Rogue One * Spoilers * Thread — Page 40

MalàStrana said:

The surprising part of the trailer (for me) is the huge space battle. We really need a good space battle: TFA space battle wasn’t very imaginative, TPM’s was too short, ROTS opening was not really a space battle and AOTC only had a short asteroid chase. The cgi models for the x-wings seem too “clean” in the trailer (and there is a weird ornage color on the walkers), so I guess there is still some work to be done on the effects before the release of the movie.

I agree. We don’t need something on the scales of the Battle of Endor but we need a space battle which is comparable the size of the Battle of Yavin.

Watched the trailer, but I am fully dedicated this time around to leaving the spoilers. With two months to go and no major leaks like TFA had, the third trailer is the last thing I intend to see. Showed me more than I probably wanted to see, considering I was satisfied just with the second trailer.

Already unsubscribed and unfollowed any possible people/channels/pages that would ruin things.

Must…stay…strong.

Nice… Never knew that look out tower had lights on it. Up and down buttons I suppose 😃

Trading cards images released no real spoilers

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/10/20-new-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-images-via-star-wars-card-trader/

At San Francisco Comic Con I think it was Pablo Hidalgo said that the film starts off the main plot (the trigger) with Riz Ahmeds character Bohdi Rook. He is the imperial Cargo Pilot. So I guess he may have been shipping some prisioners also perhaps even in a clandestine way to dispose of these undesirables.

Another thing that I have been pondering. And it has to do with Vader sending the distress Signal aboard the Tantive IV and “Inform the Senate all aboard were killed” or something like that… Will the Rebels believe Princess Leia to be Dead and the mission a failure?

The structure seen in the x-wings space battle has been speculated to be a dry dock for the imperial fleet. Perhaps it’s a type of Peal Harbour scenario? “They will never know we are coming”

There are also some new Character Trading Cards also. More Spoilerific but not in terms of plot just unseen costumes and character names.

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/10/new-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-images-and-character-descriptions/

Yes but it does not rule out the two stories overlapping.

If the movie was to smash cut to the command center on Yavin. Bail Organa Distraught and in Tears at the loss of his daughter. The sense that they very nearly succeeded but the plans were lost aboard the Tantive IV.

At this point from the Rebel command center’s point of view the whole thing although it was a victory was in vein. And we never got the full weight of what happened.

When you watch Star Wars / A New Hope (I guess the episode name would sum it up all hope should be lost in Rogue One) you don’t get the full weight of the opening without knowing what rests on the mission succeeding which it obviously does not. But we don’t get any reaction related to the characters we are going to meet in Rogue one of how bad the news of Tantive IV being destroyed was. Leia is dead for all they know and the mission was ultimately a failure.

You could show Leia as a blip on a Radar Screen and it would still have a huge amount of emotional weight behind it.

But then Darth Vader sending the distress signal and all aboard were killed. Get’s contradicted by that.

So that is just a George Lucus plot point where he screwed up?

It’s interesting Tobar I’ll give you that.

So that means that the command center never knew the mission had failed / succeeded in any way and they also never knew that one of the ships were destroyed and all aboard were killed including Leia?

Perhaps they do not know then that Leia has the Secret Plans beamed aboard?

The film was never written with a prequel in mind I suppose. But it can’t even get it’s own plot straight? My mind boggles now at how Leia actually ends up getting the plans as it really was not anything to do with her. And it also was not the mission she was “Meant to be on”

Perhaps Leia was not even meant to be on that ship the Tantive IV but some how ended up on it.

I would rather believe the guy who greets Leia on Yavin was not high enough up the chain to know about the “Secret Mission” In fact that guy does not know anything about what is going on really.

You are certainly not going to reveal an Imperial Senator as a “Rebel Spy” in public to all the alliance.

It’s pretty clear in ANH that Bail Organa was supposed to get the plans. And we know he’s in a caméo sequence with Mothma when the mission is discussed, so I guess it was Captain Antilles job to get the plans so that as a diplomatic ship he could avoid further Imperial investigation… but Vader couldn’t care less about diplomatic regulations and attacks the ship. The fact is that Leia was also supposed to meet with Ben and ask him to get involved. We might get some more info about a “hidden Jedi Knight who could help us”.

[I also wouldn’t mind at all a scene with the Imperial Senate, since we’ve never seen the Senate in the Imperial era; could be quite fun to see PT and OT visual styles colliding in one sequence]

Tobar said:

Ronster said:

But then Darth Vader sending the distress signal and all aboard were killed. Get’s contradicted by that.

No, the ruse with the distress signal was for the benefit of the senate:

Send a distress signal and then inform the senate that all aboard were killed!

The senate itself was dissolved by the Emperor not long afterward. So it’s quite possible the destruction of the Tantive was never reported.

The Distress Signal is indeed for the Senate but nobody would ever admit that Leia “The Imperial Senator” was sent by Alderaan to be involved in a plot to Destroy the Imperial Super waepon of mass destruction. If anything this collusion and deceit by the senate was probably what caused it to be dissolved as it became clear that the Senate or parts of it was plotting against the Empire in some form of Rebel Alliance.

The Empire wanted the Senate to believe Leia was dead. To send a clear message to the mutineers. Although they would not let on that they have Leia held captive.

According to Anyone from Alderaan Leia was alive and well on Holiday by the lakes and mountains. She was never on that ship… But the Empire knew she was. And they pretended she was killed for the conspirators.

Why else would you sneek about with a hood on if you were not meant to be publically known to be there but in “Secret”

MalàStrana said:

The surprising part of the trailer (for me) is the huge space battle. We really need a good space battle: TFA space battle wasn’t very imaginative, TPM’s was too short

Superkid Ani was in it so by default it was too long.

MalàStrana said:

[I also wouldn’t mind at all a scene with the Imperial Senate, since we’ve never seen the Senate in the Imperial era; could be quite fun to see PT and OT visual styles colliding in one sequence]

Like this?

Perhaps when the senate started looking like draculas castle people will have realised it is time for a change?

I really like that image though. It’s the only OT version of the Senate I know of.

And It also looks like it’s been built on top of and within the Jedi Temple eh?

You can imagine the spiel about using the building and in principle continuing to try and uphold the Justice and Truth of the Jedi order whilst they were responsible for killing them off practically. I bet that is a Lucus Idea, I think it has his trademark all over it TBH.

Can’t say I ever noticed that before today though.

Tyrphanax said:

Hardcore Legend said:

I thought one of the new canon books said it was turned into an imperial palace.

Possible, I haven’t read any of them.

I haven’t seen the book in question, but I’ve seen this bit of lore before; it’s also listed on wookieepedia as canon, and we know how much they like to catalogue canon.

Our detention cells at the Imperial Palace are second to none. Come and stay with us you’ll never want to leave…

😃

ZkinandBonez said:

It seems that Duracell is going to release a movie-based SW commercial every year now, just like they did with TFA last year.

Duracell Rogue One commercial

Tobar said:

That’s cool with me. It feels like a tradition now, when I think back to this classic.

Can’t wait to hear how DuracellEnergizer feels about this.