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Someone should actually do a study on that. Have 1000 or so people from varying ages, ethnicities and backgrounds watch both versions and see which one they prefer. I think letting half of the test subjects watch the SE first while the other half watches the DE is the best way to go about it. I really can’t see anyone liking the SE after seeing the Despecialized Versions or even the 2006 DVD version of the OT.

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Fun fact, the first time I bought the trilogy on DVD was in 2006, and I unwittingly put on the bonus disc of ANH. Having not been following the controversy of the changes and being somewhat technologically inept, the next time I watched I put in the primary disk and immediately thought “what the hell, did these movies get updates through the internet or something!?”

Seeking only the most natural looking colors for Star Wars '77

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My little sister hated the 2006 OUT version of STAR WARS because the aspect ratio was absolutely terrible until I fixed it half way through. She said she wouldn’t even want to continue if I didn’t fix it. Add to the fact that we were watching it on on a 43" TV.

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I didn’t care but she kept bugging me so I gave in. I was 18 and 2 years into my borderline unhealthy obsession with Star Wars and I didn’t care how I got my fix. I watched ANH-R for the first time on my Ipod Touch.

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The first time I saw the OT as a kid (I was 7 years old and saw it with my uncle) I saw the 1997 SE. When I asked my mother if she’d get me my own VHS set so that I could watch them at home she went to a second-hand video-store and unknowingly bought the unaltered version. It surprised me a bit at first, seeing that my version was different, but I quickly ended up preferring the original version (even at that age). I would however watch the 2004 SE version once I upgraded to DVD, but I didn’t think of it as “better,” I would even watch my VHS version occasionally. Usually just on my own though, since my friends seemed to prefer the SE (though it being a DVD rather than VHS may have contributed to that.)

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Back in the 1980s we had the following:

  1. Official “lifetime rental” copy of the original Star Wars
  2. homemade VHS copy of Empire Strikes Back recorded off Showtime
  3. homemade VHS copy of Return of the Jedi w/ the last 5-10 minutes cut off

The picture quality of these copies was not good and deteriorated year after year, but I must have watched those tapes hundreds of times. Return of the Jedi was hard to see after a few years. Then Return of the Jedi came out on TV for the first time in 1989, and I remember being so excited because I could finally watch the entire movie all the way through the end.

By the 1990’s you could catch a random afternoon showing of any of the Star Wars films on cable. The FOX fanfare would start blaring when you flipped through the channels, and sometimes it would be another movie and you’d be disappointed, but often it would be Star Wars and you could stop everything you were doing and watch the movie for the next two or three hours. More popular were the weekend marathons, including one that I remember was hosted by Carrie Fisher, where the original Star Wars would play on Friday night, The Empire Strikes Back would play on Saturday night, and Return of the Jedi would conclude the trilogy on Sunday evening.

By those days, growing up through grade school and middle school, I was playing Star Wars on Nintendo and quoting Luke/Vader/Emperor dialogue back and forth with my Dad when I challenged him in some contest or game. I bought “The Faces” VHS box set in the mid-90s, the first thing I ever bought and owned on my own. Nothing brought me more joy than sliding those tapes out of their beautiful sleeves and popping them in the VCR, allowing me to toss out the faded bootleg cassettes I’d had previously, and replace them with (for the time) new and pristine tapes.

Ominously, they began with a message: “Own the Original Star Wars Trilogy: For the very last time”. That warning made no sense to us at the time. How could we have ever known?

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Luckily they couldn’t foresee this community.

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Alderaan said:

Back in the 1980s we had the following:

  1. Official “lifetime rental” copy of the original Star Wars
  2. homemade VHS copy of Empire Strikes Back recorded off Showtime
  3. homemade VHS copy of Return of the Jedi w/ the last 5-10 minutes cut off

The picture quality of these copies was not good and deteriorated year after year, but I must have watched those tapes hundreds of times. Return of the Jedi was hard to see after a few years. Then Return of the Jedi came out on TV for the first time in 1989, and I remember being so excited because I could finally watch the entire movie all the way through the end.

