Since there are discussions amounting to Rey Palpatine edits in other threads, I thought I’d post this idea here.
My favored version of TROS is Rey Nobody, but as we know removing the Rey Palpatine revelation pulls a lot of the drama from the already weakened story. So the ideal solution for me has always been to keep the Rey Palpatine revelation, but later reveal it to be a lie.
We can call this “Rey Nopatine”, perhaps. Or not, but it would be funnier if we did 😃
Previous versions of that idea have fallen short, however, because the hangar scene still needs a revelation that does not become undone by the end of the story.
So I started thinking about what sort of revelation would be most useful during the Kylo Quarters Duel, and this led me to realize that one of the big issues with the Rey Palpatine revelation in the first place was that this revelation has no bearing on the story after Rey joins up with Ben on Exegol. The issue of Rey’s parentage is essentially dropped because it doesn’t matter, and really never mattered except as a bit of external pressure on Rey to goad her into conflict with Palpatine, a conflict which would have happened anyway.
An ideal revelation in Kylo’s Quarters would be one that had ramifications extending throughout the entire climax of the film, not just ending in the middle of it. So here is the idea:
During Rey’s training, she would have an extra vision in with the visions of the Sith Throne. This would be an image of Rey lying dead on Exegol, contrasted against the image of Rey sitting on the throne, as if the two images were fighting for supremacy, balanced in opposition.
Then, in Kylo’s Quarters, he reveals the meaning of these two competing visions:
“Rey….wherever you are…You are hard to find.
“You are hard to get rid of.”
“I pushed you in the desert because I needed to see it…I needed you to see it…who you are. Darkness is your destiny. Rey…”
“You’re lying.”
“You’ve been having visions…I had those visions too. When I trained with Luke.”
“Don’t!”
“Rey, they were the same visions…the same terrible choice.”
“I don’t want this!”
“The Dark Side…or death.”
“No!”
“I chose darkness…and so will you.”
(Rey sees the two visions, one of herself on the throne, the other dead on Exegol.)
“You can see it, can’t you? That no matter your choice…”
“Stop talking.”
“…you condemn the Jedi to extinction.”
(Cutaway to heroes capture)
“Palpatine knows you will choose the dark, Rey. He knows the rest of your story. He sent his assassin to Jakku, looking for you…but your parents wouldn’t tell him where you were. So he killed them.”
(Rey hears the sound of her mother’s death)
“No!”
“So that’s where you are.”
“You know why the Emperor’s always wanted you. I’ll come tell you.”
…
“Why did the Emperor come for me? Why did he want to kill a child? Tell me.”
“He didn’t want you dead…he wanted you with him. Rey…you have his power. You’re his granddaughter.”
“Palpatine wants the strongest of us to take the throne as his rightful heir. But he doesn’t know the destiny that binds us through the Force. You know it’s true…that we will rise…or fall…together.”
“You know what you need to do. You know.”
“I do.”
…
In the scene with Finn, Poe, and D-O, a brief bit of offscreen dialogue is changed to make it clear that Rey told Finn what she had heard from Kylo about her parents, but that Finn later learned from D-O that Kylo’s story didn’t hold up.
“This droid has a ton of information about Exegol.”
“Wait, coneface?”
“D-O”
“Sorry, D-O”
“Rey said he went to Jakku with Ochi of Bestoon.”
“Why was Ochi going there?”
“To bring a little girl he was supposed to take from Jakku, to the Emperor.”
“But D-O never went there.”
…
In the theatrical version of the film, the scene of Luke’s island was actively destructive to the stakes of the film because the drama was about whether she would be corrupted by knowledge of her true family. Being bolstered by Luke’s pep talk removed any doubt that Rey would make the right decision.
Here, however, the stakes are not about whether she will turn to darkness, but whether she can accept the burden of completing her Jedi path, even if it leads to her death. Here, Luke’s words are far more on point. In fact, the theatrical line about Leia sensing the death of her son at the end of her Jedi path can be reinstated, since it matches Ben’s vision of his death and would confirm Luke’s suspicions that Ben’s vision was accurate. Neither Luke nor Leia could face the choice that they knew Ben must eventually make.
…
This is an optional change, but more dialogue can be inserted into the brief scene of Rey flying to Exegol, indicating that Poe and Finn have decided to trust Rey’s actions, whatever they may be.
“It’s Rey. She’s going to Exegol.”
“But she doesn’t know the truth.”
“She doesn’t need it. She’s showing us the way to get there.”
“Then we go together.”
…
In the final confrontation with Palpatine, there could be another line hammering home that Palpatine was lying to her about her past and that Rey truly is a nobody.
“Before you die, know the truth! You are no Palpatine. You are nothing. A scavenger girl is no match for the power in me. I am all the Sith!”
“And I…I’m a Jedi.”
…
So to recap:
In this edit, Kylo’s revelation to Rey is that he once had the same sort of visions as hers, visions where he saw his death and perhaps even the death of his entire family, and by extension the end of the Jedi religion. This explains why Luke went to an island to hide, and why Rey joined him on this island after she learned the truth as well. The conflict in the film is reframed from whether or not Rey will be corrupted by the Dark Side, to whether she will make the impossible choice between facing Palpatine and condemning herself and the Jedi religion to extinction or joining the Dark Side and surviving.
This also allows Ben to be faced with this same choice…join the Dark Side, or die. He chose to live those years ago, but now he is able to make the choice to give his life for Rey and die as a Jedi. The great thing about these visions is that they must come true. Now there is a reason for the death and resurrection shenanigans at the end of the film, and it resolves these threads at the end of the climax where they belong.