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For me, yes, the contras are more than enough. I'm more a fan of story and dialogue than I am picture and sound. I'll take the speckled black and white of Clerks over refined looking films with crap story and dialogue any day of the week. Pretty doesn't make it perfect.

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For me, yes, the contras are more than enough.
I'd normally agree. But now that I have the *coughs* originals *coughs* on DVD.... I don't know, I don't even recall every tiny little change, since it's been so long that the SE was shown in theaters. Hence the vague memories.

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I'm more a fan of story and dialogue than I am picture and sound. I'll take the speckled black and white of Clerks over refined looking films with crap story and dialogue any day of the week. Pretty doesn't make it perfect.
True. BUT, as I stated above, I'll have to see that again for myself. If it's really that bad (and I recall being quite disappointed back in 1997), I can still sell the set on eBay.

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True. BUT, as I stated above, I'll have to see that again for myself. If it's really that bad (and I recall being quite disappointed back in 1997), I can still sell the set on eBay.


I get the feeling there will be many sets on eBay.
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*LOL*

I guess you're right, guys.

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That might mean you can pick it up relatively cheap. Might wanna wait for a couple of weeks and see what shows up. Get it down to half price, possibly.
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"I get the feeling there will be many sets on eBay."

Agreed, definitely. I really think that many, many people who buy/order the DVD's will assume they are the OT's. And when they discover they're not they won't want them much anymore. I think this would apply more to people who buy lots of DVD's more than fans, as most fans will know about the changes.
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I disagree on that one, Samatar.

I believe that many people who are going to buy the sets don't even recall the original theatrical cuts.

Sad, but true.

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"I believe that many people who are going to buy the sets don't even recall the original theatrical cuts."

I agree, many people may not. But I still think many others will. Mind, I am not saying the majority, or even a large percentage, but I think there will be more refunds than if it had been the OT, which will be what many are expecting. Anyway I could be wrong, it's jut a thought I had. Don't know if there will be any statistics released on such a thing so maybe we will never know.
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I believe that many people who are going to buy the sets don't even recall the original theatrical cuts.


My dad did not. He watched TESB SE back in 1997, and I remember him saying "wow how could they achieve all those SFX back in 1980?", and I had to explain to him what the SE was, and he said he remembered seeing the movie back in 1980, and he said it was exactly the same.
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A lot of people will realize that they are not the OT. And they may be turned off enough to sell them. However, the vast majority truly does not know the difference and will keep them anyway. Yet that small number of people who do sell may provide enough catalyst for people who don't know the difference to investigate and see why they are being sold and then realize that they do not have the true version.

One can hope...
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lets all hope, not just one.
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A lot of people will realize that they are not the OT. And they may be turned off enough to sell them. However, the vast majority truly does not know the difference and will keep them anyway. Yet that small number of people who do sell may provide enough catalyst for people who don't know the difference to investigate and see why they are being sold and then realize that they do not have the true version.

One can hope...


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You're probably right, but as I said, one can hope...
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I disagree on that one, Samatar.

I believe that many people who are going to buy the sets don't even recall the original theatrical cuts.

Sad, but true.

Doc


Very unfortunate. It's been seven years since the SEs were released, and it's difficult to remember a time without them. It's probably even worse for the casual fan. The main change that I liked in the SEs, though, was the end music of ROTJ (not the celebration sequence itself, just the change of music). This is probably because of this one day when I was home sick from school and watched the original ROTJ (back before the SEs), and as I lay miserably on the couch afterward, Yub Yub echoed in my head and made me feel worse.

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I thought I'd revive this thread and state my opinions on this topic. Besides the sond and picture was there anything to like about the Special Editions? Well, for me there were several things that I did like.

ANH:
1. I did like the new approach to Mos Eisley. It did open up the city much more and showed it in a grander scale. It could have been done better but over all I liked it very much.

2. The Han and Jabba scene. I have always felt that this needed to be there. It was one of my favorite scenes in the book. True, the digital Jabba didn't look that great and it totally needs improved but overall the scene worked for me. Even Han stepping on the tail. It's for the kids so I can live with it.

3. The added Falcon taking off from docking bay 94 and landing on Yavin IV. Both seemed to be executed very well and it did add a bit more demensin to those scenes but over all I think they were really not needed.

4. The X-Wings and Y-Wings taking off from Yavin IV. This I thought was a huge improvement over the original.

5. The removal of the cardboard people. However, being a nut for film errors I think this one is just hilarious.

6. The Biggs scene. Loved it, loved it, loved it.

Most of the other stuff, Ben's house, the sky, the Sandcrawler (which I didn't know about until I read it here), and Han and the Stormtroopers I really don't have any feelings one way or another.

Empire
1. The snow battle and removal of the transparent cockpit. Being able to see the battle through the snow speeders cockpuit clearly was a marvelous improvement.

2. The approach to Cloud City and the Cloud Car fly by. I liked these along the same lines as the Mos Eisley stuff.

3. The windows. However, they need to be a little more consistent. ONe minute they are there and the next they are gone. Let's make up our minds shall we?

The wampa thing isn't a like or a dislike. I can live with it but it really wasn't needed. Some of the other small changes I'll have to go back and compare the original to the SE to judge.

Jedi
1. The Bantha herd. I though this was neat and unexpected.

2. The end music but not the celebration scenes.

Most of the rest of the changes to Jedi I really didn't care for or they were in my opinon just not needed.

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