansion.

I don’t know what exactly the history of any of these species are but It seems weird to put him there. Might not be him but a sullustarian.

Anyway there will be further EU history re-written as Biggs seems to be in and already a pilot. Porkins is also in. Them 2 pilots are 100%

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If an aged Ric shows up, I think my head and Frink’s will both explode in Cronenbergian glory. 😉

Not too mention the Ridiculous edit continuity will be all screwed up.

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If any Force ghost can return from the netherworld and reincarnate into a new physical body, it’s Ric Olié.

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SilverWook said:

If an aged Ric shows up, I think my head and Frink’s will both explode in Cronenbergian glory. 😉

Not too mention the Ridiculous edit continuity will be all screwed up.

Hey this is the rogue one spoiler thread, not the ridiculous trilogy spoiler thread! :p

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Hey, it’s been out for over three years now!

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“MON CALAMARI ALIEN BASED ON WINSTON CHURCHILL”

I kind of like the idea of a Churchill-esque Mon Calamari general. He’s probably only going to have a few lines, but it could be interesting, or at least amusing.
I’m also curious as to how they managed to make aliens out of “Bela Lugosi, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ernest Borgnine, Lee Van Cleef, and Peter Lorre”.

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This is a spoiler thread isn’t it?

I Spoil.

Protect TV Spot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kdfpvdAOsk

This next one is really good Cassian and Jyn… Bit of hand holding going on. And some nice new visuals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uss2S4cFVbQ

The cringe Line line is back but it’s a better different take 😃

Only another 20 more TV spots to go!!!

Another thing I am noticing and I am very glad is that we are starting to hear some more uplifting music themes being introduced which is really what it needed.

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MalàStrana said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It has been suggested that these rings might be Star Destroyer docking stations.
As far as adding things we’ve not seen before this at least makes a lot of sense, compared to adding new fighters.

I’m still curious about what that thing hovering in the middle is supposed to be?

It looks like a planet shield (like the one we can see in Star Trek Beyond).

edit: I guess the x-wings destroy it, then the commando led by Erso can land on the planet, get the plans, leave, etc.

Turns out they were in fact shield gates;

From Entertainment Weekly:

What you’re looking at is the Shield Gate, and the world below is Scarif, a tropical planet that is one of the Empire’s key military bases. Think of it as a galactic Los Alamos, the top-secret desert town where scientists and engineers built the first nuclear bomb during World War II.

Scarif is a gigantic version of that — a remote weapons development facility that is so precious to the Emperor that the entire planet is covered by an impenetrable force field.

“You can see the blue sheen surrounding the entire planet,” Rogue One co-producer John Swartz says. “The shield gate is the security. As Imperial ships and cargo comes through, it punches a hole in the shield so they can pass. The gate officer gives clearances as they give out their call signs.”

Scarif is a key part of what the filmmakers call “the Imperial security complex,” he added, making it the home base of Ben Mendelsohn’s Director Orson Krennic, head of the Empire’s special weapons division.

“It’s part of their military industrial complex. It’s not necessarily where the Death Star was constructed, but a lot of military research goes on there,” Swartz says. “That’s why Krennic spends time there. It’s the site of research, structural engineering, munitions and manufacturing, all rolled into one facility.”

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A planet protected by a shield with only one access point? Now where have I seen that before? 😉

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ZkinandBonez said:

Turns out they were in fact shield gates;

“It’s part of their military industrial complex. It’s not necessarily where the Death Star was constructed, but a lot of military research goes on there,” Swartz says. “That’s why Krennic spends time there. It’s the site of research, structural engineering, munitions and manufacturing, all rolled into one facility.”

Ok that’s pretty interesting and leading statement that the Death Star does not orbit Scarif at all by the sounds of it.

But If you think about the original leaked teaser with the tie fighter that flew over the jungle that was “Scarif”.

This is not Scarif so where is it?

The other Planet what is it Eadu? That has rings visible in the sky… When Krenicks ship flys over the beach.

Could this be that Blue misty Planet (Malpaz?) in the day time?

Or is this another planet all together?

Or is it indeed Scarif?

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Well, it could be that we only see the DS over Jedha. Since it’s already in ANH there’s no need for it to appear throughout the entire movie, especially since Scarif is where they steal the plans.
I guess it could show up at the very end though, but it sees weird that the DS would be needed at Scarif. It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I have a feeling that the plot will revolve around three missions; sabotaging some Kyber crystal mining on Jedha (or at least getting some info). The DS shows up to stop them and cover it’s tracks. Then they go to try to save Galen from Eadu. Perhaps they get some info from him there. And finally with this info they go to steal the plans on Scarif. That’s my guess anyway.

As for the early marketing teaser, well, that could simply be marketing. They would have had good reason to avoid spoilers at that time. I also think it was made even before they started shooting, so it could have been based on some early ideas. Also the teaser did show a jungle, and Scarif is in all the trailers shown has having many oceans/lakes with small jungle areas as opposed to the thick jungle shown in the teaser.

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ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I thought when they destroy Alderaan in SW that it was the first time the superlaser was used.

Well, the RO trailer does show the DS firing on Jedha. However the super laser is most likely not fully operational at this point, hence it doesn’t blow up the entire planet and instead just causes a lot of destruction. I guess they did this in RO so that the DS can still be a big threat to the main characters without undermining ANH. Alderaan was simply the first test of the “fully operational” DS and its planet destroying capabilities. In RO it seem to only be capable of blowing up a city-sized area.

