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Would it be a good idea to go that public with 4K77? I mean if it’s all good then rock on but… it could maybe bring some unwanted attention to the project? I don’t know, I may be overly worried.

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Omni said:

Would it be a good idea to go that public with 4K77? I mean if it’s all good then rock on but… it could maybe bring some unwanted attention to the project? I don’t know, I may be overly worried.

It would be a private employee showing if my manager thinks it worthy to do so. Nobody but the projection guy and him would know.

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night.
“Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.” - SilverWook
Feel the love.

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20 years ago today!

I feel old…

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My friend fells the same.

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night.
“Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.” - SilverWook
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I was Anakin’s age when the movie came out.
I’ve never seen a marketing blitz at the level of TPM since then.

Today I happened to drive past a Taco Bell/Pizza Hutt/KFC conglomerate that I ate at during that time. I remember the place overflowing with Star Wars stuff.

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I still have some of that fast food stuff in a cupboard somewhere. I was disappointed that the commercials with Col. Sanders, the Taco Bell dog and a Pizza Hut delivery person fighting on Naboo didn’t make any of the DVD/Blu Ray extras. They were fun!
https://youtu.be/VZvHIeMZG_g

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For me it’s pretty insane that it’s been 20 years, because this is probably the first big thing that I personally remember happening that is now 20 years old. Which yeah, I guess makes me feel old too.

Reflecting on TPM is weird for me, because it’s a film that I have an absolutely immense amount of nostalgia for, but it’s nostalgia that is ultimately trumped by my feelings for the saga as a whole, simply because TPM has never in my life been my favorite Star Wars (can’t remember if it ever got higher than 4th place honestly). So there’s a fondness for the film that is ultimately tempered by a lot of things.

At the end of the day, I think what’s most notable about TPM is that it is the only Star Wars film ever that is just pure, unfiltered George Lucas. With the OT there were a lot of factors that pushed the films away from the vision in his head and a lot of people refining what he wrote. With AOTC he was responding a bit to the criticism of TPM and also coming up with a lot of stuff on the fly and in post. And with ROTS he was playing catch up and providing some fan service. But TPM is really the only one where he had a lot of time to write all by himself (and a lot of freedom in the story due to its setting in the timeline), and then when it came to production there was basically nothing stopping him (technology or budget-wise) from getting exactly what he wanted. It’s definitely an interesting film to look at in that regard, but ultimately I think it’s clear to see the problems with that as well.

So yeah, my feelings are mixed. But ultimately I think it’s a fun anniversary and will probably try to watch the film sometime soon, because I honestly still enjoy it quite a bit.

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I’ll just happily remember TPM as the movie that got my dad to borrow Star Wars, Empire and Jedi on VHS from his friend. So I guess I first watched Star Wars about 20 years ago!

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Despite all its faults, I’ll always fondly remember TPM as my first SW movie.

The funny thing is that I only ended up watching the film because all of my friends at school was constantly talking about it and playing SW during recess. I had no idea what they were talking about so I felt quite left out. After finally seeing the film, and shortly after the OT as well, I quickly became the biggest SW fan in my class.

(It’s also really weird to think of TPM as being 20 years old, as I always used to think of the OT as being “20 years old”.)

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At the end of the day, I think what’s most notable about TPM is that it is the only Star Wars film ever that is just pure, unfiltered George Lucas. With the OT there were a lot of factors that pushed the films away from the vision in his head and a lot of people refining what he wrote. With AOTC he was responding a bit to the criticism of TPM and also coming up with a lot of stuff on the fly and in post. And with ROTS he was playing catch up and providing some fan service. But TPM is really the only one where he had a lot of time to write all by himself (and a lot of freedom in the story due to its setting in the timeline), and then when it came to production there was basically nothing stopping him (technology or budget-wise) from getting exactly what he wanted. It’s definitely an interesting film to look at in that regard, but ultimately I think it’s clear to see the problems with that as well.

I never thought of it that way, but you’re completely right. Have you read “The Star Wars”, the comic adaptation of Lucas’ first draft of the original film? It’s very TPM-like in many ways. It has complicated galactic politics, a Wookiee equivalent of the Ewok/Gungan battle at the end, very stiff and formal Jedi Knights, etc. Its’ interesting to think of what SW would have been if the first film, in the literal sense, would have been more like TPM.

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Man, I was ten years old when TPM came out. Wasn’t my first SW (I grew up with the early 90s VHS set my grandma owned, then the Faces VHS set when my parents bought it, then got to go see the SEs in theaters when I was 8), but I do have a lot of nostalgia for TPM as well. It’s definitely my favorite prequel by a long shot.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Despite all its faults, I’ll always fondly remember TPM as my first SW movie.

Wasn’t the first that I saw but I guess it was the first that I saw in theaters. Saw it twice (probably the first time I saw a movie more than once in theaters). The wait for the VHS killed me.

