ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss! — Page 37

I don’t see why Obi-Wan would be describing someone totally different who was not his father to Luke. I’m pretty sure that Lucas intended Vader to be Anakin after ESB. No other idea ever occurred to me. It wouldn’t make sense to create another character when we’ve already clearly established Obi-Wan’s relationship with Vader and the fact that he used to be a good Jedi before falling to the dark side.

As for the revelation that Leia was Luke’s sister, I’ve honestly never felt that was forced at all. I actually thought it was strongly implied at the end of ESB, given that Leia can hear Luke with the force and Yoda teases “another.” I’ve certainly never had the problem with it that others do. Always felt totally natural and made perfect sense to me; Leia would have most likely been the one I thought Yoda was talking about if I saw ESB in 1980. I mean, yeah, they kissed and that’s kind of gross, but it was just to make Han jealous. Not because Leia was really attracted to her brother. Even if she was, it’s actually pretty common for twins separated at birth to be attracted to each other when they reunite as adults… But really, though I certainly do not think Lucas had this idea in mind for ANH, I think it’s possible he did for ESB. The idea that Leia would be Luke’s love interest rather than Han’s was certainly killed off right at the beginning of the film and cemented hard by the end, and I think that was done for a reason.

ray_afraid said:

Density said:

I mean, yeah, they kissed and that’s kind of gross, but it was just to make Han jealous. Not because Leia was really attracted to her brother.

I’ve preached that message several times in my years here, but there are some who still think Luke and Leia were “making out” and that there was some kind of unresolved “love triangle” at the end of ESB.

Well, there is the deleted hardcore sex scene…

Any sites where one might be able to find that one?

I’m asking for a friend.

Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

Well, there is the deleted hardcore sex scene…

It’s not hardcore sex, they make out. Also, I’m pretty sure it was cut for a reason.

I’m pretty sure you haven’t actually seen it.

Ronster said:

Anyone who contributed to the Collaborative thread will tell you that there is a far better film waiting to emerge.

As for Ewoks, oh well you just have to accept them and grow to love them unlike Jar Jar Binks and gungans

Ryan McAvoy said:

and the notion that ROTJ is inferior to the visual abortions that are the theatrical cuts of the PT seems like mass insanity.

Soh the meynstrim’s öü’ ö’ ets maind büt a seklüded frenge communetey’r’on on the wehb’s the voice of reason laike? Lok aht thes harrd künt, ohbviouslay focking fanceys ‘emsel’ wun!

The clock is ticking, pal.

SilverWook said:

Your shtick is getting really old really fast.

Gehts focking bohring afterawuyl…

TV’s Frink said:

The clock is ticking, pal.

Thah’ künt es gonna fock some künt!

Were this an average day for me, I’d roll with your bullshit and poke fun at it in my generally absurdist way.

But today? Today I’m really angry – I’m more angry than I’ve been in a long time – so all you’ll get from me are these two words: FUCK OFF.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Were this an average day for me, I’d roll with your bullshit and poke fun at it in my generally absurdist way.

But today? Today I’m really angry – I’m more angry than I’ve been in a long time – so all you’ll get from me are these two words: FUCK OFF.

Fer FOCK’s, seyke!

You won’t be missed.

Thanks!

If only a twelve-year-old bad reputation could be so easy to be get rid of …

Aw, your posts aren’t that bad. 😉

Choose the Force. Choose a brown bath robe. Choose a life of contemplative solitude. Choose not to have a family. Choose a laser sword, choose bleeping robots, airspeeders, stolen data tapes and tractor beam controls. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and being a mentor to the son of the guy you left limbless and slowly cooking on the side of a lava lake. Choose a stupid rat tail mullet for the peak years of your career. Choose a hovel, Choose your friends. Choose mind tricks and matching lies. Choose a trip to Alderaan for almost the price of starship. Choose a rubbish alias and wondering if you ever owned a droid and where you put that lightsaber you pinched off that friend you left for dead. Choose sitting on that commode chair watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing senate and council meetings, stuffing jawa juice down your neck. Choose fading away at the end of it all, pishing your last as a ghost in a swamp, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, freak faced, big eared gnome-thing written into the sequel to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose the Force.

I choose not to choose the Force.

I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you’ve got death sticks?

I choose longing for a woman who hates me.

I’m not sure it’s the best alternative, but no one’s invented a lasersword yet.

ESB takes place before ROTJ. Come on, take this discussion seriously!