Info Wanted: ANH.....Revisited or Purist??? — Page 3

adywan said:

 All i said that i had already answered everything you needed. Then you come back with really rude remarks. I wasn't being funny or anything i just answered a question. You say you knew about what is going on in my life at the moment, yet you bombarded me with emails which all weren't about this thread at all, one was asking about my plans for boba fett in ROTJ:R.

You say you knew about my situation so i gather you read this in the ESB:R thread. So why be such an ass by saying that "my time must be too valuable" to answer your questions, when i already had? And then you wonder why i snapped back at you? A comment like that is one of the most insensitive things i have heard. Of course my time is too valuable. I'm having to take care of my 80 year old dad who has just found out he has cancer only 8 months after my mum died. I may have been a bit harsh with my reply and for that i apologize, but i'm with all the things that i'm having to juggle at the moment i'm getting about 3 hours sleep a night and then i read your reply and i just snapped.  I had helped you and told you what you needed to know but i guess that just wasn't enough for you.My retaliation was purely down to your smart alec comment, which now looks even worse since you did in fact know why i'm so busy at the moment when you wrote that.

muddyknees2000 said:

Apparently fans of your work can and should remain silent fans of your work. Now I know.

That's the biggest load of bull i have heard. I try to help out when i can when people have asked for it and also try and reply to every emails, PM and you should know that because of the amount of times you sent me messages over on youtube, and i answered them. I had never been rude towards you and my reply about the information was not a rude post and just a statement, but you took it completely the wrong way.

 Yes, you're right, I was a bit of a smart ass when responding to your answer, without thinking of everything you're going through at the moment. And yes, I've sent you a few PM's concerning different stuff (all of it because I was hoping to maybe help you out on this project) (specifically the boba fett question.....I happen to own a full boba fett costume, I work in film, have access to a RED camera and green screen stages)

As I said, I was still a little confused on a certain issue, and since I had perused the forums somewhat and seen that you seem to enjoy helping people out, I never thought twice about PMing you and asking you to clarify it for me. Apparently it was one PM too many and for that I apologize. I WILL point out however that my question would have taken 1/10 the time to answer as this entire exchange has taken and wasted alot less of your time. It was never my intent to be a pain in the ass, I was merely excited about your edit which I've only recently discovered (and star wars fan edits in general) (had no idea any of this existed). I'll not be bothering you again.

TV's Frink said:

And by the way, muddy, sending your sympathy does not then give you full go-ahead to bother or harass someone.

 It was in no way harassment....legitimate questions about his work. Pardon me for being enthusiastic.

ChainsawAsh said:

Sorry, Muddy.  I was considering it, but after all this B.S., I'm definitely not doing this for you.  You're on your own.

 LOL, yeah, expected this. Bloody sheep.....a completely unrelated disagreement between myself and Adywan which we are currently in the midst of working out and you're wanting to drop all ties to me. I didn't eat his first-born....we had an argument....get over yourself.

Psst! Hey, theres an edit button you know, some people might find triple-posts annoying

I think the triple posts are the least of his problems, lol.

ray_afraid said:

I think everyone should take a deep breath and calm down. So Muddy annoyed someone. Big Deal. He apologized even. It's not like he slashed our collective tires and put gum in our hair.

 LOL, its quite normal Ray....gang mentality. Adywan is the clear favorite (and for good reason) and has quite the cult following. I'm just the new guy, AND very unfamilliar with forums in general. Theres no way I'm gonna come out ahead, and thats to be expected.

I seem to remember someone else who worked in film, was less than sensitive and referred to the majority of us here as sheep.

I wonder how the Harry Potter films are coming along.

It's not gang or sheep mentality, muddy.  All I can do is weigh what I know of you and ady, and what I read in this thread.  What I've read is that you've been hassling adywan.  Perhaps that's not correct and if I've jumped to an incorrect conclusion I owe you an apology.  But that's not what I'm seeing so far.