By the 1990’s you could catch a random afternoon showing of any of the Star Wars films on cable. The FOX fanfare would start blaring when you flipped through the channels, and sometimes it would be another movie and you’d be disappointed, but often it would be Star Wars and you could stop everything you were doing and watch the movie for the next two or three hours. More popular were the weekend marathons, including one that I remember was hosted by Carrie Fisher, where the original Star Wars would play on Friday night, The Empire Strikes Back would play on Saturday night, and Return of the Jedi would conclude the trilogy on Sunday evening.

By those days, growing up through grade school and middle school, I was playing Star Wars on Nintendo and quoting Luke/Vader/Emperor dialogue back and forth with my Dad when I challenged him in some contest or game. I bought “The Faces” VHS box set in the mid-90s, the first thing I ever bought and owned on my own. Nothing brought me more joy than sliding those tapes out of their beautiful sleeves and popping them in the VCR, allowing me to toss out the faded bootleg cassettes I’d had previously, and replace them with (for the time) new and pristine tapes.

Ominously, they began with a message: “Own the Original Star Wars Trilogy: For the very last time”. That warning made no sense to us at the time. How could we have ever known?

This is a good post.

I remember those random 90s showings and the “For the last time” campaign and everything. I can still recite the pre-special-features featurette that rolled before the Special Edition VHS tapes I got for Christmas one year.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

END OF LINE

(It hasn’t happened yet)

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Watched ROTJ despecialized today with my sister. She’s probably seen the BD version 2 or 3 times. She knew we were watching a different version, but she is not familiar with the specific changes and probably didn’t notice any of them except maybe Lapki Nek (how could you not?). But as the credits role she asks “wait, I never heard Vader say ‘nooooo.’” I told her it was a change, and she’s like, “that’s stupid.”

Goes to show what a stupid and, really, damaging change it was. A) she recognized its absence having only watched a couple times and not in a couple years. And B) not necessarily being a huge SW fan, instantly understood how awful that line is and how it degrades from the gravity of the moment.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Just goes to show: the whole point of the SEs was to make the films worse.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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If the first KOTOR ever got made into a movie, it would get criticized for being too much like A New Hope & Empire Strikes Back. If the second KOTOR got made into a movie, it would get criticized for not being Star Wars-y enough and boring.

The Rise of Failures

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And if “George R. Binks” ever got made into a movie, everyone would finally have a Gungan to empathize with.

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George R. Binks would be the key to everything, really.

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TavorX said:

If the first KOTOR ever got made into a movie, it would get criticized for being too much like A New Hope & Empire Strikes Back. If the second KOTOR got made into a movie, it would get criticized for not being Star Wars-y enough and boring.

So the obvious solution is to combine the two into one movie. That way it’s Star Wars-y, but still unique.

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Knights of the Old Republic would make for some great Star Wars films, if they could get talented people making them and take some chances. They could use in-universe world and come up with original material, without leaching off the OT.

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Got an unsightly facial scar on the right side of your face you just can’t be rid of?

Try immolating yourself alive!

You’ll see that scar disappear as if it were never originally intended to be there in the first place!

*WARNING: Self-immolation may lead to third degree burns to 80% of your body. Please consult your medical droid before throwing yourself onto hot molten lava.*

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I LOL’d.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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For George, because I know you’re listening:

Will you release those “experimental films”? Pretty please?

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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I never really thought about the fact that Tarkin knows who Darth Vader actually is and he probably knows that the entire galaxy is run by a Sith Lord.

The Jedi are all but extinct.......
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If Ric Olié became a Sith, would he start calling himself “Darth Obvious” or would he made “Ric” the new Sith title?

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Hardcore Legend said:

I never really thought about the fact that Tarkin knows who Darth Vader actually is and he probably knows that the entire galaxy is run by a Sith Lord.

“You, my friend, are all that’s left of their religion.”

He didn’t know about the Emperor in that respect.