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Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 167

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five-stars

1.Rogue One
2.The Empire Strikes Back
3.Star Wars
4.Return of the Jedi
5.The Last Jedi
6.The Force Awakens
7.Solo
8.Rebels (animated tv series)
9.Resistance (animated tv series)
10.The Clone Wars (animated tv series)
11.Ewoks (animated tv series)

four-stars

12.Star Wars Holiday Special
13.Caravan of Courage (Ewoks tv movie)
14.The Battle for Endor (Ewoks tv movie)

three-stars

15.The Phantom Menace
16.Attack of the Clones
17.Revenge of the Sith

two-stars

18.Droids (animated tv series)

one-star

19.Star Wars: The Clone Wars (animated movie)
20.Clone Wars (animated tv series)

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Using a 5-star scale for rankings is an interesting idea. Here’s my personal ranking:

Five stars

  1. The Empire Strikes Back
  2. Star Wars

Four stars

  1. Return of the Jedi
  2. The Last Jedi
  3. Rogue One

Three stars

  1. The Force Awakens
  2. Solo
  3. Revenge of the Sith

Two stars

  1. The Holiday Special
  2. The Phantom Menace

One star

  1. Attack of the Clones

Myself, the boy, two droids, and no questions asked.

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Hal 9000 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

one-star

20.Clone Wars (animated tv series)

😦

That’s for the first Clone Wars Series, not the more popular The Clone Wars that we’re about to get another season of.

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Yes, Tartakovsky’s series. It’s widely regarded as a very good series, especially around these parts. I consider it to be much better than the 2008 series, and I think many other users share my opinion.

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Omni said:

Yes, Tartakovsky’s series. It’s widely regarded as a very good series, especially around these parts. I consider it to be much better than the 2008 series, and I think many other users share my opinion.

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it. I remember not being able to get through it because I hated the animation style. Maybe I should give it another chance. Not sure how available it is though since it’s not canon.

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Yes, I know he’s referring to the microseries, hence the sad face.
I never could get into the 2008 series, but enjoyed the older one.

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Rodney-2187 said:

Not sure how available it is though since it’s not canon.

The dvds are out of print but iso files of the american discs can be found on the spleen (and maybe elsewhere).

I’ve said it many times but I stick to my position: Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars is the best thing that happened to Star Wars since the OT. It gives in around 2 hours most of what I wanted to see in the PT (Anakin/Obi-Wan friendship, Anakin being the best starfighter pilot ever, intelligent references to the OT - Yavin IV duel ! -, badass vilains - Ventress, Grievous -, more depth - the heroes journey that foreshadows Anakin’s fall -, more mythology - kyber crystals, lightsaber construction -, and breathtaking action scenes - gosh, the entire battle for Coruscant is great!).

Without the microseries, the PT is lacking its heart. I’ve always thought that Lucas probably was upset the PT was a Trilogy since its narrative works better as a 4 part story, otherwise the infamous Clone Wars only happen at the end of Episode II and end around the middle part of Episode III. He probably was also upset this cartoon was way better than expected, so he “erased” it with a CGI version which is nowhere near as good.

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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Mala, how much of the cgi version have you watched in order to make a fair comparison ? I actually like both series very much. Tartokovsky’s is fantastic and really feels like Star Wars , the cgi series also greatly expands upon the friendship between Obi-Wan and Anakin and has some great drama . It reminds me a lot of the original Marvel Star Wars comic series …there were some goofy one offs but as a whole , it was also epic. See the Landing at point Rain , The Mortis Trilogy and pretty much all of the lost missions season six and you may see what I am talking about . Although I will say , Grevious has never been more badass than in the 2d animated series and I wish he would have been more like that in the movies

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Havoc n said:

Also the 2003 Tarakovsky series is available through YouTube in it’s entirety and like most people here I think is really great and recommend taking another look at it. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOdxpOxy4M9Ncqw31bNB9dtsNg3Ga2bfB

I will check it out again sometime this week and report back.

