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Harrison Ford in "Solo: A Star Wars Story" - Amazing deepfake

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i am both thoroughly impressed and absolutely hating the progression of this technology

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I’m amazed and terrified at how good this stuff is getting.

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Where were you in '77?

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Only a matter of time before video evidence is inadmissible in trials.

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Rodney-2187 said:

Only a matter of time before video evidence is inadmissible in trials.

One would have to have a lot of footage to deepfake a non famous person though?

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NFBisms said:

i am both thoroughly impressed and absolutely hating the progression of this technology

Yeah me too! Just had a big discussion on facebook who wrote:

"For Walt Disney, and companies like it, that own so much intellectual property that is built around the likenesses of human actors, in addition to animated characters, this kind of digital mask has the potential of extending the ability to keep much of this property alive even as the actors age or die.

“Solo” and “Mary Poppins Returns” both underperformed commercially, and I think one of the main reasons the two films did so is because the look of the characters is not consistent with the original visualizations.

Not every character can be a James Bond."

I can’t tell you how abhorrent this concept is to me, the idea that the artistry of great actors is reduced to someone doing their best impression of a much more talented person with some digital makeup.

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I think it boils down to whether an actor or their family/estate gives permission or not. Disney has rights to Mary Poppins, but they don’t own Julie Andrews’ face.

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I feel that using deepfakes is more in the way of filming of George Lucas than Disney: Lucas has always tried to do without “living” actors in his films, and to replace them with image banks or CGI-characters that he could assemble at will during the film editing (IIRC, he speaks frankly about this wish in the bonuses of AotC).

I believe that he would probably use these deepfakes extensively in his new films if he had kept the license of SW. And the result wouldn’t be as ugly as CGI-Leia and CGI-Tarkin, nor as rambling as using Carrie Fisher’s old takes in TRoS and trying to make a story around them.

It’s certainly both scary and revolutionary, but IMHO, that’s the direction cinema will take, as inevitably as the arrival of DV twenty years ago.

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Wow, that is pretty good. Imagine the hell this will play with politics and things like #metoo accusations.

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This is really good for the most part. Would watch this.

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ZigZig said:

I feel that using deepfakes is more in the way of filming of George Lucas than Disney: Lucas has always tried to do without “living” actors in his films, and to replace them with image banks or CGI-characters that he could assemble at will during the film editing (IIRC, he speaks frankly about this wish in the bonuses of AotC).

I believe that he would probably use these deepfakes extensively in his new films if he had kept the license of SW. And the result wouldn’t be as ugly as CGI-Leia and CGI-Tarkin, nor as rambling as using Carrie Fisher’s old takes in TRoS and trying to make a story around them.

This chimes with a quote from the late Mel Smith, director of ‘Radioland Murders’ and a well-loved member of the British comedy anti-establishment.

In a December 2010 interview with the Daily Mail, he is quoted as saying:

"George doesn’t understand comedy, so the movie [Radioland Murders] flopped. At least it taught me how to use CGI. George is obsessed with it and used too much in the last two Star Wars films — which I thought were ghastly.

“He’s been buying up the film rights to dead movie stars in the hope of using computer trickery to put them all together in a movie, so you’d have Orson Welles and Barbara Stanwyck appear alongside today’s stars.”

Lucasfilm denied this was the case afterwards, but it has stuck in my mind since I first read it.

“If it ain’t workin’, eat sugar.”