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DominicCobb said:

At the end of the day, I think what’s most notable about TPM is that it is the only Star Wars film ever that is just pure, unfiltered George Lucas. With the OT there were a lot of factors that pushed the films away from the vision in his head and a lot of people refining what he wrote. With AOTC he was responding a bit to the criticism of TPM and also coming up with a lot of stuff on the fly and in post. And with ROTS he was playing catch up and providing some fan service. But TPM is really the only one where he had a lot of time to write all by himself (and a lot of freedom in the story due to its setting in the timeline), and then when it came to production there was basically nothing stopping him (technology or budget-wise) from getting exactly what he wanted. It’s definitely an interesting film to look at in that regard, but ultimately I think it’s clear to see the problems with that as well.

I never thought of it that way, but you’re completely right. Have you read “The Star Wars”, the comic adaptation of Lucas’ first draft of the original film? It’s very TPM-like in many ways. It has complicated galactic politics, a Wookiee equivalent of the Ewok/Gungan battle at the end, very stiff and formal Jedi Knights, etc. Its’ interesting to think of what SW would have been if the first film, in the literal sense, would have been more like TPM.

Yeah I’ve read it! One of the reasons why I feel like TPM is George unfiltered. You can see how there’s a lot of things he wanted to do with the series since the beginning that he wasn’t able to until Episode I. It’s fascinating to think that that might have been his conception of SW all along and that he simply wasn’t able to accomplish with the OT - but so meanwhile everyone else in the world ends up a conception of SW that is based solely on what the finished product of the OT actually was, and they’re ultimately two fairly different things.

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Sounds like Ash, Dominic, and I are about the same age. Taco Bell will always be Tatooine to me. lol

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Here’s a slight improvement to the ‘energy binder’ scene. I think it’s a little better, and has one fewer fan-editor-induced reordering of shots.

https://vimeo.com/337597735
password: fanedit

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I was working at KFC when TPM released. I kept all the decor.
Gave it and all the rest of my Star Wars stuff to a friends son after RotS. (I had held hope that the PT would all come together at the end and we’d all see the brilliance of where Lucas was taking us. T’was not to be.)

Ray’s Lounge
Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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Hal 9000 said:

Sounds like Ash, Dominic, and I are about the same age. Taco Bell will always be Tatooine to me. lol

I think I’m a few years younger, but in the same ballpark. Hated Taco Bell when I was a kid but I do remember making my parents take me there so I could get this guy

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Does it play Walking on Sunshine? 😉

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Does anyone know where/when this painting of a spaceship that’s suspiciously similar to a Star Destroyer is from?

I found out that it’s by Alfred Kelsner, but I can’t tell when its from or what it was used for. It’d be interesting to know if it actually predates SW, or if it simply copied the design after the movies.

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The artist did a lot of covers for the German Perry Rhodan novels. It looks like creative swipes from iconic spaceships happened more than once in the series. Not sure if these are the same artist.


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SilverWook said:

The artist did a lot of covers for the German Perry Rhodan novels. It looks like creative swipes from iconic spaceships happened more than once in the series. Not sure if these are the same artist.

Thanks. For a moment there I was wondering if Lucas or ILM had “borrowed” the design from some random book cover.

However, it’s interesting that the artist choose to add domes to the ship (presumably to differentiate it somewhat) since the Interdictor Star Destroyers introduced in the EU in the 90’s more-or-less did the same thing.

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ZkinandBonez said:

SilverWook said:

The artist did a lot of covers for the German Perry Rhodan novels. It looks like creative swipes from iconic spaceships happened more than once in the series. Not sure if these are the same artist.

Thanks. For a moment there I was wondering if Lucas or ILM had “borrowed” the design from some obscure pulpy book cover.

However, it’s interesting that the artist choose to add domes to the ship (presumably to differentiate it somewhat) since the Interdictor Star Destroyers introduced in the EU in the 90’s more-or-less did the same thing.

It’s possible either way. Lucas borrowing the design for Chewie is well documented.

I know this guy from somewhere! 😉

And you don’t have to look too far into vintage science fiction illustrations to find giant round balls of Death.

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ZkinandBonez said:

SilverWook said:

The artist did a lot of covers for the German Perry Rhodan novels. It looks like creative swipes from iconic spaceships happened more than once in the series. Not sure if these are the same artist.

Thanks. For a moment there I was wondering if Lucas or ILM had “borrowed” the design from some random book cover.

However, it’s interesting that the artist choose to add domes to the ship (presumably to differentiate it somewhat) since the Interdictor Star Destroyers introduced in the EU in the 90’s more-or-less did the same thing.

There is a dome on the bottom of an ISD though. So, just move it up top and duplicate - you get that thing.

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Watching ESB on TNT while I’m at the gym, just thinking about how mad fans would get if the movie came out today at the scene where Luke falls off the gantry and gets swooped into the tunnel.

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DominicCobb said:

Watching ESB on TNT while I’m at the gym, just thinking about how mad fans would get if the movie came out today at the scene where Luke falls off the gantry and gets swooped into the tunnel.

Why?

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