For the record, I used to not like The Clone Wars much either, but after a rewatch it contains some of my favorite Star Wars moments. I suppose Clone Wars deserves another chance too.

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screams in the void said:

Mala, how much of the cgi version have you watched in order to make a fair comparison ?

All of it 😉

But over 120 episodes with a 20 minutes running time, TCW fails to maintain my attention entirely where CW is a 120 minutes ride, pure Star Wars-packed. It feels more like a movie, especially its second part that closely ties to ROTS. I should also mention an incredible sequence at the beginning of the first volume: Anakin walking in an eery and dark Coruscant crowded area, and seing his own reflection - a dark and trouble face - while being chased by who later revealed to be Padmé. Great piece.

(also the knighting scene which is brillant)

(and such a good idea for Anakin and Obi-Wan to have a sort of argument over how they miss Qui-Gon)

CW = masterpiece. Period!

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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I think TCW is Star Wars at its best. The character arcs with Domino Squad, Ashoka, Vemtress, and Maul are amazing.

I’ve only seen bits and pieces of CW, but I should give it to a watch sometime.

Maul- A Star Wars Story

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I mean by that that I failed to see the point of big chunks of it. Like at least a third of the episodes are quite bad, and only a third is actually good. TCW has its moments, but like Rebels it’s way too long and lacks focus.

“I have to say that I felt George’s group of six films had more innovative visual imagination, and this film was more of a retrenchment to things you had seen before and characters you had seen before, and it took a few baby steps forward with new characters.” - James Cameron about Episode VII.

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I’ve never watched it this way, but next time I’d like to watch part 1 of the Clone Wars microseries right after Episode II, then part 2 another day right before Episode III. Then Rogue One one night, followed by ANH the next night.

All in the presence of someone who is uninitiated, so I can exercise my vampire nature through watching vicariously.

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Hal 9000 said:

I’ve never watched it this way, but next time I’d like to watch part 1 of the Clone Wars microseries right after Episode II, then part 2 another day right before Episode III. Then Rogue One one night, followed by ANH the next night.

All in the presence of someone who is uninitiated, so I can exercise my vampire nature through watching vicariously.

I’ve done this before, and it’s perfect. CW bridges the gap perfectly in a way that TCW leaves a lot to be desired. I consider most of what happens in TCW a “what if” anyway. It’s really hard for me to buy that Anakin had an apprentice in between AotC and RotS…

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I took the advice above and rewatched Clone Wars (2003 - 2005 animated tv series). I must say I loved it. I remember hating it when I tried to watch it before and not liking the tone or the animation style. I didn’t have a problem with any of it at all this time and enjoyed it very much. It’s definitely good to revisit things from time to time.

When comparing it to The Clone Wars (2008 - 2014 animated tv series) I will say the action and tone are more intense in the 2003 series. At least for me, I’d say the 2008 series has more drama and goes deeper into the individual characters.

This made me really pour over my list and put some more thought into my assesment of all things Star Wars. Here is my new list, and I think it should hold up for a while, at least until I have to add The Mandalorian and The Rise of Skywalker.

Thanks to everyone who encouraged me to give Clone Wars another look.

five-stars
1.Rogue One
2.The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
3.Star Wars (1977)
4.Return of the Jedi (1983)
5.The Last Jedi
6.The Force Awakens
7.Solo
8.Rebels (2014 - 2018 animated tv series)
9.Resistance (2018 animated tv series)

four-stars
10.The Clone Wars (2008 - 2014 animated tv series)
11.Clone Wars (2003 - 2005 animated tv series)
12.Ewoks (1985 - 1986 animated tv series)
13.Star Wars Holiday Special (1978)
14.Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure (1984 tv movie)
15.Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (1985 tv movie)

three-stars
16.The Phantom Menace (1999)
17.Attack of the Clones (2002)
18.Revenge of the Sith (2005)

two-stars
19.Droids (1985 - 1986 animated tv series)

one-star
20.The Clone Wars (2008 animated movie)