Yeah, there has been a few demanding 'visitors' on this forum, but thankfully they were just visitors.

J

TV's Frink said:

It's not gang or sheep mentality, muddy.  All I can do is weigh what I know of you and ady, and what I read in this thread.  What I've read is that you've been hassling adywan.  Perhaps that's not correct and if I've jumped to an incorrect conclusion I owe you an apology.  But that's not what I'm seeing so far.

 Hassling and harassing imply that I was sending negatively worded messages his way, which is not the case. It definitely DOES seem like I sent him too many messages. And it WOULD seem that I have been over-enthusiastic in my attempted communication with Adywan, which some may view as another form of harassment, but that was in no way my intent or desire. My comments regardling gang mentality were addressed to those who feel the need to chime in and "hassle" me due to a disagreement that I am having with someone other than themselves.....much like the person in the street who goes and stands at the edge of a crowd watching a fight, starts egging the fighters on, and picks the one thats more popular or more likely to win as his/her favorite to cheer for and side with. I understand that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I dont think that people always need to "pick a side"

adywan said:

Well let's just wipe the slate clean and start again.

I think there should be a way of adding a new audio track and an edited video track and keep the menus and all the other stuff on the DVD-9. What version of the DVD-9 would you be working with ?The PAL or the NTSC?

 I agree, and once again, I apologize for flying off the handle. My initial response was made in haste.

It now depends on who will be helping me with this edit. I'll find out and get back to you.

I'm no sheep.  I just don't have time to help someone out who acts as entitled as you.  I'm currently swamped with class work - I'm cutting two feature-length documentaries, working as a post-production supervisor on a graduate thesis film, have 3 projects to online, and 5 treatments to develop into short screenplays, not to mention that a friend of mine's band is trying to get me to cut together a music video for them before I finish any of this stuff.

I was willing to help you out with this because it's something I've considered doing myself, and since you were being nice about everything I was willing to work some extra long nights to do this quickly.  Now that your true colors have shown through, I'm not doing it for you.

I may do it for myself, and if that happens I'll send you a PM, but I'm not going to overwork myself for you.  If I do it, it won't be until Christmas, and you probably won't hear about it until it's done.

Besides, if you really wanted to get this done, you could take the time to learn the software necessary to do it instead of trying to get someone else to do it for you.  Hell, if you work in film (as you claim), I don't see why you seem to think all this is beyond you.

adywan said:

would you be working with The PAL or the NTSC?

 NTSC

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

seeing Ady's version made me wonder if that was indeed the way it was originally, but during editing they found that by changing the order it made things more emotionally intense.

That's exactly what happened.  And I agree with you - the cut of the scene in the theatrical release was the superior cut.

Frankly, I wish Ady had kept the theatrical cut of the scene, and put the "original" cut (as it appears in Revisited) in the deleted scenes section.

*edit*

And I think the Purist version did restore the hut scene to its original cut, didn't it?

*re-edit*

Ah, Moth3r beat me to it.

Ok, been talking with Adywan, and it seems that the edit I have in mind is going to be exceedingly simple to acheive....problem is, I was hoping to be able to use the DVD menus and extras that he has created as well and he is of the opinion that this will be impossible. So in the spirit of opening up the floor to other ideas and opinions....is there anyone out there who might have an idea of how to maybe re-work or redo the menus and extras so that they fit on a new edit?

Basically the problem is the re-edit would have a different running time and therefore the chapter menus would no longer work.

The little bits of footage for all the menus exist on the DVD-9....is there anyone who could rework a new menu with the existing material?

Edit: PM from Adywan:

Just been chatting to someone i know and they said there may be a way to keep everything but you would need to accurately change the chapter timestamps in order to do it.

IFOedit could possibly do it; 

http://www.ifoedit.com/guides.html

J

With all this talk of 'The Purist' etc, is there anywhere I could find a copy (PAL) and 'Revisited' (PAL-DVD-9) as i only have the NTSC DVD-9......I might have a muck about with them.

J