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imperialscum said:

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TV’s Frink said:

What the heck is film zero?

Star Wars. It doesn’t have an episode number. I guess (null) would have been better.

Now that is a whole new level of hipster.

Yes, I’ve often considered them 10 different movies (now 11). SW, GOUT eps 4, 5, 6, SE eps 4, 5, 6, eps 1, 2, 3, 7. I think if I were doing a full marathon that I would watch SW (no episode number) first (Probably a GOUT upscale, but maybe the DE, but definitely the mono soundtrack) then, depending on my mood, probably go with 1 (I love Liam Neesen so I refuse to skip this one), 2, 3, SE 4, SE 5, SE 6, 7. I think the editorial changes to Ep 4 really change the story in fundamental ways whereas I don’t think the edits to TESB or ROTJ really change the story much. Now if I wanted to do a complete marathon, I would star with Star Wars (again mono soundtrack) and then the GOUT eps 4-6 (with the 1981 crawl for ANH and probably the 1985 stereo track) before moving on to PT, SET, and ST.

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BmB said:

Having done the George Lucas approved chronological, special edition marathon myself, I can safely say it does not work. The break between episodes III and IV is simply too jarring. You could also try and cut some out of the rotation because you think they suck, but you’ll inevitably miss large pieces of the story that way.

I think it’s important to recognize that Star Wars is the beginning, the opening shot, the 20-30 mins or so of exposition before anything even happens, the fact that it was originally made to be seen as a singular movie. And from there on realize that Episode I throws you right into the action and assumes you know exactly what a jedi, the force, a droid, and who Obi-Wan is and simply doesn’t work as an introduction to the universe. And from there on further realize that Episode III is the ending that brings everything full circle.

Realize on top of all this that they are indeed separate trilogies, made separately and telling two different stories. So you cannot really mix them up and get anything coherent either.

Only one order emerges from this: Release order. This is how they were made to be seen, each movie assuming only that you know what came before.

TFA doesn’t really fit in anywhere. It’s its own thing.

Iv gotta disagree. My favorite order and versions is below:

ANH:Revisted or Hal’s Custom SE
ESB: kk650 Semi Specilaized
TPM: Cloak of Deception (Hal9000)
AOTC: Approaching Storm (Hal9000)
ROTS: Labyrinth of Evil w/ L8wtr Ending
ROTJ: Remastered (my own edit)

Full Machete order

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the first one gives you better understanding of the story but the second one gives you better cinematic experience

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Don’t watch the theatrically released PT but get ur hands on like Hal’s or L8wtrs edits and you will appreciate the prequels. It turns Episode 1 Anakin from an annoying little accidental hero to a honest, young likable protagonist. Episode 2’s original stalker Anakin is now a shy yet kind and brave character. Then in episode 3 instead of whiny, arrogant Anakin we get a character who we have gotten to know and in the fanedit he now is a deeply conflicted and tragic character. So finally once Obi-Wan in raw anguish weeps at the lava bed whilst Anakin is burning you viscerally realize that buried under all the crappy dialogue and stupid fart jokes there is a trilogy worth appreciating.

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“I’ve seen through the lies of the OT.com members. I don’t fear the PT as you do”

(I’m even beginning to think TFA to be far worse than the PT. I’ll be sure within two weeks about that)

I totally agree that III to IV does not work. But, to be fair, IV to V is not that natural either (even with the SE). The same goes with I to II. GL made IV as a stand alone (we can feel there is a bigger story, that sequels could happen, but IV delivers something that is enjoyable on itself, with a clear beginning and ending); and EpI was made as a first chapter that would emulate a stand alone (strangely, before II was released the marathon order was I-IV-V-VI, and it worked better with the huge 32 years gap).

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Now that we have Ep7 (and soon Ep8 and Ep9) to continue the story, I have lost all reservations about recommending plain ol’ release order. Doesn’t even matter whether you’re a newcomer or veteran.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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MalàStrana said:

“I’ve seen through the lies of the OT.com members. I don’t fear the PT as you do”

Thank goodness someone realizes that you shouldn’t just say PT is all crap. I recently watched my least favorite Star Wars movie in its theatrical presentation (AOTC blu Ray) and I have to admit, it’s terrible but when fan editors take an amazing story and tell it in 2 decent movies and one fantastic one then I think they should be appreciated. Yes, in a marathon I never would watch theatrical PT but fan edited PT will always have a place in my own canon of when I watch a marathon.

(I’m even beginning to think TFA to be far worse than the PT. I’ll be sure within two weeks about that)

Not to this extent. I think ROTS (fan edited) is on par with TFA in MANY ways but not AOTC or TPM (even fan edited)

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Hal 9000 said:

Now that we have Ep7 (and soon Ep8 and Ep9) to continue the story, I have lost all reservations about recommending plain ol’ release order. Doesn’t even matter whether you’re a newcomer or veteran.

I’ll agree for new initiates, but for myself and the old hands I usually watch Star Wars with, I’ve got a different perspective. TFA has officially pushed the running time of the saga past the threshold of my same-day marathon endurance, so since I inevitably will need to split it up anyway, I think I’ll be starting with the PT in the future. Fire it up on its own day, make some drinks, reach for something greener if that’s your thing, and MST3K your way through the trilogy, then break for the night and watch the stuff everyone actually wants to see without interruption.

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You also can make a “one week marathon”, with one movie each evening (and a bunch of the best Clone Wars and Rebels episodes to fill some gaps).

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darthrush said:

I recently watched my least favorite Star Wars movie in its theatrical presentation (AOTC blu Ray)…

The BD isn’t its theatrical presentation. 😉

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I bet GL put that wipe in there just so he could say that the DVD of ROTS wasn’t the theatrical version.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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Was the wipe the only difference in the ROTS DVD? I thought there was something else, but my memory has a way of being blatantly wrong sometimes.

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Dek Rollins said:

Was the wipe the only difference in the ROTS DVD? I thought there was something else, but my memory has a way of being blatantly wrong sometimes.

Dialogues can be heard during the clones attack on Utapau.

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Proper marathon:

  1. SW
  2. ESB
  3. ROTJ
  4. TFA
  5. TFA
  6. SW
  7. ESB
  8. SW
  9. SW
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PT is not a crap story. PT is a very good story with crappy execution.

I will say that from a conceptual point of view, TPM has a better story than TFA. What makes TFA the better movie, however, is its execution. Better dialogue, natural humor, actual character development, attention to detail.

TPM could have been a fantastic movie by something as simple as rewriting the dialogue and putting less emphasis on the confusing trade dispute idea. The story concept is a very simple, good one to start off the saga. A peaceful planet is invaded and a band of heroes need to work together to free the queen’s people. Sounds very star warsy when you just hear that. It’s all in the execution.