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There had to be a few test firings, probably at half power. Maybe not an entire planet, but enough to ensure the damn thing would work. Tarkin would never risk a public malfunction.

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ZkinandBonez said:

ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I thought when they destroy Alderaan in SW that it was the first time the superlaser was used.

Well, the RO trailer does show the DS firing on Jedha. However the super laser is most likely not fully operational at this point, hence it doesn’t blow up the entire planet and instead just causes a lot of destruction. I guess they did this in RO so that the DS can still be a big threat to the main characters without undermining ANH. Alderaan was simply the first test of the “fully operational” DS and its planet destroying capabilities. In RO it seem to only be capable of blowing up a city-sized area.

Ugh…

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Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I thought when they destroy Alderaan in SW that it was the first time the superlaser was used.

Well, the RO trailer does show the DS firing on Jedha. However the super laser is most likely not fully operational at this point, hence it doesn’t blow up the entire planet and instead just causes a lot of destruction. I guess they did this in RO so that the DS can still be a big threat to the main characters without undermining ANH. Alderaan was simply the first test of the “fully operational” DS and its planet destroying capabilities. In RO it seem to only be capable of blowing up a city-sized area.

Ugh…

Why “ugh”? Like SilverWook said, it makes sense for them to test the unfinished laser. Also since the plot of RO seem to revolve around Kyber crystals from Jedha and Galen’s expertise on them, it makes sense that they would have a weaker laser during this film.

Also ANH characters constantly bragging about the “fully armed and operatinal” DS does mean that it should be unfinished in RO. It’d be silly if it just hovered over some planet all the time doing nothing.

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ZkinandBonez said:

ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I thought when they destroy Alderaan in SW that it was the first time the superlaser was used.

Well, the RO trailer does show the DS firing on Jedha. However the super laser is most likely not fully operational at this point, hence it doesn’t blow up the entire planet and instead just causes a lot of destruction. I guess they did this in RO so that the DS can still be a big threat to the main characters without undermining ANH. Alderaan was simply the first test of the “fully operational” DS and its planet destroying capabilities. In RO it seem to only be capable of blowing up a city-sized area.

Ugh…

Why “ugh”? Like SilverWook said, it makes sense for them to test the unfinished laser. Also since the plot of RO seem to revolve around Kyber crystals from Jedha and Galen’s expertise on them, it makes sense that they would have a weaker laser during this film.

Also ANH characters constantly bragging about the “fully armed and operatinal” DS does mean that it should be unfinished in RO. It’d be silly if it just hovered over some planet all the time doing nothing.

this has mostly been my take as well. that shot from the trailer almost certainly is the death star in some low power mode / not working mode. and if it isn’t the death star, i would be slightly annoyed that there is some other amazing weapon we never heard of…

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dahmage said:

ZkinandBonez said:

ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I thought when they destroy Alderaan in SW that it was the first time the superlaser was used.

Well, the RO trailer does show the DS firing on Jedha. However the super laser is most likely not fully operational at this point, hence it doesn’t blow up the entire planet and instead just causes a lot of destruction. I guess they did this in RO so that the DS can still be a big threat to the main characters without undermining ANH. Alderaan was simply the first test of the “fully operational” DS and its planet destroying capabilities. In RO it seem to only be capable of blowing up a city-sized area.

Ugh…

Why “ugh”? Like SilverWook said, it makes sense for them to test the unfinished laser. Also since the plot of RO seem to revolve around Kyber crystals from Jedha and Galen’s expertise on them, it makes sense that they would have a weaker laser during this film.

Also ANH characters constantly bragging about the “fully armed and operatinal” DS does mean that it should be unfinished in RO. It’d be silly if it just hovered over some planet all the time doing nothing.

this has mostly been my take as well. that shot from the trailer almost certainly is the death star in some low power mode / not working mode. and if it isn’t the death star, i would be slightly annoyed that there is some other amazing weapon we never heard of…

Expeditionary Battle Planetoid?

Death Star prototype?

Nocturnô?

Unidentified test unit Death Star?

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DuracellEnergizer said:

dahmage said:

ZkinandBonez said:

ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

ray_afraid said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It firing on Scarif would be pretty weird. But then again that’s the sort of crazy thing that the Empire might do.

I thought when they destroy Alderaan in SW that it was the first time the superlaser was used.

Well, the RO trailer does show the DS firing on Jedha. However the super laser is most likely not fully operational at this point, hence it doesn’t blow up the entire planet and instead just causes a lot of destruction. I guess they did this in RO so that the DS can still be a big threat to the main characters without undermining ANH. Alderaan was simply the first test of the “fully operational” DS and its planet destroying capabilities. In RO it seem to only be capable of blowing up a city-sized area.

Ugh…

Why “ugh”? Like SilverWook said, it makes sense for them to test the unfinished laser. Also since the plot of RO seem to revolve around Kyber crystals from Jedha and Galen’s expertise on them, it makes sense that they would have a weaker laser during this film.

Also ANH characters constantly bragging about the “fully armed and operatinal” DS does mean that it should be unfinished in RO. It’d be silly if it just hovered over some planet all the time doing nothing.

this has mostly been my take as well. that shot from the trailer almost certainly is the death star in some low power mode / not working mode. and if it isn’t the death star, i would be slightly annoyed that there is some other amazing weapon we never heard of…

Expeditionary Battle Planetoid?

Death Star prototype?

Nocturnô?

Unidentified test unit Death Star?

i don’t know any EU stuff, but wouldn’t it be really confusing to have any of those introduced in a movie that is all about the death star?